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Title: Anyone have any coverage of the Ron Paul Freedom Rally in DC yesterday, April 15th?
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Published: Apr 16, 2008
Author: 4um
Post Date: 2008-04-16 06:48:20 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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Views: 639
Comments: 35

Maybe I missed it.

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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

I'd be shocked if more than a couple of hundred people showed up; if that.

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-04-16   6:56:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: who knows what evil (#1)

I'd be shocked if more than a couple of hundred people showed up; if that.

That lack of supporters can be laid at Pauls feet.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-16   7:54:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#4)

RP

Just think about it, had he stayed in the Revolution he claimed he was leading the O'philes would still be in deep cover.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-16   10:06:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

Like Perot, Paul left us holding an empty sack, with a hole in the bottom.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-16   10:11:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#9)

I wish the sack were empty Cyni, it's now full of horse excrement and it reeks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-16   10:15:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, Robin (#10)

I wish the sack were empty Cyni, it's now full of horse excrement and it reeks.

I am beginning to smell it now.

OK, I admit it, I was wrong about RP. Where's my generous helping of crow?

Critter  posted on  2008-04-16   10:39:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Critter (#13)

No one needs to eat crow critter.

Something instigated the infamous Trotsky memo. Most likely we will never know.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-16   10:40:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#15)

Something instigated the infamous Trotsky memo. Most likely we will never know.

Marxist right? Obama is a marxist too. So, getting obama would be like getting Ron Paul.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-16   10:46:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Peppa (#17)

Marxist right? Obama is a marxist too. So, getting obama would be like getting Ron Paul.

Difficult to tell as many people have doubt as to who wrote the memo.

Knowing the author as a positive would help.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-16   10:49:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#18)

Difficult to tell as many people have doubt as to who wrote the memo.

Knowing the author as a positive would help.

Well, the accusation is enough to convince me.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-16   10:54:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Peppa (#19)

Perhaps Paul had help in deciding to take a dive and the people were good enough to help draft a memo.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-16   10:56:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#20)

You know Cyni, with all the non-stop slamming of Ron Paul, it really makes sense that you're just a shill. The thought that you never gave a penny to his campaign makes a lot of sense.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-04-16   11:07:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Pinguinite, Cynicom (#22)

You know Cyni, with all the non-stop slamming of Ron Paul, it really makes sense that you're just a shill. The thought that you never gave a penny to his campaign makes a lot of sense.

In Cyni's defense, I was a huge Ron Paul supporter myself, until I saw a total lack of effort on his part to carry on the campaign. I'm still getting emails from McCain, whose campaign I never once contacted, yet I've received nothing at all from Ron Paul since January or so. I've signed up both with his website and with the local meetup groups, and there's been nothing, zip, nada, zilch in terms of any updates or plans of action from either him or his campaign.

I do think people here are right, in that he was either "given an offer he couldn't refuse", or outright gave up.

I appreciate your strong respect and admiration for the man, but something isn't quite right with the situation, and I don't think it's a sign of being a shill in bringing it up...

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-04-16   15:59:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: FormerLurker, Pinguinite, Jethro Tull, Peppa, FOH, Christine, critter, buckeye, All (#24)

You know Cyni, with all the non-stop slamming of Ron Paul, it really makes sense that you're just a shill. The thought that you never gave a penny to his campaign makes a lot of sense.

In Cyni's defense, I was a huge Ron Paul supporter myself, until I saw a total lack of effort on his part to carry on the campaign.

All...

This was something that Christine and I kept to ourselves, but to clarify any distortions being spread I will say this...

Christine and I collaborated on the Ron Paul effort for 4um. Only the two of us, at my instigation.

I underwrote the entire cost of the intended ad at a cost of nearly $2000, knowing full well the members of 4um would never come up with that amount of money. The talkers and non doers indeed were silent, they know who they are.

I admonished Christine at the time that this effort would indeed show those members that were Americans, and those that were not friends at all, rather they were in hiding, not distressed with our government, but rather just partisans waiting to use 4um.

As a result, I ate several hundred dollars of the cost, which would have been much more had it not been for two Americans that stepped forward to help shoulder the burden. Beyond that was my regular contributions to Paul, so that we might at least have a choice, even though winning was never a possibility.

Only Christine knows the people that contributed and the amounts, the number of contributors vs the talkers on 4um was a sad but true indication between Americans and partisan believers.

When Paul took a dive, and suddenly became a devout republican, only the naive and gullible would have kept sending money. For those that have not done their own research, Paul had done this once before, due to pressure from Pat Buchanan, leaving his supporters in the lurch. It is all on the record for those that care to look.

Nearly a year ago I warned Christine that with passing months, many of our friends would out themselves as partisan believers, not as friends looking for a better government. With that in mind I compiled a list of those that would reveal themselves, that list proved to be 100 per cent correct, except I overlooked three "friends" that have since showed their true colors.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-17   11:17:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#29)

I underwrote the entire cost

Hmm.. shilling for Ron Paul were you? ;)

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-17   12:12:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Peppa (#30)

Hmm.. shilling for Ron Paul were you? ;)

Twenty million "Americans voted for Perot", knowing he could not win but we had a choice.

The other 80 million did their duty and voted for party.

They are well programmed.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-17   12:29:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#31)

Twenty million "Americans voted for Perot", knowing he could not win but we had a choice.

The other 80 million did their duty and voted for party.

They are well programmed.

Indeed.

The country needs an exorcism or something.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-17   12:38:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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