"We have bent over backwards for blacks and what we get is Michelle Obama."
'we'?
Anyways, I love Ray Charles, Jimi Hendrix (the true black God) and I hope Obama makes it to the WH. White guys that I like the most include Borges, Stephen King and, to some extent Bruce Willis.
Not true. I never do personal attacks so it's easy not to bozo me. And, symmetrically, I never considered bozoing you because I don't remember you making personal attacks or, if you did, I did not view them as malicious or constant - disagreeing with some of your views is not a good reason for such a severe punishment.
I use the occasional bad word myself, but to use them regularly in a direct personal attack is not acceptable, IMO.
Yertle, BTW, is not who I am talking about. He just annoyed me this morning.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. Thats what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.' Alan Dershowitz
We are ALL strident, ridged and inflexible about some issues, that is human nature, but no cause to turn a deaf ear. That solves nothing.
robin doesn't like me because I'm actually descended from freed slaves owned by the Cherokee and I was trying to get a point across to her but the guilt took over.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
I use the occasional bad word myself, but to use them regularly in a direct personal attack is not acceptable, IMO.
Yertle, BTW, is not who I am talking about. He just annoyed me this morning.
robin... I understand.
Stupid is about the nicest name I have been called here. From there it has been down hill. That does not matter, it is they that are displaying themselves for all to see.
So, I respect your decision but still say it is not a winner. People hate to be ignored, that cuts much deeper than bozoing.
#29. To: FormerLurker, Pinguinite, Jethro Tull, Peppa, FOH, Christine, critter, buckeye, All (#24)
You know Cyni, with all the non-stop slamming of Ron Paul, it really makes sense that you're just a shill. The thought that you never gave a penny to his campaign makes a lot of sense.
In Cyni's defense, I was a huge Ron Paul supporter myself, until I saw a total lack of effort on his part to carry on the campaign.
All...
This was something that Christine and I kept to ourselves, but to clarify any distortions being spread I will say this...
Christine and I collaborated on the Ron Paul effort for 4um. Only the two of us, at my instigation.
I underwrote the entire cost of the intended ad at a cost of nearly $2000, knowing full well the members of 4um would never come up with that amount of money. The talkers and non doers indeed were silent, they know who they are.
I admonished Christine at the time that this effort would indeed show those members that were Americans, and those that were not friends at all, rather they were in hiding, not distressed with our government, but rather just partisans waiting to use 4um.
As a result, I ate several hundred dollars of the cost, which would have been much more had it not been for two Americans that stepped forward to help shoulder the burden. Beyond that was my regular contributions to Paul, so that we might at least have a choice, even though winning was never a possibility.
Only Christine knows the people that contributed and the amounts, the number of contributors vs the talkers on 4um was a sad but true indication between Americans and partisan believers.
When Paul took a dive, and suddenly became a devout republican, only the naive and gullible would have kept sending money. For those that have not done their own research, Paul had done this once before, due to pressure from Pat Buchanan, leaving his supporters in the lurch. It is all on the record for those that care to look.
Nearly a year ago I warned Christine that with passing months, many of our friends would out themselves as partisan believers, not as friends looking for a better government. With that in mind I compiled a list of those that would reveal themselves, that list proved to be 100 per cent correct, except I overlooked three "friends" that have since showed their true colors.
Cynicom posted on 2008-04-17 11:17:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
I'm actually descended from freed slaves owned by the Cherokee
For real?
When I bring up American Indians, I get zero response. I have concluded as such, AI's have no tailcoats to ride to the halls of opressive power over others, therefore, ignorable and unimportant. American history books may one day never mention them.
As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44
Did you ever get an apology for being called a shill?
As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44
I saw your post yesterday Cyni. It was a good effort and helping create and pay for the advertisement was an excellent exercise. Watching it not be published as promised was another sort of lesson.
I still do not like the Union-Leader and probably never will.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. Thats what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.' Alan Dershowitz
For real and documented. Family members were putting together a family tree last year and unearthed this. It took them six months of "No way!" and researching back through the Dawes Rolls to confirm it.
Oddly enough, everyone in this generation looks pretty Irish.
So, its a bit of a surprise but does it matter? Only to a left-wing racist who would want to put me on a "program" to "make up" for "historical wrongs" - BAH!
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
I've been consistent on RP. I stated from the beginning that his run as a GOP was poisonous to the cause of liberty and it did not deserve support even though I didn't disagree with most of RP's views. I also stated that there was at least one view I disagreed with: his pronouncement that 'the American people' had no responsibility whatsoever for the Iraq disaster.
Well you had answered my posts since the 1 bozo appeared so I knew it wasn't you. As contentious as the AGW threads got I didn't get the impression there was any residual bad feelings. After that last one though I think it was angle that put me on bozo. I wasn't sure but recently they replied to a thread I started but the reply didn't go to me but ALL. I figured it was because of the bozo thing. Who knows? Could have been anyone. Hadn't made a difference in my life really.
Thought for the day: Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'
The same paper screwed up with another RP ad just the week before.
Two in a row, seems very odd to me.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. Thats what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.' Alan Dershowitz
Yes, I read that. You are a National Treasure imo.
There are a couple posters and many lurkers on here, among others that do not blog that joined with us in putting up several billboards across America for Ron Paul's campaign.
There were NO public requests for funding (see: NH ads, Blimps, etc.) so no one would be put off or put out.
We simply did what had to be done and made it happen, damn the consequences.
Very, VERY few of them lurk/post on 4um now since the faux patriots put on the vacuum utensils for the racist, Marxist NAUer-puppet. I wish I were reporting differently, but those are the facts.
Now, at least 1/2 of the most 'aggressive' posters around here are pimping for the cabal.
It is easy to get worked up sometimes. I've never messed with bozo before. For right now, I'm enjoying it.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. Thats what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.' Alan Dershowitz
Did you ever get an apology for being called a shill? Neil is not gentleman enough to do so.
Shame. I was ridiculed for being unclear in a comment, and I apologized for falling short. It's not that hard to do. You just say, sorry, and try to move on.
Sometimes people will over-correct and pretend their wheel never hit the dirt.
As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44
If you say so. But they did have the same problem with Lyman's big RP ad the previous weekend, as you know.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. Thats what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.' Alan Dershowitz
By the way, if you bankrolled that RP ad, I find your efforts laudable and admirable. I have respect for those who act their beliefs. I even respect the terrorists who are willing to die and do die for their cause even when their views are completely different from mine.
Now, at least 1/2 of the most 'aggressive' posters around here are pimping for the cabal.
I did not mind the demeaning names, nor vulgar language, but to be called a shill by someone that had zero knowledge of what Christine and I had done was a bit much.
Christine and I took the heat and said nothing. To repeat, I told her we would not cover the cost from members, that we knew, then I compiled a list of people that would come out of hiding and be partisan members of some sort. I have been around politics more than a day or two. I do know people, the talkers and the doers.
For real and documented. Family members were putting together a family tree last year and unearthed this. It took them six months of "No way!" and researching back through the Dawes Rolls to confirm it.
Oddly enough, everyone in this generation looks pretty Irish.
So, its a bit of a surprise but does it matter? Only to a left-wing racist who would want to put me on a "program" to "make up" for "historical wrongs" - BAH!
First thanks for responding... What a great story to know. It's so interesting when a family member brings something to you that you would never imagine. Something similar happened to me, but in diverse ways on both sides of my own family. It was strange how I found my mind grabbing info, grasping for perspective that was very different than what I thought I 'knew'.
Oddly enough, everyone in this generation looks pretty Irish.
:) I was the only one that did. LOLOL!! Makes ya wonder at family picture time...
So, its a bit of a surprise but does it matter? Only to a left-wing racist who would want to put me on a "program" to "make up" for "historical wrongs" - BAH!
It matters *when* victimology decides who DESERVES priority. As if your blood is less important. As if, compensation comes in the form of oppressing others. As if, that's what we really need or want. As if, that would bring the peace and harmony they preach would be achieved through political means.
BAH!
As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Very, VERY few of them lurk/post on 4um now since the faux patriots put on the vacuum utensils for the racist, Marxist NAUer-puppet. I wish I were reporting differently, but those are the facts.
that is the reason, i am sure for some, but i also think that when Ron Paul quit, a lot of people who had some hope are now hopeless and because of it have given up on politics and posting on forums.
lot of people who had some hope are now hopeless and because of it have given up on politics and posting on forums.....in favor of more hopeful and fruitful pursuits.......
"Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of every day routine- the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration, thereby those important events of the past usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, a celebration of a nice holiday, I thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.
"There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth.
"And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission.
"How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler.
"He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence. Last night I destroyed the Old Bailey, to remind this country of what it has forgotten.
"More than four hundred years ago a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives.
"So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you then I would suggest you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot."
Very, VERY few of them lurk/post on 4um now since the faux patriots put on the vacuum utensils for the racist, Marxist NAUer-puppet. I wish I were reporting differently, but those are the facts.
that is the reason, i am sure for some, but i also think that when Ron Paul quit, a lot of people who had some hope are now hopeless and because of it have given up on politics and posting on forums.
My inner circle is moved by stopping the NAU, because it is THE most pressing and dire threat barreling towards US, not by the bogus selection process.
Ron Paul was the most deserving of our support for many reasons, however for some, we believed he was willing to at least pretend to be running a Victory campaign (as impossible as it was) as opposed to a short Message campaign.
Of course, RP's treatment and subsequent dive only confirmed, at different levels, what we already knew.
It is time to STOP with the cabal-pimping and prepare people for what is in que right now and aiming straight for US.
To see prominent posters, who make up a near majority of total posts, flip from Ron Paul to the cabal is, well, disconcerting.
Especially the posters that other very prominent 4um-ers claim to have known for a long haul as "Constitutionalists" that are now hell bent on w*****g for a racist Marxist World Orderist-NAUer.
:) I was the only one that did. LOLOL!! Makes ya wonder at family picture time...
Well, this explained two mysteries to me.
My father's hair and my grandfather's nose -- as well as why the family fortune was used to start up one of the HBCs (Historically Black Colleges).
It all falls into place now. It raised a lot of "WTF?" and other angst the first month or so after it had been verified, but after that, its just a lot of "Meh, ok, that's interesting." - it doesn't change anything as far as I'm concerned. Maybe that's for the best.
But...gheesh, the way to get over racial disharmony is to get over racial disharmony. Its sad people can't figure that one out.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.