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Title: Quiz Time: (Hypothetical Question)
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Published: Apr 17, 2008
Author: Neil McIver
Post Date: 2008-04-17 21:33:40 by Pinguinite
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Comments: 73

Okay, 4umers, quiz time.

I've got a hypothetical question for you. Suppose you were in a funny situation where you had the opportunity to reconstitute the 2nd Amendment, doing away with all 20,000 or so gun laws. The power was in your hands to make it so.

But there's one catch. In order to make this wish come true, you first had to pick up a gun, put it to the head of an innocent 7 year old girl, and pull the trigger, blowing her brains out. With that task completed, the 2nd Amendment would be restored all across America.

Would you do it? If your answer is "yes" then this quiz is over for you. You may resume your perusing of 4um and disregard the rest of the test.

If your answer is no, then we'll expand our hypothetical scenario.

After you refuse to kill this girl, someone else steps up and says "I am also interested in restoring the 2nd Amendment, and I am willing to do what must be done for you. If I am elected president, I will shoot this girl and then the 2nd Amendment will be restored".

Question: Do you vote for this man or not?

It would seem that some people here on 4um would happily endorse the death of this girl one way or another in order to restore 2nd Amendment rights. I am not one of those people, which is why a couple days ago I wrote the following:

For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book.

This apparently earned me the label of "gun grabber" in the minds of a few here.

I honestly don't know why. Honestly. Does the phrase "expense of lives of innocents" mean something other than "murder" to people here?

I really feel like I've entered the twilight zone. You know, where the whole world changes but you don't. In this case, it's like learning suddenly that a bunch of 4umers would indeed blow the brains of of a little girl if it helped to secure some of their own "liberties". I am really amazed that a number of people here take exception to my statement.

As this hypothetical scenario applies to the real world, if there was a pres candidate promising to work to fully restore the 2nd Amendment in the USA while simultaneously promising to bomb the rest of the world into oblivion, I could not in good conscious vote for him. Call me crazy or call me a gun grabber if you want, but if not being willing to kill this way makes me a gun grabber, then I hope I'm a gun grabber for life. But I would not, could not support such a "pro 2nd Amendment" candidate. Never.

If I am truly in the minority on this point on 4um, then perhaps I should resign my account and leave you all.

Thank you for reading.

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#9. To: Pinguinite (#0)

I would not shoot her, nor would I vote for someone to do it by proxy.

An honorable man who feels strongly that an idea is more valuable then a human life should affirm that upon receiving that offer.

But then should demure from killing another saying, "Sorry, she is innocent, and that is God's purview to do or not, not mine. I am helpless to fulfill your proposal, as you speak of me doing what is ethically not for me to do."

You must obey the sixth commandment if you are of the religion that accepts the Ten Commandments. It says in modern English, "You will NOT murder." You may slay in battle an antagonist and not sin, but as for killing an innocent for any reason, never.

Once you violate ethical behavior on that level, your reputation has lost it's standing in the community. You might as well be dead as she would be if you chose to kill her. How can one justify giving their very soul in any transaction?

An ethical man with that choice would demure and instead offer his life as a trade to save the Second Amendment instead of her if it meant more then life to him. It is the only honorable thing to do in that situation.

Never try to commit the theft of God's purview. You are right in your choice.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-04-17   21:58:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ferret Mike (#9)

An ethical man with that choice would demure and instead offer his life as a trade to save the Second Amendment instead of her if it meant more then life to him. It is the only honorable thing to do in that situation.

An interesting point. Thanks Ferret.

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