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Title: Feds to collect DNA from every person they arrest
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080416/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/dna_co
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Published: Apr 17, 2008
Author: EILEEN SULLIVAN
Post Date: 2008-04-17 06:41:05 by PSUSA
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WASHINGTON - The government plans to begin collecting DNA samples from anyone arrested by a federal law enforcement agency — a move intended to prevent violent crime but which also is raising concerns about the privacy of innocent people.

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Using authority granted by Congress, the government also plans to collect DNA samples from foreigners who are detained, whether they have been charged or not. The DNA would be collected through a cheek swab, Justice Department spokesman Erik Ablin said Wednesday. That would be a departure from current practice, which limits DNA collection to convicted felons.

Expanding the DNA database, known as CODIS, raises civil liberties questions about the potential for misuse of such personal information, such as family ties and genetic conditions.

Ablin said the DNA collection would be subject to the same privacy laws applied to current DNA sampling. That means none of it would be used for identifying genetic traits, diseases or disorders.

Congress gave the Justice Department the authority to expand DNA collection in two different laws passed in 2005 and 2006.

There are dozens of federal law enforcement agencies, ranging from the FBI to the Library of Congress Police. The federal government estimates it makes about 140,000 arrests each year.

Justice officials estimate the new collecting requirements would add DNA from an additional 1.2 million people to the database each year.

Those who support the expanded collection believe that DNA sampling could get violent criminals off the streets and prevent them from committing more crimes.

A Chicago study in 2005 found that 53 murders and rapes could have been prevented if a DNA sample had been collected upon arrest.

"Many innocent lives could have been saved had the government began this kind of DNA sampling in the 1990s when the technology to do so first became available," Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., said. Kyl sponsored the 2005 law that gave the Justice Department this authority.

Thirteen states have similar laws: Alaska, Arizona, California, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Minnesota, New Mexico, North Dakota, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia.

The new regulation would mean that the federal government could store DNA samples of people who are not guilty of any crime, said Jesselyn McCurdy, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union.

"Now innocent people's DNA will be put into this huge CODIS database, and it will be very difficult for them to get it out if they are not charged or convicted of a crime," McCurdy said.

If a person is arrested but not convicted, he or she can ask the Justice Department to destroy the sample.

The Homeland Security Department — the federal agency charged with policing immigration — supports the new rule.

"DNA is a proven law-enforcement tool," DHS spokesman Russ Knocke said.

The rule would not allow for DNA samples to be collected from immigrants who are legally in the United States or those being processed for admission, unless the person was arrested.

The proposed rule is being published in the Federal Register. That will be followed by a 30-day comment period.


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"If a person is arrested but not convicted, he or she can ask the Justice Department to destroy the sample." Uh huh. I am sure they will. Subscribe to *Jack-Booted Thugs*

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#1. To: PSUSA (#0)

The rule would not allow for DNA samples to be collected from immigrants who are legally in the United States or those being processed for admission, unless the person was arrested.

OF COURSE NOT!!! IT WAS AMERICANS WHO WERE DECLARED ENEMIES OF THE STATE SINCE 1933

The proposed rule is being published in the Federal Register. That will be followed by a 30-day comment period.

"....The nature of the conspiracy to defraud can be best understood in comments by one of the major conspirators in the triumph of establishing the Federal Reserve, "Colonel" Edward Mandell House, who said this in a private meeting with President Woodrow Wilson: "[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will effect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions".

"Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, forever to remain economic slaves through taxation, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges. This will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud which we will call `Social Insurance.' Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we may incur and in this manner, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America."

YOU ARE ALL SLAVES

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www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/0025 National “DNA warehouse” bill passes -- Passing the House of Representatives on a voice vote, S. 1858 has been sent to President Bush for signature. The Newborn Genetic Screening bill was passed by the Senate last December. The bill violates the U.S. Constitution and the Nuremberg Code, writes Twila Brase, president of the Citizen’s Council on Health Care (CCHC).

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President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-17   11:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, all (#1)

OF COURSE NOT!!! IT WAS AMERICANS WHO WERE DECLARED ENEMIES OF THE STATE SINCE 1933

If we are enemies of the state, may as well act like it.

"By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will effect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions". "

I don't put much trust in this kind of quote, but if it is true, and it is starting to look like it is, then I can see the day that the economy crashes and somehow all debts will be forgiven, if a person "registers". Everyone that "registers" starts out again with a blank slate. The personal debts are after all nothing but Monopoly Money, so they lose nothing, and gain everything.

------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------

PSUSA  posted on  2008-04-17   11:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA, *Treasonous Neocon Alert* (#0)

Feds to collect DNA from every person they arrest

Justice officials estimate the new collecting requirements would add DNA from an additional 1.2 million people to the database each year.

At some point Americans will find a way to collect the DNA of the thugs who come up with these invasions of our liberties.

Call your congressmen. This probably wasn't his idea but he may support it w/o hearing from us. I smell Comrade Chertoff behind this proposal. You should see what he's trying to do with RealID.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-17   11:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PSUSA (#0)

The federal government estimates it makes about 140,000 arrests each year.

Justice officials estimate the new collecting requirements would add DNA from an additional 1.2 million people to the database each year.

These numbers are confusing. The estimated 140k arrested each year will add 1.2 million to the database each year?

These must be voodoo dna samplings.

firing line  posted on  2008-04-17   12:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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