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Title: Hi, Robin! Hi!!!
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Published: Apr 18, 2008
Author: YertleTurtle
Post Date: 2008-04-18 22:29:36 by YertleTurtle
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Comments: 159

Robin's got me on Bozo.

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Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 125.

#2. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

I think angle is the one that has me on bozo but not sure. I was so proud of my zero too. Course they can see threads that you start.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-04-18   22:41:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't have you on bozo, but I put YT on bozo today. I posted an article from Spiegel asking why does America have a Holocaust Museum but no museum for slavery. YT came on immediately with a rude, racist and unnecessary remark that really had nothing to do with the discussion. And I decided I was fed up with this sort of attitude (or is that attytood). In fact, I put everyone on that thread on bozo. It was a very cleansing experience, I can tell you.

robin  posted on  2008-04-18   22:46:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It was a very cleansing experience, I can tell you.

robin...

Bozoing does not work. It is self defeating, akin to book burning. No one gets rousted here any more than me but I refuse to BOZO.

I call people now and then on their vulgar language but I do not bozo them.

I am sorry to see you do that. Ignore if you must but bozo is not your way.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-18   22:57:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I find support on this 4um for racist Marxist OWMs to be vulgar personal attacks on each and every FREEDOM loving patriot that treads here.

I came here when there were banners and links to Ron Paul fundraisers.

Feh

_______  posted on  2008-04-18   23:07:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I came here when there were banners and links to Ron Paul fundraisers.

And did you see my epistle of yesterday to Ping and other O'philes?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-18   23:16:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And did you see my epistle of yesterday to Ping and other O'philes?

I am sure I did, I make it a point to read what you post.

What we have witnessed here, watching supposed patriots putting on pom poms for a racist Marxist cabal puppet, is enough to make me hurl.

Projectile hurling.

_______  posted on  2008-04-18   23:19:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

______, Here is what I posted yesterday.

#29. To: FormerLurker, Pinguinite, Jethro Tull, Peppa, FOH, Christine, critter, buckeye, All (#24)

You know Cyni, with all the non-stop slamming of Ron Paul, it really makes sense that you're just a shill. The thought that you never gave a penny to his campaign makes a lot of sense.

In Cyni's defense, I was a huge Ron Paul supporter myself, until I saw a total lack of effort on his part to carry on the campaign.

All...

This was something that Christine and I kept to ourselves, but to clarify any distortions being spread I will say this...

Christine and I collaborated on the Ron Paul effort for 4um. Only the two of us, at my instigation.

I underwrote the entire cost of the intended ad at a cost of nearly $2000, knowing full well the members of 4um would never come up with that amount of money. The talkers and non doers indeed were silent, they know who they are.

I admonished Christine at the time that this effort would indeed show those members that were Americans, and those that were not friends at all, rather they were in hiding, not distressed with our government, but rather just partisans waiting to use 4um.

As a result, I ate several hundred dollars of the cost, which would have been much more had it not been for two Americans that stepped forward to help shoulder the burden. Beyond that was my regular contributions to Paul, so that we might at least have a choice, even though winning was never a possibility.

Only Christine knows the people that contributed and the amounts, the number of contributors vs the talkers on 4um was a sad but true indication between Americans and partisan believers.

When Paul took a dive, and suddenly became a devout republican, only the naive and gullible would have kept sending money. For those that have not done their own research, Paul had done this once before, due to pressure from Pat Buchanan, leaving his supporters in the lurch. It is all on the record for those that care to look.

Nearly a year ago I warned Christine that with passing months, many of our friends would out themselves as partisan believers, not as friends looking for a better government. With that in mind I compiled a list of those that would reveal themselves, that list proved to be 100 per cent correct, except I overlooked three "friends" that have since showed their true colors.

Cynicom posted on 2008-04-17 11:17:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-18   23:25:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I've been consistent on RP. I stated from the beginning that his run as a GOP was poisonous to the cause of liberty and it did not deserve support even though I didn't disagree with most of RP's views. I also stated that there was at least one view I disagreed with: his pronouncement that 'the American people' had no responsibility whatsoever for the Iraq disaster.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-18   23:30:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

vast...You were a sideliner, but I like you anyway. If everyone here agreed with me on anything, I would run for cover.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-18   23:33:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

By the way, if you bankrolled that RP ad, I find your efforts laudable and admirable. I have respect for those who act their beliefs. I even respect the terrorists who are willing to die and do die for their cause even when their views are completely different from mine.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-18   23:41:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

By the way, if you bankrolled that RP ad, I find your efforts laudable and admirable.

vast I do thank you for that..All the time you were ragging us that Paul could not win, we knew that, we wanted a choice, nothing more.

Now we have no choice.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-18   23:43:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

All the time you were ragging us that Paul could not win, we knew that

If you go back to the discussions back then, my problem with RP was not that he could not win but that he could not win as a GOP. I always made that clear. My point is and was that winning is NOT everything. I am not of the kind that wants to see 'a woman' or 'a minority' or 'a GOP' in the White House. Ron Paul could not win the GOP nomination because he was not part of the GOP mainstream while McCain, Romney, Huckabee and Giuliani were and are. I also discussed the harm that Ron Paul was inflicting to the cause of liberty by identifying him and, more importantly, the ideas he stood for, with the GOP and by helping legitimize the eventual winner of the GOP nomination. I am seeing no evidence that I was wrong in any of the above. McCain can now claim that he defeated Ron Paul, fair and square and, by association, the ideas of liberty and respect for the US constitution that Ron Paul exposes. He feels now entitled to ask for the votes of RP's supporters as he is now demanding the support of evangelicals and of paleo conservatives.

I supported Buchanan back in 2000 even though it was clear that he could not win. After the fact, I have many issues with Buchanan today. However, he had the decency and the honesty to quit the GOP back in 2000, while he was running. I currently have a preference for Obama, not because I approve of many of his ideas but because he is clearly preferable to the other 2 'choices' available. He also seems to have the ability to learn from his mistakes and from the mistakes of others and to apply 'lessons learned'. Unlike RP's relation to the GOP, Obama is within his party's mainstream so it's okay for him to run as a Demo. I loathe the Demo ideology of collectivism, homosexualism and big statism and I would not favor any politician just because he was a regimented Demo. I support Obama because he shows visible traces of humanity and because I see hints that he may have the ability to ignore ideology or the party's mandates when dealing with reality.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-19   7:39:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I support Obama because he shows visible traces of humanity and because I see hints that he may have the ability to ignore ideology or the party's mandates when dealing with reality.

Thin gruel...

Obama IS part of the system. Anyone that is NOT part and parcel, such as Paul, is ridiculed out of the gate by the MSM and the other candidates. Do you recall any other candidate, either party, that was mocked, ridiculed and laughed at by the moderators and other candidates?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-19   8:35:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Obama is as much part of the system as Ron Paul is.

The fact that the MSM and Hillary are uncomfortable with him should be a plus, not a liability. Buchanan was ridiculed by the MSM and the Jews as much as Obama or more back in 2000. Today's, the stupid TV heads and the Jews are after Obama. Note how even the beloved Lou Dobbs is now a rabid Hilary girl now.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-19   8:44:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Obama is as much part of the system as Ron Paul is.

Hardly...

The system stopped Paul in his tracks. He then took a dive and acquired political religion as a staunch republican, recall that???

Obama has been given a pass by everyone because they dare not attack or ridicule. Obama WILL take a dive also when told to and accept the VP job.

Obama supporters will then have to support the Clintons, that is disgusting.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-19   8:53:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Obama is much more comfortable inside the system than Ron Paul is. And this is NOT a good point for RP. People should be true to their views and act upon them not do what is convenient.

By the way, talking about your distorted and dishonest accusation that I was putting down RP because 'he could not win' - which I re-discussed in another contribution to this thread - it is VERY likely that I would vote for Bob Barr in the general election if he runs as an independent and I will support him, regardless of the odds (none) of his winning the presidency, just as I supported Buchanan and voted for him back in 2000.

So, to conclude, I am always right and you are always wrong even though, as I stated, I admire and respect you backing your views with concrete actions. What I do not respect is your dishonest efforts to distort and misrepresent my views.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-19   9:02:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"I support Obama"

vast

Those are your words not mine.

I support no one that is part of the system.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-19   9:13:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You support or supported Ron Paul. Don't you or didn't you?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-19   9:15:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You support or supported Ron Paul. Don't you or didn't you?

DID...until he swore allegiance to the republican party.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-19   9:26:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh, come on. RP is and was a GOP member when he announced his run for prez and, ever since, he always stated that he would seek the GOP nomination and that he would stay with the GOP and not attempt to do a 'third party' BECAUSE, he claimed, he was a GOP and was planning to stay one. Apparently, poor me was able to see this but you couldn't, which proves my point about me being right most of the time and principled always.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-19   9:33:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh, come on. RP is and was a GOP member

Correct, and he was a republican when he ran as a Libertarian, or had you forgotten that???

Cynicom  posted on  2008-04-19   9:47:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Don't change the topic. You said that you do not support anyone who's part of the system. Ron Paul is part of the system and you supported him until a few days ago.

QED

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-19   9:50:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Ron Paul is part of the system and you supported him until a few days ago.

Your confusion lies in the difference between a system politician, and a member of the Establishment/Elite. I do consider RP part of the system but he isn't a member of the Establishment. With Obama's endorsements, he is both a system player and a budding member of the Establishment.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-19   10:00:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#130. To: Jethro Tull (#125)

I am fully aware of it and I expect an unbelievable amount of pressure coming from the establishment to swallow him in and integrate him. This is why it is important that he is aware of support coming to him from outside. He should understand that he will get the WH job not because of the Jewish/Israel lobby or the militaristic/imperialistic interests but because many 'independents' supported him. It is possible that he may be, at least partially, integrated into the establishment but, this is all we get today. I see his campaign being, indeed, about 'hope' as he is about to knock down the woman who married 'the man from Hope'.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-19 10:13:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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