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Title: Attacks Fly Fast and Furious With Less Than 2 Days to Go to Pa.
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Published: Apr 20, 2008
Author: Fox News
Post Date: 2008-04-20 22:23:50 by robin
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Sunday was no day of rest for either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, who each spent the day in Pennsylvania clamoring for any remaining votes as well as trying to dent their opponent’s image heading into Tuesday’s voting. And presumptive Republican nominee John McCain also came to the foreground as the candidates sought show they would be the best in November against the Arizona senator as well as to put a stop to any Democrats who might be thinking about voting for the other team. Speaking in Reading, Pa., Obama told an audience that “either Democrat would be better than John McCain. … And all three of us would be better than George Bush.” Seeing an opening, Clinton pounced on those words when she spoke later at a rally in Johnstown, Pa. “Senator Obama said today that John McCain would be better for the country than George Bush,” Clinton said. “Now, Senator McCain is a real American patriot who has served our country with distinction, but Senator McCain would follow the same failed policies that have been so wrong for our country the last seven years.” “We need a nominee who will take on John McCain, not cheer on John McCain. And I will be that nominee,” Clinton said in a speech in which she also touched on health care, jobs, the war, college costs and energy prices. For its part, the McCain campaign said Obama’s remark just proves McCain’s the right man for the job. Said Tucker Bounds, a McCain spokesman: “The remark underscores that John McCain has the strength to change America and move this nation forward. Barack Obama is a new face who represents old ideas.” It has been six weeks since any votes have been cast in the Democratic nomination and Clinton now faces a test in which she must not only win Tuesday’s vote, but continue to win by strong enough margins to regain the lead in the delegate count. Clinton has 1,507 delegates to Obama’s 1,645. They both need 2,025 to win. There are 158 pledged delegates at stake in Pennsylvania. The latest RealClearPolitics.com average of recent polls puts Clinton ahead by a scant 5.6 percent in a state where she once led Obama by nearly 20 points. Some observers say Clinton must at least win by double digits in the Keystone State if she wants to have a chance at taking the nomination. Meanwhile, the campaign rhetoric between the two has ratcheted up to a fever pace. Sunday the two candidates traded barbs as they pounded through the Keystone State in a blitz for votes in the final hours before voting begins. Health care, the economy, honesty and the question over who has the least questionable associations highlighted the candidates’ attacks on each other, and the two unveiled new advertisements aimed at crippling one another. “She’s taken more money from lobbyists and special interest than any candidate, Republican or Democrat. … When you ask yourself why it is that we don’t have health care that everyone can count on, think that drug and insurance companies have spent a billion dollars in the last 10 years in lobbying and contributions and PR, so it’s surprising that laws that are passed in Washington are good for them, but not as good for you,” Obama said in Reading. In Bethlehem, Pa., Clinton reminded her audience of the stakes later this week, and chided Obama for negative remarks. “This week, we had a debate and it showed you the choice you have. And it’s no wonder that my opponent has been so negative these last few days of the campaign. Because I think you saw a big — you saw a big difference between us. It’s really a choice of leadership,” Clinton said. “I’m offering leadership you can count on.” The two also blanketed the state with attack ads. “In the last 10 years Barack Obama has taken almost $2 million from lobbyists, corporations and PACs. The head of his New Hampshire campaign is a drug company lobbyist, in Indiana an energy lobbyist, a casino lobbyist in Nevada,” said a new Clinton commercial airing in the campaign’s final days. If anything, Obama upped the ante with his rebuttal. His ad said he “doesn’t take money from special interest PACs or Washington lobbyists — not one dime.” Clinton does, it added, and accused her of “eleventh-hour smears paid for by lobbyist money.” Clinton also has sought to paint Obama as elitist following remarks he made about small town voters, while Obama’s campaign has jumped on a recent poll showing new erosion among voters’ belief in Clinton’s honesty. Obama also has been forced to distance himself from his bombastic former pastor, and Clinton had to admit misspeaking about a trip to Kosovo in her husband’s administration. In the meantime, campaign surrogates handicapped their candidate’s chances on the Sunday talk circles. Clinton supporter Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., says the race isn’t a lock, but Pennsylvania and the next-biggest remaining prize, Indiana, are in her sights. “I think that she’s going to do very well in Pennsylvania, and I think she’s going to better than either the polls, which have always underestimated her, or the pundits have stated,” Schumer said on “FOX News Sunday.” Predicting a win by a “significant amount” in Pennsylvania, she added: “I think she’s going to win in Indiana. And I think that she has momentum, and you’re going to see people saying Hillary Clinton is the best candidate to both beat John McCain.” Clinton’s newly appointed chief strategist Geoff Garin suggested the New York senator will continue her campaign no matter what the outcome on Pennsylvania primary day. “We’re going to let the process play through,” Garin said during an interview Sunday on NBC’s Meet the Press. And though he acknowledged that Clinton will have to “do well” in the remaining contests, Garin stressed that “neither candidate will have enough pledged delegates when the last votes are cast on June 3.” He also advised that unpledged superdelegates wait until the last contest to cast their votes. But, also on “FOX News Sunday,” Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill. — an Obama supporter — said the odds are stacked against Clinton. “The math is very unforgiving at this point when it comes to delegate counts, and that’s what it’s all about,” Durbin said. “Senator Clinton needs more than 60 percent of the vote in Pennsylvania. … If you look at the remaining contests, you understand that the Clinton campaign is running out of real estate. There are only a handful of states left. She needs over 60 percent of the vote in each one of them to catch up with Barack Obama,” Durbin said. But the question of whether Clinton should step aside should be up to her, and her alone, said Obama’s chief campaign strategist David Axelrod, who appeared alongside Garin. “I don’t believe anyone should tell Senator Clinton to get out of the race,” said Axelrod, who criticized Clinton on a wide range of issues. The two campaigns are also attacking each other on the airwaves, although Obama has been outspending his rival about 2-to-1. The Clinton campaign was sore after a new Obama ad released this weekend that criticized Clinton’s health care proposal because, Obama’s ad said, Clinton’s plan mandates people to have health insurance, and would penalize those who do not. Clinton responded Saturday: “I just heard that my opponent has put up an ad attacking my health care plan, which is kind of curious, because my plan covers of everybody, and his plan leaves out 15 million. … Now instead of attacking the problem, he chooses to attack my solution. Obama Saturday night in Lancaster focused on on the subject of NAFTA, saying Clinton supported it during her husband’s administration, but then has come out against it during the campaign. “She can talk about supporting NAFTA when … her husband’s president. And she says, you know, she’s out there campaigning for it, and then suddenly she’s running for president and says she opposes it,” Obama said. FOX News’ Bonney Kapp and Aaron Bruns and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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#1. To: Cynicom (#0)
ping
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
I liked this... We just may get all three.
Then the witch tried to make it out that he was saying McCain would be better than Bush - which is not what he said. He was emphasizing how bad Bush is.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
We still may get all three. Clinton/Obama is a sure winner. McKooK/Clinton would also be a sure winner.
Hillary's toast. Why would Obama want all that baggage? He can do better than someone with such high negatives.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Heh heh heh...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Toast???? Obama by himself is a loser, big time. Therefore his best bet would be as VP and then perhaps in eight years on his own. From nowhere to president will never happen. Look at the Fox photo with this story, Hillary and all whites, no blacks. Reverse it and you see Obama with mostly blacks and a scattering of whites. Those photos do not bend or twist reality. Now put them campaigning together, a winner.
Key phrase. Now look at these home photos... 'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
That's exactly what he said. You are obviously blind when it comes to this racist.
God is always good!
Not according to the latest polls.
God is always good!
Would you say they are staged photo ops????? Fox did not do that.
Fox has an agenda. The photos from Lancaster, PA from a local supporter are not staged.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
www.democraticunderground...w_all&address=132x5585610 DU? You can't get much lower then DU as a source. What are you doing on DU for anyway?
God is always good!
Thanks for the link. Great photos.
Nothing more than a managed, staged photo ops. I have been at a Clinton public appearance. It was 90 per cent women, no blacks and very few men. No way to salt the audience.
Women are the majority though. Even though they like to say they are a minority.
God is always good!
Hillary has already lost, and she knows it; but seems intent to pull Obama down with her. Really disgusting. This is apparently what has so many Superdelegates angry with her (at least that's what I've read recently).
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
I asked a lady what Hillary had to say, she thought for a moment then replied, "I dont remember what she said, but she said it well"...... Years afore that I did the same at a RFK gig and got almost the same answer from a lady.
Considering the delegates from Florida and Michigan did not go to either candidate becasue they were "penalized" for moving their primaries up this one is still very much up in the air. Since Hillary won Florida easily and Michigan, then she still has a legitimate shot at the nomination with the super delegates. Also she has a one point lead now among democrats nationally over Obama. Hillary is still very much in this race for the nomination.
God is always good!
If Obama is VP will you vote for them????
Won't happen. I won't vote for Hillary.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Even tho Obama would be VP and next in line for the presidency????
That's good to hear. It's too bad you are going to vote for someone just as bad her though.
God is always good!
I'm sure she either wants the nomination or a McCain win to give her another shot at making it.
It is not beyond the realm of possibility that Clinton would run with McKooK. Sure winner if she did and she is younger than him. Myself I see Clinton/Obama as a sure winner and just maybe the powers that be in the party will enforce a sure winner.
Maybe that's what's going on. Her party is not happy with her.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Tuesday nite is a decider. Either one wins by a point, no decision, if either wins by more than 5 points, the other will be done.
I think Obama is going to win but Hillary is going to be the nominee. (Sounds like a Yogi Berra comment doesn't it?)
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
It would be good if Tuesday night did decide it. I am getting tired of the non-stop Obama posts around here. Freedom and Obama don't go together in my opinion.
God is always good!
The votes are rigged.
Actually it sounds like you've been celebrating 4-20 with some pretty diggity dank bud.
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"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
420 (cannabis culture) 4:20 or 4/20 (pronounced four-twenty) is a term used in North America as a way to refer to the consumption of cannabis and, by extension, a way to identify oneself with the drug subculture around cannabis. Phrases such as "420 friendly" sometimes appear in roommate advertisements, indicating that the current occupants are tolerant of cannabis users. Origins and observances lol
I was over at a friend's house where he has a legal grow for people who have hired him to cultivate their Medical Cannabis for them. Beautiful plants, It did my heart good to see, smell and touch them. I would of partaken myself, but I have had a nasty cold all weekend and couldn't partake in a rare treat. I don't smoke anymore as I am doing so many miles on the bicycle to be fit to keep racing at my age group. Happy 4/20 by the way. In the Whiteaker Neighborhood in Eugene where I live, this is a major holiday. ;-)
Remember Kerry's botched joke in 2006 about lousy students getting "stuck in Iraq?" (Kerry had intended to needle Bush for "getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.") The fallout helped dash Kerry's hopes of another White House run. In the minds of his supporters, that's precisely what Hillary Clinton intended when she piled on two days later, calling the comment "inappropriate." Many Kerry people were pissed off at Hillary for putting her boot on his neck. Once Kerry officially bowed out, several of his most loyal money men decamped for team Obama. The bitch has been planning this run since decamping from the White House with the china and other goods. She never ran for senator to be a senator, she did it to give herself the status to run for an office the Clintons feel they are entitled to. I want her out of the race so bad it makes me sweat thinking about it.
I feel that way about all three. 4/20 ;)
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Any support of any of the three remaining people is support for continuation of this government, its war policy abroad and its repression at home.
Peter Tosh - Legalize it live And a good 4/20 to you too. ;-)
I dig it man!!! Thanks!
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx
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#2. To: robin (#1)
Speaking in Reading, Pa., Obama told an audience that “either Democrat would be better than John McCain. … And all three of us would be better than George Bush.”
#3. To: Cynicom (#2)
#4. To: robin (#3)
. He was emphasizing how bad Bush is.
#5. To: Cynicom (#4)
#6. To: robin (#0)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#7. To: robin (#5)
Hillary's toast. Why would Obama want all that baggage? He can do better than someone with such high negatives.
#8. To: Cynicom (#7)
Look at the Fox photo with this story,
#9. To: robin, *Racist 2008* (#3)
Then the witch tried to make it out that he was saying McCain would be better than Bush - which is not what he said.
#10. To: robin (#5)
Hillary's toast.
#11. To: robin (#8)
#12. To: Cynicom (#11)
#13. To: robin (#8)
Now look at these home photos...
#14. To: robin (#12)
Obama for president 2008
#15. To: robin (#12)
Fox has an agenda. The photos from Lancaster, PA from a local supporter are not staged.
#16. To: Cynicom (#15)
It was 90 per cent women, no blacks and very few men. No way to salt the audience.
#17. To: Cynicom (#15)
#18. To: RickyJ (#16)
#19. To: robin (#17)
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Hillary has already lost, and she knows it;
#20. To: robin (#17)
Hillary has already lost,
#21. To: Cynicom (#20)
#22. To: robin (#21)
Won't happen. I won't vote for Hillary.
#23. To: robin (#21)
Won't happen. I won't vote for Hillary.
#24. To: robin (#17)
Obama for president 2008
#25. To: Ferret Mike (#24)
#26. To: Ferret Mike (#24)
#27. To: robin (#26)
#28. To: Cynicom, robin (#27)
#29. To: Cynicom (#27)
Tuesday nite is a decider.
#30. To: robin (#0)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#31. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#28)
Obama for president 2008
#32. To: Ferret Mike (#31)
4-20
#33. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#32)
Although many diverse theories exist to explain the origin of the term, one central root of the phrase stems from a group of teenagers at San Rafael High School in San Rafael, California in 1971; the teens would meet after school at 4:20 p.m. to smoke cannabis at the Louis Pasteur statue. The term became part of their group's salute, "420 Louis!", and became popularized in the late 1980s by fans of The Grateful Dead. Many North American cannabis users continue to observe 4:20 as a time to smoke communally. By extension April 20 ("4/20" in U.S. dating shorthand) has evolved into a counterculture holiday, where people gather to celebrate and consume cannabis. In some locations this celebration coincides with Earth Week.
Obama for president 2008
#34. To: Ferret Mike (#33)
(pronounced four-twenty)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#35. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#32)
Obama for president 2008
#36. To: Ferret Mike, Itisa1mosttoolate (#33)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#37. To: robin (#26)
Maybe that's what's going on. Her party is not happy with her.
Obama for president 2008
#38. To: Ferret Mike (#37)
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#39. To: RickyJ (#29)
#40. To: IndieTX (#38)
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Obama for president 2008
#41. To: Ferret Mike (#40)
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
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