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Title: Hi, Robin! Hi!!!
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Published: Apr 18, 2008
Author: YertleTurtle
Post Date: 2008-04-18 22:29:36 by YertleTurtle
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Robin's got me on Bozo.
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HAHAHAHAHA! Now FIVE of the traitorOphiles have bozoed my nic. There are AT LEAST another 6 or 7 to go, maybe many more. It is beneficial to identify allegiances, albeit late, with what is coming.
Be happy, but understand this is a war and lives, many of them, are at stake. Ecuador will not even be safe. This is THE stand. Thank you for your concern. I don't have any wine. I can't afford a ticket to Ecuador or I'd likely be there. Or somewhere warm. You don't have to explain to me how serious this 'war' is. This is a war of souls. The God I pray to will make sure there is justice. There will be justice. I won't tell you what my choice would be. You can probably guess. People should still be nice. People like you and I.
Take care good Sir. ALL the best to you. Just make sure that 'nice' keeps you alive. "Nice" has gotten us in this position, this horrible and dreadful position. For me, nice no more. No quarter, no mercy. You have a PM.
You are supporting a candidate that has made rude, racist and unnecessary remarks. I suppose YT was trying to get on your good side. :)
God is always good!
They're called "leaders" because they can bribe enough people to follow them. Throughout history, take a look at them. Alexander, Caesar, Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Hitler, Lenin - they all promised their followers that they would simply be taken care of and threw enough coin at them to ensure loyalty. The trick is that people need to have some standards, some ethics, some integrity and say "I cannot be bought." Until that day, we're doomed to have politicians and other "leaders" running around buying loyalty. Loyalty should be earned, not just given. But we're not there yet. We don't understand that the way to get something done is to do it. Its too bad.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Contrary to media propaganda, character DOES matter and seems to be in short supply among those running for political power..ahh..I mean..office.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx You don't have to explain to me how serious this 'war' is. This is a war of souls. The God I pray to will make sure there is justice. There will be justice. I won't tell you what my choice would be. You can probably guess. "Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of every day routine- the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration, thereby those important events of the past usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, a celebration of a nice holiday, I thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat. "There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. "And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. "How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler. "He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence. Last night I destroyed the Old Bailey, to remind this country of what it has forgotten. "More than four hundred years ago a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives. "So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you then I would suggest you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot." "V" (This is the only solution I'm afraid. They've left us no other choice. They have ignored our pleas and repudiated our freedoms and Constitution and Bill of Right. There is only one more course of action; albeit not the one we all wanted but our CHILDREN depend on us or they will have NO future)
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Ten years ago I became a martyr by falling from a tree locally with lots of folks speaking for me as I lay in a coma. However I lived and found every utterance I made to be criticized by many of my brethren. For example, in the Boston Tea Party at the Nike store done with people yelling "Remember Ferret Mike" I went down and talked to activists who had done the action, the store workers and my former work colleges at 5th Street Public Market where I nearly died about 10 tears ago. I was interviewed by the press and I told them a Boston Tea Party was good for the soul, but those doing this action fell down by throwing pumpkins to the fountain level three floors below. I chided them for the reckless activism as a person stepping out into the courtyard as the pumpkins feel could of been killed. I was bad vibed, criticized angrily and hated by some of our resident Earth Liberation Front people who were at odds with me already anyway for their poisonous activism. I was told I had criticized out of the activist community and blasted for this alleged 'crime.' So what? I spoke the truth, and in the long run I have gained by doing so. It was painful, but I am grateful for this experience. Never forget, to thine own self be true. I never doubt my abilities and don't depend on others to define me. Live Martyrs piss people off, it's hard to do the talking for them. I am here to tell you though, it sure beats the alternative. That near fatal fall and how it played to some tempered my resolve never to go to the level of my antagonists. Always be true to your ethical beliefs, opinions and world view. You have my deepest respect, I have never seen you do anything but be true to your beliefs, ethics, and the truth. It is outstanding to have gotten to know you.
If you go back to the discussions back then, my problem with RP was not that he could not win but that he could not win as a GOP. I always made that clear. My point is and was that winning is NOT everything. I am not of the kind that wants to see 'a woman' or 'a minority' or 'a GOP' in the White House. Ron Paul could not win the GOP nomination because he was not part of the GOP mainstream while McCain, Romney, Huckabee and Giuliani were and are. I also discussed the harm that Ron Paul was inflicting to the cause of liberty by identifying him and, more importantly, the ideas he stood for, with the GOP and by helping legitimize the eventual winner of the GOP nomination. I am seeing no evidence that I was wrong in any of the above. McCain can now claim that he defeated Ron Paul, fair and square and, by association, the ideas of liberty and respect for the US constitution that Ron Paul exposes. He feels now entitled to ask for the votes of RP's supporters as he is now demanding the support of evangelicals and of paleo conservatives. I supported Buchanan back in 2000 even though it was clear that he could not win. After the fact, I have many issues with Buchanan today. However, he had the decency and the honesty to quit the GOP back in 2000, while he was running. I currently have a preference for Obama, not because I approve of many of his ideas but because he is clearly preferable to the other 2 'choices' available. He also seems to have the ability to learn from his mistakes and from the mistakes of others and to apply 'lessons learned'. Unlike RP's relation to the GOP, Obama is within his party's mainstream so it's okay for him to run as a Demo. I loathe the Demo ideology of collectivism, homosexualism and big statism and I would not favor any politician just because he was a regimented Demo. I support Obama because he shows visible traces of humanity and because I see hints that he may have the ability to ignore ideology or the party's mandates when dealing with reality.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
LOL - it looks like you just bozoed the same contributor I did a few days ago. I believe that you expressed some criticism at the time, mainly for publicly announcing my decision. Now... you've done it yourself and I have no problem with that. :) Peace, brother.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I do that all the time!
I can kill you with my brain or bash you with my shell.
Thin gruel... Obama IS part of the system. Anyone that is NOT part and parcel, such as Paul, is ridiculed out of the gate by the MSM and the other candidates. Do you recall any other candidate, either party, that was mocked, ridiculed and laughed at by the moderators and other candidates?
I do that all the time! The humor side of your brain works pretty good ... it's the political side that needs to be tuned.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
Pretty good???? Is that the best you can do? I think Turtle is crazy, like a sly fox that has a bag full of your chickens and you dont know it.
Obama is as much part of the system as Ron Paul is. The fact that the MSM and Hillary are uncomfortable with him should be a plus, not a liability. Buchanan was ridiculed by the MSM and the Jews as much as Obama or more back in 2000. Today's, the stupid TV heads and the Jews are after Obama. Note how even the beloved Lou Dobbs is now a rabid Hilary girl now.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Hardly... The system stopped Paul in his tracks. He then took a dive and acquired political religion as a staunch republican, recall that??? Obama has been given a pass by everyone because they dare not attack or ridicule. Obama WILL take a dive also when told to and accept the VP job. Obama supporters will then have to support the Clintons, that is disgusting.
Obama is much more comfortable inside the system than Ron Paul is. And this is NOT a good point for RP. People should be true to their views and act upon them not do what is convenient. By the way, talking about your distorted and dishonest accusation that I was putting down RP because 'he could not win' - which I re-discussed in another contribution to this thread - it is VERY likely that I would vote for Bob Barr in the general election if he runs as an independent and I will support him, regardless of the odds (none) of his winning the presidency, just as I supported Buchanan and voted for him back in 2000. So, to conclude, I am always right and you are always wrong even though, as I stated, I admire and respect you backing your views with concrete actions. What I do not respect is your dishonest efforts to distort and misrepresent my views.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
vast Those are your words not mine. I support no one that is part of the system.
You support or supported Ron Paul. Don't you or didn't you?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
DID...until he swore allegiance to the republican party.
Oh, come on. RP is and was a GOP member when he announced his run for prez and, ever since, he always stated that he would seek the GOP nomination and that he would stay with the GOP and not attempt to do a 'third party' BECAUSE, he claimed, he was a GOP and was planning to stay one. Apparently, poor me was able to see this but you couldn't, which proves my point about me being right most of the time and principled always.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I think you're right. Obama will be #2 with Rodham #1.
Correct, and he was a republican when he ran as a Libertarian, or had you forgotten that???
angle... A sure winner, how can they lose???? Obama alone is a sure loser, Clinton alone is a possible loser. She will "sleep" with anyone that can help make her queen.
Don't change the topic. You said that you do not support anyone who's part of the system. Ron Paul is part of the system and you supported him until a few days ago. QED
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Jeezus...you are hung up on semantics. The system is the one ruled by the elites with their chosen in place. As such, Paul is not a part of it.
Throughout history, take a look at them. Alexander, Caesar, Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Hitler, Lenin - they all promised their followers that they would simply be taken care of and threw enough coin at them to ensure loyalty. The trick is that people need to have some standards, some ethics, some integrity and say "I cannot be bought." Until that day, we're doomed to have politicians and other "leaders" running around buying loyalty. Loyalty should be earned, not just given. But we're not there yet. We don't understand that the way to get something done is to do it. Its too bad. Excellent analysis!!!! The trick is that people need to have some standards, some ethics, some integrity and say "I cannot be bought." Until that day, we're doomed to have politicians and other "leaders" running around buying loyalty. Loyalty should be earned, not just given. Absolutely. At this point, there are few consequences for people. That is coming to an end. This rattletrap just needs to make it to election day.
As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44
Sure he is part of the system. He may not be welcome in the inner circle but in and of the 2-party system he is. Note that even Cyni agrees that RP is 'system' today even though he claims that he wasn't a few days ago.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
This is where you're confused. The system that runs the show is not the system we participate in. We're just part of general society, not the "system." The system's been hijacked. That's why RP ain't part of it.
Your confusion lies in the difference between a system politician, and a member of the Establishment/Elite. I do consider RP part of the system but he isn't a member of the Establishment. With Obama's endorsements, he is both a system player and a budding member of the Establishment.
Bring it.
I'd like to see it averted, but... :(
As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44
Lots of people belong to dem and pub party, but they are not part of the system and you saw that live on TV..."Who was the only candidate from either party that was crucified in front of your own eyes"? Paul is a party member but far from the ruling elite. Perhaps you are a democrat but I suspect you do not sup with the Clintons, see the difference?
They offered the same to Christine and me but we said no as the Sunday paper was what was needed. The other ad was $150,000, so you see the publisher was not happy. But the publisher (who supports McCain) and McCain's campaign were happy in that neither Lyman's ad nor our ad ran on Sunday, the day their readership is 10+ times any other day.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
I am fully aware of it and I expect an unbelievable amount of pressure coming from the establishment to swallow him in and integrate him. This is why it is important that he is aware of support coming to him from outside. He should understand that he will get the WH job not because of the Jewish/Israel lobby or the militaristic/imperialistic interests but because many 'independents' supported him. It is possible that he may be, at least partially, integrated into the establishment but, this is all we get today. I see his campaign being, indeed, about 'hope' as he is about to knock down the woman who married 'the man from Hope'.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
In this case the publisher was not the owners, and had to do the explaining. robin, young lady you are looking for long shadows at high noon.
I an a 'Democrat' and have been one for 4 weeks already because I wanted to vote in the PA primary. That's it. However, RP ran for office as a GOP, he voted for the GOP-nominated speaker. He is strongly aligned with the GOP party. He is not 'inner circle' but he found it important to get the GOP blessing to run for US prez. The GOP said 'no' and... that's it. If you are asking for your landlord's permission to marry your sweetheart, it doesn't really matter how you trash the landlord when you are having beer at the pub. You are still your landlord's subject.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
There, you've said it again. You keep saying it. Why should we take your prediction seriously, when you won't say you will admit you were wrong if Obama gets the presidential nomination? For that matter, why should we take anything you say seriously?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Cynicom said on this forum a while back that he was going to change his registration to Democratic so that he could vote for Hillary in the primary. I haven't noticed him talking about that intention of late, but I suspect he went ahead and did what he said he intended to do.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
vast... My last word (thank heavens). The ruling elite are not dems or pub s, they are the rulers, they own and operate both "so called parties". With this in mind, some of us consider the government as our enemy, regadless of which "party" is in power. Supporting any of the three available is support for the ruling elite. Perhaps you note there is ZERO support here for McKooK??? doe s that not make you stop and pnder, if not you should.
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#97. To: _______ (#94)
In less time than it will take to set a good stock of wine, your children will be chipped-slaves.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#98. To: wudidiz (#97)
#99. To: robin (#3)
YT came on immediately with a rude, racist and unnecessary remark
#100. To: Peppa (#54)
I'm still wondering why they are called leaders, when the clock always moves closer to midnite.
#101. To: mirage (#100)
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#102. To: wudidiz, _______ (#97)
In less time than it will take to set a good stock of wine, your children will be chipped-slaves
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#103. To: Pinguinite (#87)
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Obama for president 2008
#104. To: Cynicom (#43)
All the time you were ragging us that Paul could not win, we knew that
#105. To: Pinguinite (#87)
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Listen, it seems your intellect is sharing the same mud puddle as your morals so I'm going to put you on bozo, okay? Don't take it too hard though. I'll probably take you back off when you get into 6th or 7th grade.
#106. To: Elliott Jackalope (#65)
perhaps you might consider fertilizing yourself?
#107. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#104)
I support Obama because he shows visible traces of humanity and because I see hints that he may have the ability to ignore ideology or the party's mandates when dealing with reality.
#108. To: YertleTurtle (#106)
perhaps you might consider fertilizing yourself?
#109. To: noone222 (#108)
The humor side of your brain works pretty good ..
#110. To: Cynicom (#107)
#111. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#110)
Obama is as much part of the system as Ron Paul is.
#112. To: Cynicom (#111)
#113. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#112)
"I support Obama"
#114. To: Cynicom (#113)
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#115. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#114)
You support or supported Ron Paul. Don't you or didn't you?
#116. To: Cynicom (#115)
#117. To: Cynicom (#111)
#118. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#116)
Oh, come on. RP is and was a GOP member
#119. To: angle (#117)
I think you're right. Obama will be #2 with Rodham #1.
#120. To: Cynicom (#118)
#121. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#120)
#122. To: mirage (#100)
They're called "leaders" because they can bribe enough people to follow them.
#123. To: angle (#121)
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#124. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#123)
#125. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#120)
Ron Paul is part of the system and you supported him until a few days ago.
#126. To: Peppa (#122)
At this point, there are few consequences for people. That is coming to an end.
#127. To: angle (#126)
At this point, there are few consequences for people. That is coming to an end. Bring it.
#128. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#120)
Don't change the topic.
#129. To: Cynicom (#46)
and the publisher said it cost them a fortune for that error in that they ran the ad for two days.
#130. To: Jethro Tull (#125)
#131. To: robin (#129)
#132. To: Cynicom (#128)
#133. To: robin (#129)
Hi, Robin! Hi!!!
Silver Convention - Fly Robin Fly
#134. To: Cynicom (#111)
Obama WILL take a dive also when told to and accept the VP job.
#135. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Cynicom (#132)
I an a 'Democrat' and have been one for 4 weeks already because I wanted to vote in the PA primary.
#136. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#132)
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