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Title: Bob Barr seeks Libertarian Party nomination
Source: Desert Dispatch
URL Source: http://www.desertdispatch.com/opini ... ml/libertarian_nomination.html
Published: Apr 20, 2008
Author: Carol Jensen
Post Date: 2008-04-21 15:13:47 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 219
Comments: 16

Bob Barr seeks Libertarian Party nomination

April 20, 2008 - 11:26AM

Former Republican Congressman turned Libertarian Bob Barr has announced that he is forming a presidential exploratory committee. His decision to make this third-party run may be bad news for the Republican nominee John McCain, but good news for conservatives everywhere.

The true conservative candidates who sought the nomination in the Republican race were unable to make it to the top of the heap, leaving the conservative base without one of their own to rally around.

And with polls indicating that Barr is considered the frontrunner in a field that numbers about 10, and the candidate most likely to claim the Libertarian nomination next month at the convention in Denver, the Republicans may be faced with their own version of the Nader effect.

In a Washington Times report, GOP campaign pollster John McLaughlin said a Barr bid wouldn’t be good for the presumptive Republican nominee. “It takes more points from us than Nader takes from them,” McLaughlin said.

Libertarian Party Executive Director Shane Cory points out in an article on LP.org that, “For far too long Americans felt it necessary to waste their vote for the ‘lesser of two evils’ just for the sake of not crossing partisan lines. That’s not how our elections should be. Americans are tired of the status quo politics and want a candidate in who they can believe — not just a candidate who will do the least amount of harm.”

Bob Barr became well known nationally in the 1990’s for being a leader in the Clinton impeachment push. His political career has been centered around his advocacy for smaller government, lower taxes, strict adherence to the Constitution (including the entire Bill of Rights), and last but not least a strict adherence to the rule of law.

With so many conservative voters feeling disaffected over the last several years, Barr’s possible candidacy has garnered more national attention. His platform will not only include limiting government, but defending civil liberties during the ongoing “war on terror,” and opposing pre-emptive wars and nation-building. He also objects to the current interpretation of presidential powers, with the other governmental branches seemingly powerless to limit it.

Barr’s strongest criticism has come from some on the “right” for his work with the ACLU defending the Fourth Amendment. He was outspoken and critical of the Patriot Act, asserting its infringement upon civil liberties.

He has been a member of the Libertarian Party since 2006. According to FITNews, Barr will receive the endorsement of Texas Republican GOP presidential candidate and fellow Libertarian Ron Paul. Paul ran on the Libertarian ticket in 1988, and maintains that he will not run as a third-party candidate this year.

Founded in 1971 as an alternative to the Republican and the Democratic parties, the Libertarian Party is America’s third largest political party.

The Libertarian Party saw an increase in membership of 28 percent by the end of 2007, as was reported by LP.org. The popularity of Ron Paul and his campaign success across the country, along with much dissatisfaction in both the Republican, as well as the Democratic parties, has attracted much interest in Libertarianism.

After eight long years of the Bush Administration many conservatives and others are angry and even bitter about the direction the country is going, and if Bob Barr gets the Libertarian Party’s nomination, many on the “right” will have the option of casting their votes for a candidate who supports traditional conservative values.

ABOUT THE WRITER Carol Jensen is a long-time Barstow resident, graduating from Kennedy High School and Barstow College, where she was an English instructor for many years. Much of her time now is spent writing political and social commentary. She may be contacted at cajensen49@msn.com.

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#1. To: aristeides (#0)

Bob Barr might be a good choice. I would have to investigate him more before voting for him though.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-04-21   15:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: aristeides (#0) (Edited)

Don Quixote, izzat you?

Campaign Slogan: Tilting at Windmills.

Another doomed 3rd party ego fueled campaign.

Unless the Libertarian or any other party with any ambitions is going to work hard getting councilmen, mayors and state reps elected, these campaigns of theirs are just an exercise in futiliy.

Who's going to trust a party that has no elected officials anywhere in the country?

Hell, even the Greens do a better job by starting off nabbing municipal slots.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-04-21   15:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: swarthyguy (#2) (Edited)

Could be a good way to divert votes from McCain, and exercise influence over future Republican policies.

Plus, a President Obama, if he's as interested as he says he is in building coalitions, might well make overtures to Barr and other leaders of a movement for him once he is inaugurated.

I voted for Nader over Kerry in 2004, because he was much more clearly anti-war. Plus, I figured that I had the luxury of being able to vote third-party, since Kerry was going to take my state of Maryland easily, whatever I did.

I may end up thinking along similar lines this year. Depends, to a large extent, on how clearly anti-war Obama ends up being, and how much or how little I disagree with his other policies.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-21   15:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: swarthyguy (#2)

Who's going to trust a party that has no elected officials anywhere in the country?

Who trusts what we now have?

It's time for a clean sweep of all of'em.

Lod  posted on  2008-04-21   15:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: aristeides (#0)

With so many conservative voters feeling disaffected over the last several years, Barr’s possible candidacy has garnered more national attention. His platform will not only include limiting government, but defending civil liberties during the ongoing “war on terror,” and opposing pre-emptive wars and nation-building. He also objects to the current interpretation of presidential powers, with the other governmental branches seemingly powerless to limit it.

Barr’s strongest criticism has come from some on the “right” for his work with the ACLU defending the Fourth Amendment. He was outspoken and critical of the Patriot Act, asserting its infringement upon civil liberties.

Have to look up his record.

As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-21   15:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Peppa (#5)

Barr’s strongest criticism has come from some on the “right” for his work with the ACLU defending the Fourth Amendment. He was outspoken and critical of the Patriot Act, asserting its infringement upon civil liberties.

You think his defense of the Fourth Amendment might count against him?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-21   15:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: aristeides (#3)

I had the luxury of being able to vote third-party

As a Massachusetts resident, where Dems have won over 2 to 1 in the past two Presidential elections, I do have a glorious throwaway vote.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-04-21   15:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: aristeides (#6)

You think his defense of the Fourth Amendment might count against him?

Not for constitutionalists.

The 'righty' criticism is bogus. That had to come from Neocons of a feather.

As a country, the USA has deeply injured the world and it's a national obligation to right that wrong as much as possible. For us to try to safeguard our 2nd Amendment rights at the expense of lives of innocents worldwide doesn't fly in my book. -- Pinguinite http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78060&Disp=44#C44

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-21   15:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: aristeides (#0) (Edited)

Bob Barr seeks Libertarian Party nomination

I have a hard time trusting Barr. He's not only been a lifetime supporter of the WOD, he was a zealot. Now all of a sudden he claims to be against it. He and Neil Boortz used to go toe-to-toe on this issue.

Then again, Boortz has become a neocon and Bush apologist, so I guess it's not outside the realm of possibility that he changed his mind. Maybe working with the ACLU has given him a new perspective.

Regardless, if he is the LP nominee, then he will get my vote.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-04-21   17:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Hayek Fan (#9)

"Regardless, if he is the LP nominee, then he will get my vote."

Typical Party Apparatchik...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-21   17:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Mudboy Slim (#10)

Typical Party Apparatchik...MUD

Nope. There is no one else to vote for. McLame will not get my vote and neither will the Democratic candidate. Nadar is as much as leftist as the R and D candidate so he's out. I don't think the CP has ever fielded a candidate in my state and it doesn't appear that this year will be any different. If I am wrong and they do run a candidate then I will take a close look at him/her.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-04-21   18:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Hayek Fan (#9)

He's not only been a lifetime supporter of the WOD, he was a zealot. Now all of a sudden he claims to be against it. He and Neil Boortz used to go toe-to-toe on this issue.

Well, it's been decades since I could have been called a supporter of the WOD. I've wanted to see drugs legalized or at least decriminalized for a long time, but I was never a zealot on the issue. I could live with not having things go my way on it. What I considered the police state methods used for the WOD didn't really affect me, since I didn't use drugs, and, as far as I knew, neither did anybody close to me.

The past decade has given us a chance to see the police state methods first used in the WOD extended to all sorts of other uses. Maybe I'm not threatened personally yet, but I think it's gotten a lot closer to me. So I oppose the WOD a good deal more firmly.

Maybe Barr has undergone a similar development, for much the same reasons.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-21   18:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: aristeides (#0)

How's this for a fantasy:

Democrat and Republican voters alike, sick and tired of the same old shit, come out in the dozens of millions in November and vote Green and Libertarian, relegating the Repukes and Dims to the dustbin of history.

Tagline space for rent.

Critter  posted on  2008-04-21   18:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: aristeides (#12)

Maybe Barr has undergone a similar development, for much the same reasons.

You make a very good point. I would think that as a lawyer for the ACLU after leaving Congress, Barr has had an opportunity to see some real abuses being perpetrated by the government in the name of the WOD. If you are a lawyer who truly loves the law and believes it to be the foundation of a civilized society, then such abuses must have been eye opening.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-04-21   19:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Hayek Fan (#14)

I'm a lawyer too. Even though my specialty is tax and pension law, where I don't get to see the government's current civil liberties abuses at close hand, I do believe in the rule of law, as I think most lawyers do. (Except for neocon hacks.) So I have been horrified, even at a distance. As I suspect the overwhelming majority of lawyers have been.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-21   19:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: aristeides (#15)

As I suspect the overwhelming majority of lawyers have been.

It's a shame bordering on criminal that the ABA hasn't come together as a body to condemn the lawlessness of the Bush administration.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-04-22   0:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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