Pep, respectfully I submit to you that there are Americans that run businesses on a global scale and put America first.
It is really not that difficult, but it requires balance, priorities and desire.
True. Each country should put their own needs first. Fair trade where both/all parties have mutual benefit.
As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44
If you prefer not to do the gentlemanly thing, that is all right. The people here have seen what you wrote along with your vulgar language.
Yes, well, when people openly ridicule me for refusing to endorse the deaths of 10's of thousands of innocent people to further 2A activism, it gets me worked up. (I'll refer you to my hypothetical thread:)
So if you feel genuinely hurt for being called a shill, while I may be tempted to start crying on your behalf, at least you weren't assaulted by mindless bimbos with the moral depth of a mud puddle. I would also point out that one post suggesting you are a shill pales in comparison to the relentless hammering you dole out on Ron Paul on these pages alone, and yet Ron Paul has done far more for freedom is his life than you (and anyone else here) has ever done. It's a classic case of sour grapes.
As for your complaint of my choice of words in expressing my outrage, I happen to know this 4um is equipped with a profanity filter, which the owner has opted NOT to use. So while you may well choose to compare 4um to a church, you must certainly accept the pastor's permissive rules on vulgarity. Or if you have a burning desire to not have vulgarity penetrate your eyes, I suggest you take it up with the owner.
BTW, I am thankful to report that the vast majority of respondents share my moral code. That has reaffirmed my faith in the majority of 4umer's, and also illustrated that those who slander me are certainly just a small minority.
Having seen a great deal of this old world, met a lot of people, good and bad, I still like people.
So do I.
As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44
Yes, well, when people openly ridicule me for refusing to endorse the deaths of 10's of thousands of innocent people to further 2A activism, it gets me worked up.
There you go again.
What the hell are you talking about?
Please, there is a 12-step program somewhere, probably even online, that will be of great assistance to you if you apply yourself.
Yes, well, when people openly ridicule me for refusing to endorse the deaths of 10's of thousands of innocent people to further 2A activism, it gets me worked up. (I'll refer you to my hypothetical thread:)
Neil... I do not see the word "shill" in there anywhere.
If apology is beyond you, not a problem. It just seems that I and others here had greatly misjudged you.
Bozo Rank: Number of Full and/or Introductory members who have bozo'd you: 1
Maybe it's because I swear too much.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
Will you accept a , even though it is store bought and not home made?
Yum! Thank you very much!
Carb count overage... ;)
As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44
On LP I am on 6 member's lists. It was 3 for the longest time. I think it went up because I am constantly calling e-type_jag a fag.
Hahahaha 'e_type_fag', I call him.
I have nothing against homosexuals.
I just do it to bug him.
Hahahahaha
Don't tell him that.
Notice not one example of vulgarity?
Unless you count 'fag'.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
Listen, it seems your intellect is sharing the same mud puddle as your morals so I'm going to put you on bozo, okay? Don't take it too hard though. I'll probably take you back off when you get into 6th or 7th grade.
Be good, and tell your mom that your finished using the computer, okay?
I don't have anyone on bozo. I can certainly understand why someone would use it though.
I think people should be nice.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
Listen, it seems your intellect is sharing the same mud puddle as your morals so I'm going to put you on bozo, okay? Don't take it too hard though. I'll probably take you back off when you get into 6th or 7th grade.
Be good, and tell your mom that your finished using the computer, okay?
If you are the standard bearer for 'intellect' as it goes for the 'resistance', I heartily welcome being placed on your filter.
It breaks my heart sometimes to think about what the world has become.
I guess it could be worse.
We still have alot to be happy about.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
In less time than it will take to set a good stock of wine, your children will be chipped-slaves.
Be happy, but understand this is a war and lives, many of them, are at stake.
Ecuador will not even be safe. This is THE stand.
Thank you for your concern.
I don't have any wine.
I can't afford a ticket to Ecuador or I'd likely be there.
Or somewhere warm.
You don't have to explain to me how serious this 'war' is.
This is a war of souls.
The God I pray to will make sure there is justice.
There will be justice.
I won't tell you what my choice would be.
You can probably guess.
People should still be nice.
People like you and I.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
I'm still wondering why they are called leaders, when the clock always moves closer to midnite.
They're called "leaders" because they can bribe enough people to follow them.
Throughout history, take a look at them. Alexander, Caesar, Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Hitler, Lenin - they all promised their followers that they would simply be taken care of and threw enough coin at them to ensure loyalty.
The trick is that people need to have some standards, some ethics, some integrity and say "I cannot be bought."
Until that day, we're doomed to have politicians and other "leaders" running around buying loyalty. Loyalty should be earned, not just given.
But we're not there yet. We don't understand that the way to get something done is to do it. Its too bad.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
In less time than it will take to set a good stock of wine, your children will be chipped-slaves
You don't have to explain to me how serious this 'war' is.
This is a war of souls.
The God I pray to will make sure there is justice.
There will be justice.
I won't tell you what my choice would be.
You can probably guess.
"Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of every day routine- the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration, thereby those important events of the past usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, a celebration of a nice holiday, I thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.
"There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth.
"And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission.
"How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler.
"He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence. Last night I destroyed the Old Bailey, to remind this country of what it has forgotten.
"More than four hundred years ago a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives.
"So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you then I would suggest you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot."
"V"
(This is the only solution I'm afraid. They've left us no other choice. They have ignored our pleas and repudiated our freedoms and Constitution and Bill of Right. There is only one more course of action; albeit not the one we all wanted but our CHILDREN depend on us or they will have NO future)
Ten years ago I became a martyr by falling from a tree locally with lots of folks speaking for me as I lay in a coma.
However I lived and found every utterance I made to be criticized by many of my brethren. For example, in the Boston Tea Party at the Nike store done with people yelling "Remember Ferret Mike" I went down and talked to activists who had done the action, the store workers and my former work colleges at 5th Street Public Market where I nearly died about 10 tears ago.
I was interviewed by the press and I told them a Boston Tea Party was good for the soul, but those doing this action fell down by throwing pumpkins to the fountain level three floors below.
I chided them for the reckless activism as a person stepping out into the courtyard as the pumpkins feel could of been killed.
I was bad vibed, criticized angrily and hated by some of our resident Earth Liberation Front people who were at odds with me already anyway for their poisonous activism. I was told I had criticized out of the activist community and blasted for this alleged 'crime.' So what? I spoke the truth, and in the long run I have gained by doing so.
It was painful, but I am grateful for this experience.
Never forget, to thine own self be true. I never doubt my abilities and don't depend on others to define me.
Live Martyrs piss people off, it's hard to do the talking for them. I am here to tell you though, it sure beats the alternative.
That near fatal fall and how it played to some tempered my resolve never to go to the level of my antagonists. Always be true to your ethical beliefs, opinions and world view.
You have my deepest respect, I have never seen you do anything but be true to your beliefs, ethics, and the truth. It is outstanding to have gotten to know you.
All the time you were ragging us that Paul could not win, we knew that
If you go back to the discussions back then, my problem with RP was not that he could not win but that he could not win as a GOP. I always made that clear. My point is and was that winning is NOT everything. I am not of the kind that wants to see 'a woman' or 'a minority' or 'a GOP' in the White House. Ron Paul could not win the GOP nomination because he was not part of the GOP mainstream while McCain, Romney, Huckabee and Giuliani were and are. I also discussed the harm that Ron Paul was inflicting to the cause of liberty by identifying him and, more importantly, the ideas he stood for, with the GOP and by helping legitimize the eventual winner of the GOP nomination. I am seeing no evidence that I was wrong in any of the above. McCain can now claim that he defeated Ron Paul, fair and square and, by association, the ideas of liberty and respect for the US constitution that Ron Paul exposes. He feels now entitled to ask for the votes of RP's supporters as he is now demanding the support of evangelicals and of paleo conservatives.
I supported Buchanan back in 2000 even though it was clear that he could not win. After the fact, I have many issues with Buchanan today. However, he had the decency and the honesty to quit the GOP back in 2000, while he was running. I currently have a preference for Obama, not because I approve of many of his ideas but because he is clearly preferable to the other 2 'choices' available. He also seems to have the ability to learn from his mistakes and from the mistakes of others and to apply 'lessons learned'. Unlike RP's relation to the GOP, Obama is within his party's mainstream so it's okay for him to run as a Demo. I loathe the Demo ideology of collectivism, homosexualism and big statism and I would not favor any politician just because he was a regimented Demo. I support Obama because he shows visible traces of humanity and because I see hints that he may have the ability to ignore ideology or the party's mandates when dealing with reality.
Listen, it seems your intellect is sharing the same mud puddle as your morals so I'm going to put you on bozo, okay? Don't take it too hard though. I'll probably take you back off when you get into 6th or 7th grade.
LOL - it looks like you just bozoed the same contributor I did a few days ago. I believe that you expressed some criticism at the time, mainly for publicly announcing my decision. Now... you've done it yourself and I have no problem with that. :)