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Title: Gravel on Carter vs. AIPAC
Source: Third Party Watch
URL Source: http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/04/14/gravel-on-carter-vs-aipac/
Published: Apr 14, 2008
Author: Mike Gravel for President 2008 campaign
Post Date: 2008-04-16 21:24:16 by Dakmar
Keywords: None
Views: 177
Comments: 12

Last week, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and almost everyone else in the Washington establishment including the State Department have condemned and criticized Jimmy Carter for his latest attempt to make the world a safer place. Far from deserving all the cheap shots, Jimmy Carter should be praised for meeting with Khaled Meshal, the leader of Hamas.

When will we Americans learn that the only way to achieve true security is through diplomacy and negotiation? A majority of the Israeli public understands this. According to a March 1, 2008 poll by the leading Israeli newspaper – Haaretz – 64 percent of Israelis favor direct talks with Hamas. Only 28 percent were opposed. The Israeli people have suffered decades of war and terrorism. They know that the only way to break the cycle of violence is a negotiated settlement. Jimmy Carter’s brave gambit to meet with Hamas and jump-start the peace process is not “anti-Israel.” It is in Israel’s interests and the Israeli people know it.

Who besides Jimmy Carter can keep the Middle East peace effort alive while our lame duck president plays out his remaining days? Should we just hope that warring parties in the Middle East patiently wait until a new president takes over next year? And why should they be patient? The Democratic Party’s candidates seem to share the same obstinate, ill-informed views as George Bush and John McCain.

Carter’s critics don’t know much about Israel’s real security situation- nor do they really care about it. All they want to do is please AIPAC and hawkish members of the American Jewish community who don’t have to live under the daily threat of terrorism. Ever notice how people who don’t have to fight in wars tend to be the most fervent war hawks?

The United States must make every effort to ensure the safety of Israel and its citizens. Without a secure Israel, there will be no peace in the Middle East. The question is how to achieve that security. On this question I will always side with the majority of the Israeli people rather than a powerful American lobbying group.

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#1. To: Dakmar (#0)

The right wing Likudnicks do not want peace. They view continuing war, with the goy doing most of the dying, and the US paying through the nose, as the means to obtain their "promised Land" which is all the land between the Nile and Euphrates rivers.

And NUTS in the US are going for it to bring about the apocolypse and the return of Jesus and the hell fires of the world.

Peace be with you.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-04-16   21:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Dakmar (#0) (Edited)

When will we Americans learn that the only way to achieve true security is through diplomacy and negotiation?

The answer my friend, is blowin' in the wind.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-16   21:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Dakmar (#0)

I will always side with the majority of the Israeli people rather than a powerful American lobbying group

he opens up a whole new point of view I hadn't considered. The Israeli people themselves I do not think favor the oppression of the Palestinians nearly the way the Israeli government does. I have read of polls in the past showing a big difference between Israeli people & Israeli government. But I know that they are under the influence of the propaganda they are given. They do have a lot of racism and hate in them for the palestinians. Still, they want peace and coexistence. Their government is the one with the agenda, and they are being dragged along - just like us!

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-04-16   21:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: MUDDOG (#2)

For you and all the other peaceniks out there -

Lod  posted on  2008-04-16   22:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Dakmar, *US is Proxy State For Israel* (#0)

Carter’s critics don’t know much about Israel’s real security situation- nor do they really care about it. All they want to do is please AIPAC and hawkish members of the American Jewish community who don’t have to live under the daily threat of terrorism. Ever notice how people who don’t have to fight in wars tend to be the most fervent war hawks?

especially for Isael

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-17   11:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lodwick (#4)

For you and all the other peaceniks out there -

Also a beatnik. WORK!?!


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-17   21:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: MUDDOG (#6)

WORK!?!

Yes, work; and invest wisely.

Try it sometime.

While you still can, if you can..

I hope that you can.

Lod  posted on  2008-04-17   21:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lodwick (#7)

Try it sometime.

Otherwise you'll end up stranded on a desert island (after Dobie Gillis was cancelled).


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-17   21:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Dakmar (#0)

The United States must make every effort to ensure the safety of Israel and its citizens. Without a secure Israel, there will be no peace in the Middle East.

This is pure BS.

This is correct....

" With an Israel, there will be no peace in the Middle East"

The last things the Zionists want is peace..

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-17   21:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#9)

Manifest Destiny and Israel

By URI AVNERY
Apri1 15, 2008

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-04-17   22:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: MUDDOG (#8)

Otherwise you'll end up stranded on a desert island (after Dobie Gillis was can celled).

Without a hope, prayer, or a paddle.

Agree.

Lod  posted on  2008-04-17   22:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: lodwick (#4)

--

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Obama for president 2008

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-04-17   22:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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