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US Government, Talmud Mock New Testament By Rev. Ted Pike 4-17-8 The U.S. State Dept.'s Office of Global Anti-Semitism now says the New Testament is a book of conspiracy theory! Yes, our government now rules that the Biblical record that Jews had Christ crucified is not only anti-Semitic; it's conspiracy junk. This step toward criminalization of Christian beliefs directly threatens believers. It is also an act of blatant hypocrisy: While the New Testament is derided as "hate speech," not a word is said about the seething hatred contained in Judaism's most sacred book, the Talmud. The State Department reports, "The tactics of many anti-Semitic groups include the propagation of conspiracy theories Traditional conspiracy theories" include the belief "that the Jews are responsible for the death of Christ." 1 For tens of millions, the New Testament is anything but conspiracy theory! It's the written Word of God. But now our State Department says the New Testament account of Christ's passion, culminating in rejection by the Jewish people and crucifixion by the Romans, is akin to the other conspiracy theories that inspired Hitler to attempt to destroy Jews. My previous article, "Bible is Hate, Says U.S. Government," documents the State Department's other charge: that the New Testament espouses "classic anti-Semitism." 2 Hitler is rightly considered a classic anti-Semite. But the State Department, in also labelling the New Testament "classic anti-Semitism," suggests it is morally and intellectually similar to Nazism. This implies the New Testament could lead to yet another Holocaust! This premise, legislated into "anti-hate" laws, will justify persecution of Bible-believers as "anti-Semites." After all, it will be reasoned, people with hateful ideologies, leading to violence against Jews should be restricted, even imprisoned. Talmud Tells Us Who Killed Christ Abraham H. Foxman, head of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League, couldn't agree more with the State Department. His organization is the prime mover behind hate laws worldwide and the Office of Global Anti-Semitism. Foxman asserts that Jews of Jesus' time were innocent of the crucifixion; it was entirely the work of Romans. Foxman says New Testament writers concocted the vicious anti-Semitic lie that Jewish leaders and people goaded Pilate to condemn Christ. He says this falsehood - that Jews are "Christ killers"-fanned into flame nearly two millennia of anti-Semitism and led to the Holocaust. He also says it creates "new anti-Semitism" which he warns is rapidly escalating worldwide. 3 ADL's "anti-hate" laws have already been used in dozens of western nations to infringe on the freedom of Christians. Foxman, as an Orthodox Jew, knows plenty about another book whose vitriol is far darker than that of the Bible. The highest religious and ethical authority of modern Judaism, the Babylonian Talmud, states that Jewish leaders did have Christ condemned to death. In fact, the Talmud says they did it entirely without the Romans' help! Jewish authorities killed Christ not by crucifixion (illegal in Jewish law) but by the legal methods prescribed by Talmudic law. The Talmud says: On Passover Eve, they hanged Jesus of Nazareth. And the herald went before him forty days, and proclaimed 'Jesus of Nazareth is going out to be stoned because he practiced sorcery, incited and led Israel astray. Whoever knows of an argument that may be proposed in his favor should come present that argument on his behalf.' But the judges did not find an argument in his favor, and so they hanged him on Passover Eve. 4 The Talmud describes torture inflicted on Jesus before His death. "All four legal methods of execution stoning, burning, decapitation and strangling were employed". 5 The Talmud elaborates on "burning." It involved Jesus being: "lowered in dung up to his armpits, then a hard cloth was placed within a soft one, wound around his neck and the two ends pulled in opposite directions until he was dead, forcing him to open his mouth. A wick was then lit, and thrown into his mouth, so that it descended into his body, burning his bowels." 6 Jesus, says the Talmud, was excommunicated for the thought of seducing a woman. In His ensuing grief and confusion, He fell down and worshipped a brick. 7 The Talmud says Jesus "was a fool and we do not pay attention to what fools do." 8 According to the Talmud, Jesus is now in hell, writhing in eternal agony. The Talmud asks: "'What is your punishment?' He replied, 'With boiling hot semen'" 9 The Talmud defends the Jewish rulers who it says righteously executed four of Christ's disciples: Matthew, Luke, Nicodemus, and Thaddaeus. 10 It considers His followers to be worshippers of a false prophet and worthy of death. References in the Talmud to Christ and Christians are often veiled by terms not understood by Christian censors in previous centuries. Two of the most common are "Minim" and "Minith." The footnote to the Talmud in Abodah Zarah 16b (pg. 84) says that "Minith" refers to "heresy with special reference to Christianity." Brotherly love did not extend to the Minim: Christians may be legally thrown into a pit to die. As Abodah Zarah 26b says: "'idolaters and [Jewish] Shepherds of small cattle need not be brought up, though they must not be cast in, but Minim, informers, and apostates may be cast in and need not be brought up.'" In Shabbethai 116, Rabbi Tarbon says, "The writings of the Minim [New Testament] deserve to be burned, even though the holy name of God occurs therein, for paganism is less dangerous than Minith [Christianity]" According to the Talmud "Those who deny the Torah and the prophets of Israel [giving loyalty to the "false prophet" Jesus and the New Testament], the law is that they should be killed and those who have the power of life and death should have them killed. And if this cannot be done, they should be led to their death by deceptive methods. 11 Christians: Keep Out! Concerning Gentile Christians who presume to make use of the Jewish Sabbath, The Jewish Encyclopedia tells us, "Resh Lakishsaid, 'A Gentile observing the Sabbath deserves death' (Sanh. 58b)." This article says, "The Sabbath is a sign between God and Israel alone" and the Talmud's death sentence "was probably directed against the Christian Jews" 12 Sanh. 59a says, "A heathen who studies the Torah [Old Testament] deserves death, for it is written, Moses commanded us a law for an inheritance; it is our inheritance not theirs." Christianity is vividly described in the Talmud as worse than even the most wicked behavior of a Jew. A.Z. 17a says: "Rabbi Eleazar B. Dordia did not leave out any harlot in the world without coming to her" yet attained forgiveness because he had not committed the unforgivable sin of accepting Christianity. Likewise, incest is a "light sin" compared to faith in Jesus. The Talmud tells us "Minuth," along with the Roman government, are the two daughters of hell. One seduces Jews to idolatry; the other keeps them politically bound. Does the Talmud teach the same "tolerance" and "respect for diversity" which Foxman demands from Christians toward Jews, homosexuals, abortionists, and pornographers? Listen to how the Talmud instructs Jews to respond to the death of a Jew who has become a Christian: At the death of one who had severed all ties with his people no rites whatever should be observed. His brothers and relatives should dress in white and cloak themselves in white. They should eat, drink and be merry, for an enemy of God has perished. As it is written, 'Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate Thee? And do not I strive with those that rise up against Thee? I hate them with utmost hatred; I count them my enemies.' (Psalms 139:21-4)" 13 Is this "hate?" Absolutely! It's hard to imagine greater hate than the Talmud teaches against Christ and Christians. Jewish "civil liberties" groups such as ADL, ACLU, Southern Poverty Law Center, and People for the American Way set themselves up as lawgivers to the world. They propose to end "hate, intolerance, prejudice, and bias." Yet, the greatest religious and ethical authority for modern observant Judaism, the Talmud (which far exceeds the authority of the Old Testament for religious Jews) 14, cannot be surpassed in its hate, intolerance, prejudice, and bias against Christians. Chief among Jewish ethical pontificators is Abe Foxman, a devout Orthodox, Talmud-quoting Jew, who says he earnestly awaits the coming of Israel's "messiah." This, of course, is not Jesus but Antichrist. 15 "Christophobia" With this in mind we can understand why Jewish activist groups exhibit such a loathing of Jesus and His name in public schools, government and the military and why they tirelessly labor to remove all symbols having to do with Him, especially at Christmas and Easter. Jewish activists accuse evangelicals of "homophobia," preaching hate against homosexuals. Actually, out of love, Christians warn sodomites that, unless they repent, their sexual perversion will land them in hell forever. In contrast, Jewish activists are consummate "Christophobes," opposing Christ and His followers -- not out of love but from a morbid obsession to remove all memory of what their forefathers did, screaming, "Crucify Him! Crucify Him! His blood be upon us and our children!" Like Lady Macbeth, who washed her murderous hands incessantly, muttering, "Out, out, damned spot!" the descendants of those who had Christ killed attempt to wash away their guilt with lies. There's only One, however, who can wash away anyone's sins. Scripture repeatedly promises He will come again and "they shall look upon Me whom they have pierced and they shall mourn" 16 He who makes the vilest sinners clean will put "a heart of flesh" in Israel, wherein now resides "a heart of stone" against Him. At last God will remove the obsession to defame Him out of Israel. The saga of Christ's dealings with the Jews is thus one of radical extremes: vitriolic hate, as Talmudic Jewry strives to prevent His appearance, and astonishing love, as Christ eventually proves His power to save a whole nation of repentant Jews. Someday all the earth will gasp in amazement saying, "Who is a God like unto Thee, that pardoneth iniquity and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of His heritage?" 17 Endnotes: 1. See, Contemporary Global Anti-Semitism: A Report Provided to the United States Congress, p. 31. 2. See, Bible is Hate, says U.S. Government. 3. See, ADL's Foxman: New Testament is Anti-Semitic. 4. The Babylonian Talmud, translated by Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz, Random House, New York, 1989 - ca.97. 5. "Balaam," Jewish Encyclopedia, pg. 469. 6. Mishnah, Sanhedrin, 52a, The Babylonian Talmud, Soncino Press, 1948, London. 7. Sanhedrin, 107b. This is confirmed by The Jewish Encyclopedia article on "Jesus," p.170. 8. Sanhedrin 67a, cited. in The Talmud Unmasked, by Rev. I. B. Pranaitis, p. 34. A number of anti-Christian and Gentile passages of the Talmud, too inflammatory to be included in the 1948 Soncino translation, are presented in this credible work by a dedicated scholar and Hebraist. Many of these passages resurfaced in Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz's recent translation of the Talmud. The Talmud Unmasked is available from Christian Book Club, P.O. Box 566, Palmdale, CA, 93550. ph. (661)274-2240 9. Gittin, 57b. 10. Sanhedrin 43a. 11. Choschen Hammishpat, 156 Haggah. 12. "Gentiles," Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 623. 13. Treatise Semahot, ch. 2, p. 35; translated by Dov Zlotnick of the Jewish Theological Seminary, New Haven and London, 1966. 14. Articles on "Talmud" and "Authority" in the three major encyclopedias of Judaism, The Jewish Encyclopedia, The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, and The Encyclopedia Judaica, agree on the Talmud's vastly greater authority. 15. See, ADL's Foxman: Man of Faith? 16. 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#39. To: nobody (#31)
You "gotta be honest"? uh huh. What it SOUNDS like you "gotta be," or have chosen to be, is a heathen. I could say I hope that works out well for you but I know it won't.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You said: "Miracles exist only to deceive people, frequently for the purpose of demoralizing and minimalizing people through intimidation. " My bad. I didn't sift thru all of your posts and find 1 word with a similar meaning. Silly me. So, miracles exist? But they are only to deceive people. But they exist. They intimidate, but miracles exist. They demoralize, but they exist. Do they exist or don't they? If you dont believe in miracles, then say so. But dont say that they exist, but they are this, that, and the other thing without showing how this is the case. Sorry, but you are not making sense here. Try and let that bitterness go, and you will think straight. There is no reason for it, because I wont take the bait by acting like how you think I should act, or how you are trying to get me to act.
------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------
It empowers them to say that. I suppose I too could lapse into the same sort of gamesmanship if I was a doctor, because doctors seeem to say that sort of BS whenever possible - I wish I had a nickel for every time I hear that sort of stuff. I suppose if they can just stun the patient like that, it probably makes the rest of the meeting go smoothly, even if the patient doesn't buy it the doc knows it'll float with everyone else. You should know that if the same doctor later tells you you're evil for no apparent reason, it's because he's still full of shit. See? I care about you more (LOL) than someone who's just manipulating you into predictable patient reactions, and the doctor's all-too-common voodoo-like medical- religious quackpottery really should stop.
Admit it, you have a crush on God but do not want to let on about it.
You've gotta (got to) be bitter about my spelling here too.
God is a concept that it is always of dubious legitimate merit, yet most people buy it, for reasons presumably just as dubious. I'm somewhat obsessed with oddball things like that.
I believe there are other atheists and agnostics like me who do not ascribe to any pro-homosexual social or political agenda, presuming that includes what you meant to suggest the opposite of.
Please, tell me more.
I'd like to apologize to anyone who is named Chris, or Christine, etc. for not explaining earlier that there is no reason to take it personally. A name is just a name. Everyone in my family has Biblical names, I know how it feels. The truth here hurts, this I know personally, and I know it's not popular or politically correct.
Ask Barabbas! << Mark 15 >> New American Standard Bible Jesus before Pilate 1 Early in the morning the chief priests with the elders and scribes and the whole Council, immediately held a consultation; and binding Jesus, they led Him away and delivered Him to Pilate. 6 Now at the feast he used to release for them any one prisoner whom they requested. 'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
If I had the time, or cared enough, I might try to figure out why I should be bitter about your spelling. As it happens I am not bitter about anything.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I truly don't care. The context was about the pure intellectual gang-thuggery there, not the pure intellectual gang-thuggery there with your latest snot piled on top of it, anyway.
uh great. what a guy.
http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=70165 You seem to understand I posted this article as a warning that history is repeating itself. I'd venture to say the Zionists have more power in America today than the Bolsheviks had in 1917 Russia. Some historians estimate that 40- million Russians and Ukrainians, mostly Orthodox Christians, went to early graves in the aftermath of the Bolshevik Revolution. The gulags are already in place in America. Wake up! folks, it can happen here.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
If you "truly" don't care, why do you keep replying? Why waste your time on all of us stupid Christians? Well, you're not really replying, just namecalling. You protest too much, and it makes you look foolish.
------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------
I brought up something different from the thing I said I didn't care about, and you're pretending they're all the same thing. What's the point of talking to a word clown who does that sort of crap on a regular basis. There is none, I'm done with you. Take a hint and stop poking at me.
You used the word "shit" once to often on this thread. This post was your worst offense. Adios. You've been relegated permanently to the BOZO filter. Bye now Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Thanks, one less Bible-pushing asshole giving me crap in an environment completely polluted with them.
Is pushing the Bible an official objective of freedom4um? If so, I'm outta here.
I see no hint of Biblically-inspired idiocy on the forum's welcome page, so I guess I'm safe here for now. These Bible-pushers are something else.
OK, I fully expect you to put me on bozo then. I wont do it to you, because that is what you want me to do, and I already said I was not going to play that game. Your unjustified bitterness is going to take years off of your life, because you are probably like this in Real Life too. Let it go, not for my sake, but for yours.
------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------
Pot, meet kettle.
You can s*** my d*** first, rude needy person.
I never called you any names.
------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------
Maybe you'll take the hint on the result and stop abusing non-believers with your abundant Biblically-inspired religious nonsense. Nah, your agenda is too huge and popular for you to suffer in silence...
Okay, only if you insist, but who's the "bitter one" again?
You brought it up, so I have to ask, are you insinuating that "namecalling" is a logical fallacy existing on a level significantly higher than any other dubious argument technique that you'd care to identify in your diatribes against me?
You are. Look at what you wrote, vs what I and others wrote, and ask yourself how you would react in my / their place(s). Bitter accurately describes your words and attitude. Same thing when I said you were acting foolish. I didnt say you were a fool. THe people you think are giving you a hard time are just reacting to what you say and how you say it. There is no reason for it. If you don't want to have anything to do with believers, then dont have anything to do with them. No harm, no foul. But if you think that people will just sit back and put up with your attacks, you will get a predictable reaction. Maybe you want that reaction, I dont know. Personally, I think they are wrong for letting you pull their strings, but that is the choice they made, for their own reasons.
------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------
My diatribes against YOU? I didn't start this. I was perfectly willing to have a civil conversation.
------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------
I have to give the Catholics a lot of credit, because I was raised Catholic and two things they taught me were "don't proselytize" (including essentially to not even bring up one's religion unless asked) and that "Catholics are Christians", so my objections to proselytizing have nothing to do with me being a Christian or not. They never have. Anyway, the most interesting thing about that that I have noticed is that all proselytizers appear to be tremendous assholes in many suprising ways. The Catholics were oh so right about proselytizing. Quoting the Bible frequently where not being asked to do so is rather blatant proselytizing, IMO.
There is something we can agree on. We are not called to "win souls for the Lord". Those that do this see other people as just another jewel in their crowns. The church is corrupt and they have turned the Gospel upside down and inside out. Their "gospel" is good news for a very few, and infinitely bad news for the vast majority. Scripture, otoh, tells a different story. We are not responsible for converting anyone, God is. We are just to be ready to give an answer to those that ask. I can cite scripture to back all of this up. But I will ignite a real shitstorm myself among other christians if I do this, especially if I disprove the "eternal torture in "Hell" " BS. And, it is BS.
------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------
Catholics did not have to take all of the Bible literally (still don't, I suppose, so "evolution" per se is presumably still okay with them, for example), so there's one obvious reason for not bringing up the subject of one's religion.
You can call me "the bitter one" if you wish, but you might want to drop the objection to "namecalling" if that is the case, for logical consistency's sake.
Well, imo, there is no harm in discussing religion. The problem comes from trying to convince others that they must believe as they do, and they try real hard to do this. I made this mistake too, in the past. The problem was, what I thought was true was a lie. I was trying to get people to believe lies. I pissed off my share of people too. This is why I thank God that we are not responsible for converting anyone. We screw it up royally.
------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------
Name-calling is a great stress-reliever for the namecaller, and there are so many other, widely-used and more devious, ways of distracting from a point. I say let's not fuss too much about it. Anyways, it's almost the age of Aquarius and stuff (2150), and you know what that means. All new occult-based icons from the elite to replace the old, worn out ones. Appears to be a very feminine theme in the works for the next eon.
Sounds good to me.
------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------
You are one of the far too few who really "get it!" Christendom with their "official doctrine" are as corrupt as as any other "organized religion" in this World. Nobody (the poster provocateur) is ethnically gifted with the ability to gab and has learned well how to wield the power of the antagonist. For every action there is an equal but opposite reaction. Add the catalyst of human emotion and who knows what will erupt? He's a good soul at heart who's been indoctrinated in another belief system. The adrenaline power rush that comes from provoking emotional response is very addictive. He's putting the Stockholm Syndrome to the test. Gotta admit though, his style is very stimulating.
I am aware what COULD happen here, and know they have planned a holocaust for us. However, the way I am reading the Bible, I think it's the end of the road for them this time. God said before He came, He would bring to light the hidden things of darkness. I frankly think this move by the State Department is a good move for us. Their mask has come off. This government has been exposed for being antiChristian, and it exposes the Zionists for what they are as well, the Synagogue of Satan. I know I could be wrong, horribly wrong. We will have to wait and see, but for some unexplained reason, I have a good feeling about this.
President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins
I wish I had a nickel for every person I have met who turned against Christianity for that very reason. and two things they taught me were "don't proselytize" that's funny coming from them! "....Undermining the American Constitution The Vatican, which has historically been no friend of the Bible, has nevertheless inveigled a much more highly regarded status in the United States than perhaps anywhere else in the world today. In the US, Roman Catholics are more prosperous and the so-called evangelicals much more pro-Romanist than in many other countries of the world. Rome has systematically taken advantage of the religious freedom guaranteed by the US Constitution to promote her own doctrines while scheming to undermine those of American Protestantism. The more recent open assault by the Vatican on the freedom of religion guaranteed by the US Constitution is the culmination of a conspiracy launched when overwhelmingly Protestant America elected Roman Catholic John F Kennedy as President. At his funeral we had the cunning exposure of Protestants through television to the paraphernalia of Papist propaganda and the rigmarole of Romanist ritual. The advent of ecumenical evangelism also made the false doctrines of Rome acceptable to millions of misled American fundamentalists. At the end of 1953, before he turned to apostasy, Billy Graham spoke out against Roman Catholicism. The United States was at that time one of the most Protestant nations on earth; now, on the contrary, its leaders support the cause of the Vatican in many areas of the world. Consider for instance the actions of the ecumenical Kennedy-Carter-Clinton clique which supported a united Ireland through the Irish-American lobby, facilitated Sinn Féin/IRA fund-raising, and thus assisted the Vatican in waging its war of aggression against Britain on another front. Such policies, of course, are treacherous to the American Constitution, for those who drew up the Declaration of Independence were not Roman Catholic Irishmen; they were men of deep personal religious conviction, steeped in the Calvinist tradition. The heritage of the Scottish National Church and the Scottish national system of education founded by John Knox was brought to America by the Scotch-Irish, whose role and existence President Clinton belittled and ignored in order to elevate the Republican terrorists whose ancestors did not land in the USA until two centuries later and largely acquired the reputation of undesirables. In 1995, no less than US 53 lawmakers sent a letter to House speaker Newt Gingrich asking him to have the Pope give an address to a joint session of Congress in October of that year. Representative John Boehner, the sponsor of the letter, said that such an invitation was "highly appropriate for the Vatican head of state and spiritual leader of 900 million [Roman] Catholics world-wide and 60 million American [Roman] Catholics. Both numbers were, as usual, grossly exaggerated. Resistance to the Vatican's subversion of Protestantism in America was profoundly symbolised in 1997 when an Alabama Judge refused to remove a plaque inscribed with the Ten Commandments displayed in his courtroom. By the same token, the need for such resistance underlines the huge strides which Romanism has made in America in the last decade. When the Pope visits the US this year, Americans should remember that he has been dubbed "the last great critic of capitalism", one of the systems which his predecessor said would have to be "deprecated" before Rome could achieve her aims. Americans must remember, too, that the Roman hierarchy has formally announced its intention to destroy their country, where she is entrenching herself with strength and promoting herself with subtlety. In L'Aurora of December, 1950, 'Father' Patrick O'Brien announced: "We, the Hierarchy of the Holy Catholic Church, [...] if necessary, shall change, amend, or blot out the present Constitution so that the President may enforce his, or rather our, humanitarian programme and all phases of human rights [!] as laid down by our saintly Popes and the Holy Mother Church. [...] We are going to have our laws made and enforced according to the Holy See and the Popes and the canon law of the Papal throne. Our entire social structure must be rebuilt on that basis. Our educational laws must be constructed to end the atheism, the Red peril of totalitarianism, Protestantism, Communism, Socialism and all other of like ilk and stamp, be driven from this fair land. [...] We control America and we do not propose to stop until America or Americans are genuinely Roman Catholic and remain so." The Union and Echo, the official diocesan organ of the Roman Catholic Church in Buffalo, declared in December 1950 that at the rate of 126,000 converts a year in the United States it would take too long to "convert" (i.e. Romanise) America: "We must convert [...] Politics, Economics, Sociology, Business, Entertainment, Labour and Management, the Department of State and the Executive Branch of our Government to Christian and hence Catholic principles." There are already signs of a trade war being conducted by the EU against the US. Europe first, America next, tomorrow the world! Christians beware! http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=euro2 JESUIT Extreme Oath of Induction as recorded in the Journals of the 62D Congress, 3d Session of the U.S. (House Calendar No. 397. Report No. 1523) Congressional Record---House, 15 Feb. 1913, pp3215-3216 I_______________ , now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of Heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyoly, in the pontification of Paul the III, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the Virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His Holiness, the Pope, is Christ's vice regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by the virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given His Holiness by my Saviour, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical kings, princes, States, Commonwealths, and Governments and they may be safely destroyed. Therefore to the utmost of my power I will defend this doctrine and His Holiness's right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran Church of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, and the now pretended authority and Church's of England and Scotland, and the branches of same now established in Ireland and on the continent of America and elsewhere and all adherents in regard that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now denounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or State, named Protestant or Liberal, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates or officers. I do further declare that the doctrine of the Churches of England and Scotland of the Calvinists, Huguenots, and others of the name of Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the same. I do further declare that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness's agents, in any place where I should be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Ireland or America, or in any other kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise. I do further promise and declare that, notwithstanding I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical for the propogation of the Mother Church's interest; to keep secret and private all her agents counsels from time to time, as they intrust me, and not divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstances whatever, but to execute all that should be proposed, given in charge, or discovered unto me by you, my Ghostly Father, or any of this sacred order. I do further promise and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ. That I will go to any part of the world whithersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions north, jungles of India, to the centers of civilization of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the babarous savages of America without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things whatsoever is communicated to me. I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition, and that will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infant's heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus. In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all corporal powers, and with the dagger which I now receive I will subscribe my name written in my blood in testimony thereof; and should I prove false or weaken in my determination may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet and my throat from ear to ear, my belly opened and sulpher burned therin with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal hell forever. That I will in voting always vote for a Knight of Columbus in preference to a Protestant, especially a Mason, and that I will leave my party so to do; that if two Catholics are on the ticket I will satisfy myself which is the better supporter of Mother Church and vote accordingly. That I will not deal with or employ a Protestant if in my power to deal with or employ a Catholic. That I will place Catholic girls in Protestant families that a weekly report may be made of the inner movements of the heretics. That I will provide myself with arms and ammunition that I may be in readiness when the word is passed, or I am commanded to defend the church either as an individual or with the militia of the Pope. All of which I,_______________, do swear by the blessed Trinity and blessed sacrament which I am now to receive to perform and on part to keep this my oath. In testimony hereof, I take this most holy and blessed sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same further with my name written with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and seal in the face of this holy sacrament. members.foothills.net/ricefile/extreme.Html The Last Great Inquisition!! http://www.reformation.org/inquisit.html Quoting the Bible frequently where not being asked to do so is rather blatant proselytizing, IMO. Did you by any chance happen to notice the FORUM HEADING you have been prattling on all day is entitled "Religion"?
President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins
Protestantism is a joke. American protestantism is ... words fail me. Much worse than a joke. Studying their "doctrines" and listening to their pastors are lazy mans excuses for not taking the time to read the Bible for themselves. The truth is so simple that most people wouldn't believe it. It's just not complex enough to satisfy them. In fact, the truth offends them. At least Catholics are united behind 1 leader. Each protestant denomination (how many are there?) believes different things. THey cannot even agree on salvation. It's all Babylon. I hope His people get out soon.
------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI gotta be honest here - you're both full of shit and proud of it.
Lord Acton
#40. To: nobody (#37)
How about "frequently"?
#41. To: ReallyOrnery (#4)
The neurosurgeon who operated on me called me a walking miracle
#42. To: nobody (#41)
#43. To: James Deffenbach (#39)
#44. To: _______ (#42)
you have a crush on God
#45. To: _______ (#42)
Admit it, you have a crush on God but do not want to let on about it.
#46. To: _______ (#42)
you have a crush on God but do not want to let on about it
#47. To: All (#46)
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#48. To: Zoroaster (#0)
The State Department reports, "The tactics of many anti-Semitic groups include the propagation of conspiracy theories Traditional conspiracy theories" include the belief "that the Jews are responsible for the death of Christ."
2 Pilate questioned Him, “Are You the King of the Jews?” And He answered him, “It is as you say.”
3 The chief priests began to accuse Him harshly.
4 Then Pilate questioned Him again, saying, “Do You not answer? See how many charges they bring against You!”
5 But Jesus made no further answer; so Pilate was amazed.
7 The man named Barabbas had been imprisoned with the insurrectionists who had committed murder in the insurrection.
8 The crowd went up and began asking him to do as he had been accustomed to do for them.
9 Pilate answered them, saying, “Do you want me to release for you the King of the Jews?”
10 For he was aware that the chief priests had handed Him over because of envy.
11 But the chief priests stirred up the crowd to ask him to release Barabbas for them instead.
12 Answering again, Pilate said to them, “Then what shall I do with Him whom you call the King of the Jews?”
13 They shouted back, “Crucify Him!”
14 But Pilate said to them, “Why, what evil has He done?” But they shouted all the more, “Crucify Him!”
15 Wishing to satisfy the crowd, Pilate released Barabbas for them, and after having Jesus scourged, he handed Him over to be crucified.
#49. To: nobody (#43)
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You've gotta (got to) be bitter about my spelling here too.
Lord Acton
#50. To: PSUSA (#40)
Silly me.
#51. To: James Deffenbach (#49)
I might try to figure out why I should be bitter about your spelling
#52. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#33)
NOW THE GOVERNMENT CAN LEGALLY KILL CHRISTIANS [Cong. Bill Dannemeyer explains how the NOAHIDE LAW was treacherously passed.]
#53. To: nobody (#50)
I truly don't care. The context was about the pure intellectual gang-thuggery there, not the pure intellectual gang-thuggery there with your latest snot piled on top of it, anyway.
#54. To: PSUSA (#53)
#55. To: nobody (#20)
The Bible is still a piece of shit........
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#56. To: IndieTX (#55)
#57. To: All (#56)
#58. To: All (#57)
#59. To: nobody (#54)
I'm done with you.
#60. To: PSUSA (#53)
namecalling
#61. To: PSUSA (#59)
put me on bozo then
#62. To: nobody (#60)
Pot, meet kettle.
#63. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#36)
I have tried to instruct you as well.
#64. To: PSUSA (#62)
called you any names
#65. To: PSUSA (#62)
I never called you any names
#66. To: nobody (#64)
Okay, only if you insist, but who's the "bitter one" again?
#67. To: nobody (#65)
in your diatribes against me?
#68. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#36)
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#69. To: nobody (#68)
Anyway, the most interesting thing about that that I have noticed is that all proselytizers appear to be tremendous assholes in many suprising ways. The Catholics were oh so right about proselytizing.
#70. To: PSUSA (#69)
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#71. To: nobody (#58)
#72. To: PSUSA (#66)
#73. To: nobody (#70)
#74. To: PSUSA (#73)
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#75. To: nobody (#74)
I say let's not fuss too much about it.
#76. To: PSUSA (#75)
#77. To: Zoroaster (#52)
#78. To: nobody (#68)
I have to give the Catholics a lot of credit, because I was raised Catholic
#79. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#78)
Rome has systematically taken advantage of the religious freedom guaranteed by the US Constitution to promote her own doctrines while scheming to undermine those of American Protestantism.
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