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Title: WE ARE CHANGE L.A. holds up 9/11 sign, CHP tells them it's illegal. (Video)
Source: YOUTUBE- WEARECHANGELA
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYCA5W78cYU
Published: Apr 20, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-04-20 06:09:50 by Artisan
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Comments: 33

PART 1: WeAreChangeLA 4-11-08 freeway blogging

Added: April 15, 2008 We reached out to hundreds of rush hour drivers with our beautiful brand new banner (5' x 21' CHECK IT OUT!!), until the CHP showed up an hour into our truth action.

The CHP officer violated our First Amendment rights by insisting that we leave the bridge. We reluctantly complied, but that's not the end of the story... Stay tuned for what happens next in PART 2!


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Cop keeps telling the cameraman 'put the camera down', and when asked what law forbids them from holding signs, he tells the sign holders they will be charged with PC 148 if they don't comply, completely bogus: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/appndxa/penalco/penco148.htm Penal Code Resisting, Delaying, or Obstructing Officer 148. (a) (1) Every person who willfully resists, delays, or obstructs any public officer, peace officer, or an emergency medical technician, as defined in Division 2.5 (commencing with Section 1797) of the Health and Safety Code, in the discharge or attempt to discharge any duty of his or her office or employment, when no other punishment is prescribed, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, or by both that fine and imprisonment Subscribe to *9-11*

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#5. To: Artisan (#0) (Edited)

Their hearts were in the right place, but the banner wasn't.

imo it is not a good idea to distract drivers. People have a hard enough time as it is, just keeping it between the ditches. No point making it even more risky.

If I had been a cop, that is what I would have told them. But they seem to prefer being unreasonable and, in general, dicks.

PSUSA  posted on  2008-04-20   6:58:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: PSUSA (#5)

That's a BS excuse. billboards are 10 times bigger than the sign.

its not cops jobs to prevent 'potential' hypothetical scenarios. do you agree with banning cell phones while driving like CA has done? No evidence they cause accidents either, just emotionalism nanny-state attitudes.

the cop never did answer what specific law forbade them from holding a sign. the law he cited is bogus.

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-20   7:17:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#8)

That's a BS excuse. billboards are 10 times bigger than the sign.

Yes, but people know billboards are there. They are on the sides of the highways and it takes a conscious effort to read them.

The banner they used was not so easy to ignore. THey wanted to create a scene to help their cause (which I also believe in). It could have been handled better, both from the demonstrators side and the LEO side.

You said "its not cops jobs to prevent 'potential' hypothetical scenarios. "

OK then, dont arrest DUIs anymore. The DUI didnt cause an accident, yet... But having seen the bodies covered with tarps on more than 1 occasion, and people laying dead on the shoulder, and lots of trashed cars that you just know has at least 1 dead body in it, I have seen the results of nitwits behind the wheel.

It's not a game. We lose almost as many people in 1 year on the road as we lost in 10 years of Viet Nam.

"do you agree with banning cell phones while driving like CA has done? No evidence they cause accidents either, just emotionalism nanny-state attitudes. "

I dont know enough about it to comment. If there is no evidence, what studies can you cite?

"the cop never did answer what specific law forbade them from holding a sign. the law he cited is bogus. "

The law is genuine, the application was bogus, IMO. There are also laws against creating traffic hazards. CA is rather scrict about that. Why he didn't cite them, I don't know.

PSUSA  posted on  2008-04-20   7:49:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#12. To: PSUSA (#11)

no, DUI is illegal in itself and is not a non crime. whereas, holding the banner is not a crime. with that logic the state could ban all protests under the guise of 'preventing (enter here,_______catastrophe XYZ'

as far as the phones, i dont need to cite evidence of no danger, they should have to cite evidence to justify their 'law'.

The law the cop cited was not even related to what the people were doing. he couldnt cite a real cause because there was none. he should be arrested, actually, not them.

Artisan  posted on  2008-04-20 07:55:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: PSUSA (#11)

Are you a goat or a sheep?

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