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Title: Quiz Time: (Hypothetical Question)
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Published: Apr 17, 2008
Author: Neil McIver
Post Date: 2008-04-17 21:33:40 by Pinguinite
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Views: 2858
Comments: 73

Okay, 4umers, quiz time.

I've got a hypothetical question for you. Suppose you were in a funny situation where you had the opportunity to reconstitute the 2nd Amendment, doing away with all 20,000 or so gun laws. The power was in your hands to make it so.

But there's one catch. In order to make this wish come true, you first had to pick up a gun, put it to the head of an innocent 7 year old girl, and pull the trigger, blowing her brains out. With that task completed, the 2nd Amendment would be restored all across America.

Would you do it? If your answer is "yes" then this quiz is over for you. You may resume your perusing of 4um and disregard the rest of the test.

If your answer is no, then we'll expand our hypothetical scenario.

After you refuse to kill this girl, someone else steps up and says "I am also interested in restoring the 2nd Amendment, and I am willing to do what must be done for you. If I am elected president, I will shoot this girl and then the 2nd Amendment will be restored".

Question: Do you vote for this man or not?

It would seem that some people here on 4um would happily endorse the death of this girl one way or another in order to restore 2nd Amendment rights. I am not one of those people, which is why a couple days ago I wrote the following:

For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book.

This apparently earned me the label of "gun grabber" in the minds of a few here.

I honestly don't know why. Honestly. Does the phrase "expense of lives of innocents" mean something other than "murder" to people here?

I really feel like I've entered the twilight zone. You know, where the whole world changes but you don't. In this case, it's like learning suddenly that a bunch of 4umers would indeed blow the brains of of a little girl if it helped to secure some of their own "liberties". I am really amazed that a number of people here take exception to my statement.

As this hypothetical scenario applies to the real world, if there was a pres candidate promising to work to fully restore the 2nd Amendment in the USA while simultaneously promising to bomb the rest of the world into oblivion, I could not in good conscious vote for him. Call me crazy or call me a gun grabber if you want, but if not being willing to kill this way makes me a gun grabber, then I hope I'm a gun grabber for life. But I would not, could not support such a "pro 2nd Amendment" candidate. Never.

If I am truly in the minority on this point on 4um, then perhaps I should resign my account and leave you all.

Thank you for reading.

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#39. To: Pinguinite, all (#0)

That has got to be the dumbest "hypothetical question" I have ever seen. NO ONE would blow out the brains of a little girl FOR ANY REASON! WTF???

It is a dangerous world. Getting rid of firearms will not make it safer, it will make it more dangerous.

But I dont think you should leave just because you disagree with some, or some disagree with you.

You have the right to your beliefs, same as I do. But if you come for my firearms, bring a lunch, and get your casket ready.

PSUSA  posted on  2008-04-18   6:13:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: PSUSA, IndieTX, Pinguinite (#39)

[IndieTX #35] I'd protect the child, then turn the gun on the ahole who provided me with that choice, assuming he was standing next to me..

[PSUSA #39] That has got to be the dumbest "hypothetical question" I have ever seen.

Original credit for the concept of the hypothetical would seem to go to Dostoyevsky.

"Imagine that you are creating a fabric of human destiny with the object of making men happy in the end, giving them peace and rest at last, but that it was essential and inevitable to torture to death only one tiny creature - that baby beating its breast with its fist, for instance - and to found that edifice on its unavenged tears, would you consent to be the architect on those conditions? Tell me, and tell the truth?"
-- Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Brothers Karamazov

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-04-19   1:03:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#70. To: nolu_chan (#69)

[IndieTX #35] I'd protect the child, then turn the gun on the ahole who provided me with that choice, assuming he was standing next to me

Were you agreeing with my decision or panning it? LOL.

IndieTX  posted on  2008-04-19 03:10:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: nolu_chan (#69)

"Imagine that you are creating a fabric of human destiny ...

My imagination is not that twisted.

I would do everything in my power to kill the person that made torture a condition for "paradise" for the average person. Who the hell is that person to make that demand in the first place?

Homer, by authorizing torture, is making a "paradise" for his cronies, not us. Homer doesnt give a tinkers damn about us.

So hopefully, that difference will save me from a visit by men in suits that have no sense of humor.

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