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Title: Hillary wins PA - Guns and Bibles tell Obama to take a hike
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Published: Apr 22, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-04-22 20:52:37 by Jethro Tull
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Must be a mistake. I see Fox also says she won.
Now we have to listen to a week of BS from our O'Piles as to why it doesnt mean anything.
Hillarious stuff. The lesser socialists won, so I guess that's good?
Americans lose again. When you get time explain to ghost and Ari what an American is. Their comprehension is lousy.
If Obummer loses, I will bring in a large basket of crying towels for our white guilt friends here.
More accurately, we'll get to listen to a week of whining about how it was STOLEN! and how we are all a pack of RACISTS! The Obama Nation is an abomination.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
America loses no matter who wins.
America loses because we have losers advocating for losers.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Someone is saying Clinton by 6, if so Obummer better get use to riding in the back of Hillarys bus
Onward and upward!!!!! Well now, I just heard it went from too close to call to early to call, and so, then maybe it looks like Hillary big, but then (start tap dance music), maybe not so much.. So, I'm gonna wait till they wave off the backroom cigar smoke to waddle out and tell us who they decided to win and by how much. They're definitely going another thousand rounds......... tv news gotta suck cash from something ya know.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Out here in the hills, our votes are last to be counted and they will not favor O bummer.
With 7% of the vote in: Hillary Clinton 76,544 51.92% America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
I forget who is next, maybe SC. If Obummer calls them redneck crackers it may not go over too well.
That is the vote from downtown Filthydelphia.
NC on May 6. The black vote will give it to Obama.
Out in the sticks, they don't go for the attitude....in Philly, they vote to take your wallet if they can't find you to mug you directly.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Sadly race and gender have ruined this election for President. I fear there is more harm in store as Americans will lose once again.
WEll, U no, he is an outtatowner'n'all.......
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
I think it's NC and IN, on 5/6/08...
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
I am still registered in NC and have a home there, maybe I could hustle on down.
If it were not race and gender, it would be something else to ruin it.
We slack jawed white trash bitter hill billies did not take kindly to that $3000 suit talkin down to we uns.
Maybe, but they got the pumps primed for this showdown.. they have plans long on the design table.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Pennsylvania Republican Primary Update 5 minutes ago County Results --- 9% Reporting 1. McCain 22,827 73% 2. Ron Paul 5,168 16% 3. Huckabee 3,470 11%
My next door neighbor in NC was a staunch democrat, and said she had never voted anything but a straight dem ballot all her life. Somehow, knowing her, I know how she will vote next.
Disgusting, people voting for more war.
Chalk another one up to Diebold. Any of our dogs could have won with Diebold behind them.
How is America going to pay for all of the "new" wars?
Any of our dogs could have won with Diebold behind them. Ah cud teyll. Tha twernt po-light of guests up'n yer neck. U no, sumtimz them edjakatid fellers think manners r fer little folk n if you'uns had mor lernin U cud see U wuz welcome as ants at a pic-a-nic. U ot tu b grateful U wuz graced with hiz botherin' with ya AT all... dang ungrateful hillbillies.....
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
We dont use Diebold here in the hills, we do it the olde fashioned paper way. I will let you know what the results are as there is a paper trail and no cheating.
I'm just hoping Liddy Dole gets knocked off this year. Her replacement probably wouldn't be any great shakes, but at least we'd be rid of Liddy.
Woo Hoo!!
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
That's funny rightthere.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Liddy was a carpet bagger and I voted agin here. She had not been in NC in 40 years.
Woo Hoo!! Pennsylvania Republican Primary Update 4 minutes ago County Results --- 16% Reporting 1. McCain 46,726 72% 2. Ron Paul 10,356 16% 3. Huckabee 7,677 12%
Why with more sacrifice you know. Higher taxes. Pelosi already wants to increase taxes on old folks. I'm sure the tax bracket of the rich will certainly be reformed to a family of 8 with a pack of crackers and 4 pair of shoes.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Hark!!!!!!! Is that the Obummer cheer leading band I hear coming in??????
well done. he had 1500 at PSU at a rally I attended two weeks ago.
Being from NC, you probably remember how Jesse Helms used to do in black precincts. The vote would be something like 1800 to 3 against him. I always figured the 3 just screwed up their ballots. That's why I'm surprised Obama only got 92% of the black vote tonight.
Good to see Paul beating that shyster preacher that swore he would lay down our lives for Israel.
Woo Hoo! What is up with the huck votes? Doh! Crimeny with that percentage imagine how much less ad money could be spent for the comatose vote.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
I only lived there for a few years, would like to go back but olde age says no.
Is that the Obummer cheer leading band I hear coming in?????? Now c'mon now, they're just drooped out from fighting McCain all day. They'll show.. not to worry.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Years ago I lived in New York city, on one election day a TV crew did a street interview, stopped a black man and asked who he was going to vote for. He reached in his pocket pulled out a piece of paper, and said, "this name right here". Jethro will tell you that is not the exception.
Did you vote for hillary, old man?
It's a bloc vote alright. BTW, in 1988 a reporter asked Willie Horton who he was voting for. He replied, "Dukakis, of course."
That's the sound of the men working on the chain gang.
Indeed. Willie's still locked up. He'd probably endorse Obama if some enterprising reporter sought him out.
Pennsylvania Republican Primary Update 6 minutes ago County Results --- 50% Reporting 1. McCain 205,335 72% 2. Ron Paul 45,843 16% 3. Huckabee 34,304 12%
MSNBC exit polls are reporting that 52% of Hillary voters will not vote for Obama, and 29% of Obama voters will not vote for HIllary.
Duuuuuude.
Q: Why will Obama make a great American President? Lets see now, a vote for Obummer is a vote for a loser, is that math correct????
If Clinton clears by 5, Obummer rides in the back.
Looks like 8pts now.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Our resident worms are back in their hidey holes. Now it will be interesting to see how they squirm when Obama has to suck up to Clinton for VP. The worms should be happy as they would win by a landslide, what with the white guilt votes and the en masse black votes.
Pennsylvania Democratic Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 187 County Results --- 83% Reporting 1 Clinton 1,009,683 55% 2 Obama 823,286 45%
Now it will be interesting to see how they squirm when Obama has to suck up to Clinton for VP. The worms should be happy as they would win by a landslide, what with the white guilt votes and the en masse black votes. The polticial guys went from saying white guys were the key to winning, to white women will pack up in a huff if Hillary doesn't win, and that's trouble my friend. Then suddenly, worry and sweatbeads struck. What will we do about those WAMMEN (as Scarborough pronouces it), if they have no place to go?? Oh no! They said, well, there's a wammen in Kansas that might be a good replacement for 'her'. Somehow in the mix, the wammen vote was cast as nasty hags over 50, making less than 50K, and no school papers. ;) What are they going to do? What will they do? I guess Hill snagged the hags, and now Obama is talking about taking on McCain. 4 more years of Bush. Just met a kid TODAY, that didn't have health insurance. I think they pass the scripts back and forth and have no time to figure out why they lost the last state. I guess he doesn't care about the wammen vote now.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Paul doing very well in Pennsylvania. Not bad; for someone who has 'dropped out'.
Pennsylvania Republican Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 74 County Results --- 82% Reporting 1 McCain 418,536 72% 2 Ron Paul 92,747 16% 3 Huckabee 68,353 12%
The moment I read that squib about we dumb white trash by Obama that he had stuck his foot in his mouth. Not very smart to stand there in your $3000 suit and look down your nose at us, especially since you got a free ride thru life, even food stamps.
I wish Paul had stuck it out.
Paul COULD wind up with his highest state primary vote total to date in Pennsylvania tonight...it will be close; he needs just shy of 111,000 to beat California.
Here in the hills we preferred Paul, but once he withdrew, people lost heart.
Well I'll be... YES WE CAN!
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
The worms should be happy as they would win by a landslide, what with the white guilt votes and the en masse black votes. Obummer put his foot in his elitist mouth once, people will be waiting to see if there is a second that would be terminal.
Sad to say but we lose, as all three are born losers. we are stuck with one or two of them for the next four years. What a horrible thought. Of course when Clinton/Obama win and make McKooK Sec. of Def. we are really screwed.
Yeah yeah.. then write him in. :) Hey... huck got votes and he's OUT. You just never know, maybe the comatose vote will break for Paul! Imagine what damage a large Paul vote could do to McCain in the head to head. You'd think the O train would be rooting for paul, to peel off McCains appeal to Indy's and undecideds... pubs even. They have some weird strategery.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
LOL!!! He sort of looks like an ad man for Dish Network.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
LOL 2012 you find the best pictures.
That'll be a tough sell considering that PA is basically a must win for the Demos in Nov.
Dont look now but is looks like some of our Obama friends here on 4um are using the same playbooks, as they use the exact same terms and phraseology. Of course, they figger we unedakated would never notice.
Absolutely. Way to go Pennsylvanians!
Why does Barack Obama suck? I’ll give you 10 good reasons…
I guess so...Paul is going to rack up more than 111,000 votes with no difficulty whatsoever...Pennsylvania. Who'da thunk? Interesting that nearly 30% of REPUBLICANS went to the polls to flip the bird to John McCain.
I envision a day when electeds run for office full time, and never have to cast a vote. Full time panhandler with big time perks.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Obama could have done that awhile ago but now his VP slot might be in jeopardy.
Gov. Rendell weeks ago said Pa would not vote for a black man. For stating a fact and the truth the MSM poured scorn down on his head. Well, Rendell spoke the truth.
Someone on another forum stated that, based on Pennsylvania results; Paul should have dropped out a LONG TIME ago. :-)
Hillary said in her speech that her dad played football for PSU. Of course she could be lying again...
Of course, they figger we unedakated would never notice. They do whut Rush tell's them. We know. Super secret code language special just for them.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Well, Rendell spoke the truth. Looks like Eddie delivered the goods.
Should Clinton go on to win, there are many political democrats that will pay with their blood for supporting Obama. The Clintons take no prisoners.
Hehehehehehe!!! Go Seabiscuit!
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Heeeeee.. Yep to the 10th power. Let's not forget his money from big pharma.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
ROFLMAO!
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Paul just went over 111,000 votes...Paul got more votes in Pennsy tonight than ANY OTHER STATE to date; including California. I have a feeling this turnout for Paul and Huckabee (who DID drop out and endorse McCain) may make the GOP a bit nervous re: their upcoming convention.
Somewhere along the line, Obama is going to have to decide whether he should accept half a loaf of bread, go for the whole loaf or end up with nothing. The odds are against him as candidate for president. If he loses, he will be done forever in national politics. Somewhere along the line someone will have to tell him his 15 minutes are up, take the half a loaf.
The Mulatto From Chicago loses to the Marxist-Leninist Witch: two lesser demons fighting for a level in Hell... "What we do claim is that the northern European, and particularly Anglo-Saxons made this country. Oh, yes; the others helped. But that is the full statement of the case. They came to this country because it was already made as an Anglo-Saxon commonwealth. They added to it, they often enriched it, but they did not make it, and they have not yet greatly changed it. We are determined that they shall not. And what we assert is that we are not going to surrender it to somebody else or allow other people, no matter what their merits, to make it something different. If there is any changing to be done, we will do it ourselves." Rep. William Vaile, Colorado, 1924
It dows show one thing, the pub voters in Pa are not rigid and hide bound like the Obama supporters. Remember many pubs registered dem just to vote against Obama.
Indeed. The Clintons don't remind me of the forgiving "let's kiss and make up" types...
I understand if Clinton wins she will fight for Israel to have "legal" Senators and Congressmen in Washington.
The odds are against him as candidate for president. If he loses, he will be done forever in national politics. Somewhere along the line someone will have to tell him his 15 minutes are up, take the half a loaf. I agree that he should have taken the half loaf and that a Hillary/Obummer ticket would probably be unbeatable. But now Obummer is getting a little risky.
With Obama as VP they will win in a landslide but the white guilters will pay in blood, Richardson for one.
Pennsylvania Republican Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 74 County Results --- 93% Reporting 1 McCain 519,287 72% 2 Ron Paul 114,269 16% 3 Huckabee 82,669 12%
Yaaaaaaay! Yeah, McCain is going to have to find a VP rudy vaselino type, to charm the pants off the voters. Lobbyists aside./s
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Oh Judas is so screwed...
The odds are against him as candidate for president. If he loses, he will be done forever in national politics. Somewhere along the line someone will have to tell him his 15 minutes are up, take the half a loaf. I think he'll take it, but ME-shell will not be happy. She will make him miserable.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Obummer with his mouth has turned off a lot of dem voters who may just sit it out. They do not appreciate having anyone looking down their noses and then asking for votes.
Now at 116,869.
Amazing. Think what he could have done with a full court press in Pa.
Nite all... Broom is tired.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Amazing. Think what he could have done with a full court press in Pa. ...and some media support.
Now at 117,059.
What a waste, the only American running for President. Nite all.
If Obama agrees to run on a ticket with Hitlery I wiil join the ranks of of the rest of the non-voting cynics here.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Don't vote. It just encourages them. ;)
Now at 116,869. The last sorry gasp of the Plutocrat Party?
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
well, join the crowd because that is what you will have. I am sure knowing you, you will find some justification for voting Clinton/Obama.
Pennsylvania Republican Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 74 County Results --- 98% Reporting 1 McCain 562,036 73% 2 Ron Paul 123,870 16% 3 Huckabee 88,500 11%
For those of you believe that the duck hunting Hillary ever raised a shotgun to her shoulder that wasn't pointing at Bill, you'll get what you deserve. Old ladies, fools and racists will wind up putting this odious bitch in the White House.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Pennsylvania Republican Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 74 County Results --- 98% Reporting 1 McCain 569,835 73% 2 Ron Paul 125,144 16% 3 Huckabee 89,310 11%
Old ladies, fools and racists will wind up putting this odious bitch in the White House. QOTD.
"What we do claim is that the northern European, and particularly Anglo-Saxons made this country. Oh, yes; the others helped. But that is the full statement of the case. They came to this country because it was already made as an Anglo-Saxon commonwealth. They added to it, they often enriched it, but they did not make it, and they have not yet greatly changed it. We are determined that they shall not. And what we assert is that we are not going to surrender it to somebody else or allow other people, no matter what their merits, to make it something different. If there is any changing to be done, we will do it ourselves." Rep. William Vaile, Colorado, 1924
Amazing. Think what he could have done with a full court press in Pa. Pennsylvania Republican Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 74 County Results --- 99% Reporting 1 McCain 581,557 73% 2 Ron Paul 127,399 16% 3 Huckabee 90,743 11%
My guess is this is how he was really doing in earlier states. Previously, his numbers looked so made up; they never changed as the voting came in.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
I agree. Ron Paul got the shaft.
Good call. I guess they figure they can publish the real results now that the nom has basically been settled.
Pennsylvania Republican Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 74 County Results --- 99% Reporting 1 McCain 582,645 73% 2 Ron Paul 127,728 16% 3 Huckabee 90,944 11%
73% My guess is Ron Paul is doing better than McCain. Who the ____ would vote for McCain?
That is, I think the results are rigged. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Vitamin Z
Maybe I'll just go research 'Reptilians' or something.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Stalin is laughing his ass off at that remark !!!
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
Ron Paul's valiant battle in spite of the odds is illustrated graphically.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
elections.foxnews.com/pennsylvania/ www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#PA With 99% reporting, CLINTON leads OBAMA by 9.4% (54.7 - 45.3), picking up about 10 delegates so far over Obama. COUNTIES STILL REPORTING: If the trend in these counties continues, Obama should reduce the difference by about 4-5000 votes. The margin of difference would close to ~ 9.2 or 9.3% OVERALL: Obama now leads in States 31-13. Obama now leads the popular vote ~500K DELEGATES:
According to the official Pennsylvania election returns site, http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/, Clinton is now at 54.3%, and Obama at 45.8%, for a margin of 8.5%. The popular-vote margin is 193,411 votes. This is 8.499% of the reported totals. So, if you have to round, this is closer to 8% than to 9% (although just barely). And, if you round the candidates' percentages to 54% and 46%, that leads more directly to a difference of 8%. Although it's probably more honest just to make it 8.5%. (Interestingly, with the older figures that were used to reach the 10% margin, the margin, unrounded, was 9.38%. The only way they could get to 10% was by first rounding off the candidates' percentages to 55% and 45%. Exactly the procedure that, with the new figures, would lead to 8%, after rounding to 54% and 46%.) In any case, it's certainly a long way from 10%.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Don't make me post Chubby Checker doing the Twist......
That was a lot of work for nothing. Did you see the RP result?
Ari... Climb down off your elitism, for Gods sake you are not talking to the village idiots as you seem to present. If you have nothing better to offer, better to say nothing.
I take it you don't like rounding. Shall we agree that it was an 8.5% margin?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I'm looking at MSNBC as I type - Clinton-55%, Obama 45% Politics is
perception and perception is reality, so your rounding effort is lost on all
but the most Hopeful among us. Obama can't close the deal in the
primaries, and 52% of Hillary's voters won't vote for him if he does (as per
MSNBC exit polls). Somewhere in Queens, NY, Geraldine Ferraro is enjoying
a cannoli and a hot cup of Joe. Oh yeah....he's losing the Catholic vote 3
to 1. Ouch.
Ferraro must be laffing herself silly, after she called Gov. Rendell for a "told you so" recital. No one wanted to listen to the old pros, all they could shout was "racism" which is their ace card. Get beyond racism and Obummers people are empty handed.
And I just refreshed the official Pennsylvania site, and the figures are precisely the same as I reported before, with percentages of 54.3% and 45.8%. By the way, I looked at the Time magazine site a few minutes ago, and it has the same figures.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
:) Did you see this? Texas Local Gov’t Forcefully Overthrows Paul Delegates! By SharpSteve | April 22, 2008 www.ronpaulwarroom.com/? p=9526 Ron Paul targeted over surveillance votes By 3strikes | April 22, 2008 New radio ads are running in districts of several Democratic members of Congress, as well as Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul, targeting the lawmakers for their opposition to a White House-backed surveillance bill. The ads play on national security fears in an attempt to spur these lawmakers to give in to the administration’s demands. Critics of the administration-backed bill say it does not guarantee enough civil liberties protections and would eliminate oversight of President Bush’s warrantless wiretapping program. Meanwhile, Politico reports that Democrats, Republicans and administration officials have met to discuss the stalled bill in question. It’s the first time since February parties on all sides of the issue have met. The ads come from the ostensibly nonpartisan group Defense of Democracies, following up on an earlier campaign from the group targeting many of the same lawmakers. The organization is urging the House to pass a Bush-approved update to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that would provide legal immunity to phone companies that may have violated the law in facilitating the warrantless wiretapping of Americans after 9/11. Civil libertarians and privacy advocates say the White House version of the bill, which already has been approved in the Senate, also does not provide enough judicial and congressional oversight for the administration’s proposed surveillance program. "The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Enjoy your refreshing......
Who the ____ would vote for McCain? Pennsylvania Republican Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 74 County Results --- 99% Reporting 1 McCain 585,447 73% 2 Ron Paul 128,188 16% 3 Huckabee 91,211 11%
Obama's campaign's strategy seems to be one of running Hillary out of money by forcing her to spend big bucks in a state that she already had in her pocket. Pretty clever.
Very good!
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
I was looking at the money figures last night. Not only was Clinton broke at the start of the month, but her list of donors have, on the average, already given 70% of their $2300 maximum. Obama's donors have only given 3% of their $2300. So Clinton has to find new donors at this point while Obama just has to hit his up again.
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The numbers yield a difference of 9.32%. MSNBC is rounding Clinton UP .34% and rounding Obama DOWN .34%, injecting an error of .68%, and then calculating the difference. The difference, using MSNBC numbers, is 9.32%. If rounded off, it properly goes to 9%, not 10%. MSNBC www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21660914#PA 1,260,060 ... 55% 2,305,208 ... 10% ---------- FOX elections.foxnews.com/pennsylvania/ 1,260,060 ... 54.66% ---------- 2,305,208 ... 09.32% REALITY
I think that the Hillary fix is in especially now that the GOP is openly trying to Swift Boat Obama in NC for Hillary. Leads me to believe that Hillary is a neocon mole. Nothing will change with another Bush/Clinton in the White House.
#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
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#3. To: Cynicom (#2)
#4. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
Hillarious stuff. The lesser socialists won, so I guess that's good?
#5. To: All (#4)
#6. To: Cynicom (#2)
Now we have to listen to a week of BS from our O'Piles as to why it doesnt mean anything.
#7. To: mirage (#6)
The Obama Nation is an abomination.
#8. To: Cynicom (#7)
America loses no matter who wins.
#9. To: mirage (#6)
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Operation Cyni moves forward.
#11. To: Cynicom (#5)
#12. To: Peppa (#10)
#13. To: Cynicom (#9)
Barack Obama 70,881 48.08%
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#11)
#15. To: mirage (#13)
#16. To: Cynicom (#14)
I've already said too much.
#17. To: Cynicom (#15)
#18. To: MUDDOG (#16)
#19. To: Cynicom (#12)
Out here in the hills, our votes are last to be counted and they will not favor O bummer.
#20. To: Cynicom (#14)
I forget who is next, maybe SC. If Obummer calls them redneck crackers it may not go over too well.
#21. To: MUDDOG (#16)
#22. To: Cynicom (#18)
Sadly race and gender have ruined this election for President.
I've already said too much.
#23. To: Peppa (#20)
#24. To: MUDDOG (#22)
If it were not race and gender, it would be something else to ruin it.
#25. To: mirage, Cynicom, critter, wudidiz (#13)
#26. To: MUDDOG (#22)
#27. To: TwentyTwelve (#25)
#28. To: mirage (#17)
#29. To: Cynicom, PA, America (#18)
#30. To: Cynicom (#27)
Disgusting, people voting for more war.
#31. To: lodwick (#29)
Chalk another one up to Diebold.
#32. To: Cynicom (#23)
We slack jawed white trash bitter hill billies did not take kindly to that $3000 suit talkin down to we uns.
#33. To: lodwick (#29)
#34. To: Cynicom (#26)
in NC
I've already said too much.
#35. To: TwentyTwelve (#25)
2. Ron Paul 5,168 16%
#36. To: TwentyTwelve (#28)
#37. To: MUDDOG (#34)
#38. To: Peppa (#35)
2. Ron Paul 5,168 16%
#39. To: TwentyTwelve (#30)
(Edited)
How is America going to pay for all of the "new" wars?
#40. To: Peppa, Jethro tull, all (#36)
#41. To: TwentyTwelve (#38)
2. Ron Paul 10,356 16%
#42. To: Cynicom (#37)
I've already said too much.
#43. To: TwentyTwelve (#38)
#44. To: TwentyTwelve (#38)
2. Ron Paul 10,356 16%
#45. To: MUDDOG (#42)
#46. To: Cynicom (#40)
Hark!!!!!!!
#47. To: MUDDOG (#42)
#48. To: Cynicom (#33)
I will let you know what the results are as there is a paper trail and no cheating.
#49. To: Cynicom (#47)
I've already said too much.
#50. To: MUDDOG (#49)
Willie Horton
#51. To: Jethro Tull (#50)
I've already said too much.
#52. To: Cynicom (#43)
Good to see Paul beating that shyster preacher that swore he would lay down our lives for Israel.
#53. To: Amazing exit poll (#52)
#54. To: MUDDOG (#51)
He'd probably endorse Obama if some enterprising reporter sought him out.
A: He's the only candidate with menagerial talent.
#55. To: Jethro Tull (#53)
#56. To: Jethro Tull (#53)
#57. To: Cynicom (#56)
#58. To: Peppa (#57)
#59. To: Peppa, cynicom (#57)
Looks like 8pts now.
#60. To: Cynicom (#58)
Our resident worms are back in their hidey holes.
#61. To: TwentyTwelve (#59)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#62. To: Cynicom, peppa (#56)
#63. To: Peppa, TwentyTwelve (#60)
#64. To: TwentyTwelve (#62)
#65. To: TwentyTwelve (#62)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#66. To: who knows what evil (#61)
#67. To: who knows what evil (#65)
Paul COULD wind up with his highest state primary vote total to date in Pennsylvania tonight...it will be close; he needs just shy of 111,000 to beat California.
#68. To: Cynicom, peppa, christine (#58)
Now it will be interesting to see how they squirm when Obama has to suck up to Clinton for VP.
#69. To: Peppa (#67)
#70. To: TwentyTwelve (#68)
#71. To: Cynicom (#66)
Here in the hills we preferred Paul, but once he withdrew, people lost heart.
#72. To: TwentyTwelve (#68)
#73. To: TwentyTwelve (#68)
President in training
#74. To: Cynicom (#2)
Now we have to listen to a week of BS from our O'Piles as to why it doesnt mean anything.
#75. To: Peppa (#71)
. They have some weird strategery.
#76. To: who knows what evil (#61)
Paul doing very well in Pennsylvania. Not bad; for someone who has 'dropped out'.
#77. To: Cynicom, peppa, christine (#70)
#78. To: Peppa (#67)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#79. To: Cynicom (#69)
Obummer put his foot in his elitist mouth once, people will be waiting to see if there is a second that would be terminal.
#80. To: Cynicom (#58)
Now it will be interesting to see how they squirm when Obama has to suck up to Clinton for VP.
#81. To: Vitamin Z (#74)
#82. To: Vitamin Z (#76)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#83. To: Jethro Tull (#41)
well done. he had 1500 at PSU at a rally I attended two weeks ago.
#84. To: Cynicom (#75)
They have some weird strategery. Dont look now but is looks like some of our Obama friends here on 4um are using the same playbooks, as they use the exact same terms and phraseology.
#85. To: Cynicom (#81)
Gov. Rendell weeks ago said Pa would not vote for a black man. For stating a fact and the truth the MSM poured scorn down on his head.
#86. To: Vitamin Z (#80)
Obama could have done that awhile ago but now his VP slot might be in jeopardy.
#87. To: who knows what evil (#78)
Interesting that nearly 30% of REPUBLICANS went to the polls to flip the bird to John McCain.
#88. To: Cynicom (#86)
Should Clinton go on to win, there are many political democrats that will pay with their blood for supporting Obama. The Clintons take no prisoners.
#89. To: TwentyTwelve (#77)
#90. To: Hey Barack! Small town PA says hello! (#88)
#91. To: Jethro Tull (#90)
#92. To: Peppa (#87)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#93. To: TwentyTwelve.PeppaVitamin Z (#88)
#94. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#95. To: Cynicom (#93)
#96. To: who knows what evil (#92)
#97. To: X-15 (#94)
#98. To: Cynicom (#86)
Should Clinton go on to win, there are many political democrats that will pay with their blood for supporting Obama. The Clintons take no prisoners.
#99. To: TwentyTwelve (#97)
#100. To: Cynicom (#93)
Somewhere along the line, Obama is going to have to decide whether he should accept half a loaf of bread, go for the whole loaf or end up with nothing.
#101. To: Vitamin Z (#98)
#102. To: who knows what evil (#65)
Paul COULD wind up with his highest state primary vote total to date in Pennsylvania tonight...it will be close; he needs just shy of 111,000 to beat California.
#103. To: who knows what evil (#92)
Paul just went over 111,000 votes...Paul got more votes in Pennsy tonight than ANY OTHER STATE to date; including California. I have a feeling this turnout for Paul and Huckabee (who DID drop out and endorse McCain) may make the GOP a bit nervous re: their upcoming convention.
#104. To: Cynicom (#101)
With Obama as VP they will win in a landslide but the white guilters will pay in blood, Richardson for one.
#105. To: Cynicom (#93)
Somewhere along the line, Obama is going to have to decide whether he should accept half a loaf of bread, go for the whole loaf or end up with nothing.
#106. To: Vitamin Z (#100)
#107. To: Peppa (#103)
Paul just went over 111,000 votes...Paul got more votes in Pennsy tonight than ANY OTHER STATE to date; including California.
#108. To: TwentyTwelve (#102)
2 Ron Paul 114,269 16%
#109. To: All (#107)
#110. To: Cynicom (#101)
#111. To: Cynicom (#108)
2 Ron Paul 114,269 16%
#112. To: Cynicom (#108)
Ron Paul 114,269 16%
#113. To: TwentyTwelve (#112)
#114. To: Vitamin Z (#100)
I agree that he should have taken the half loaf and that a Hillary/Obummer ticket would probably be unbeatable. But now Obummer is getting a little risky.
#115. To: iconoclast, Vitamin Z, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, all (#114)
non-voting cynics
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#116. To: TwentyTwelve (#107)
Paul just went over 111,000 votes...Paul got more votes in Pennsy tonight than ANY OTHER STATE to date; including California.
#117. To: iconoclast (#114)
#118. To: iconoclast, Vitamin Z (#114)
If Obama agrees to run on a ticket with Hitlery I wiil join the ranks of of the rest of the non-voting cynics here.
#119. To: Cynicom, peppa, christine (#113)
#120. To: Cynicom, peppa (#113)
#121. To: TwentyTwelve (#118)
#122. To: Cynicom (#108)
Ron Paul 114,269 16%
#123. To: iconoclast (#121)
For those of you believe that the duck hunting Hillary ever raised a shotgun to her shoulder that wasn't pointing at Bill, you'll get what you deserve.
#124. To: Cynicom (#108)
2 Ron Paul 114,269 16%
#125. To: TwentyTwelve (#124)
2 Ron Paul 127,399 16%
#126. To: robin (#125)
My guess is this is how he was really doing in earlier states. Previously, his numbers looked so made up; they never changed as the voting came in.
#127. To: robin (#125)
My guess is this is how he was really doing in earlier states. Previously, his numbers looked so made up; they never changed as the voting came in.
#128. To: robin (#125)
#129. To: TwentyTwelve, robin, VitaminZ, all (#124)
16%
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#130. To: All (#129)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#131. To: Vitamin Z (#129)
VitaminZ
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#132. To: All (#131)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#133. To: All (#132)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#134. To: Cynicom (#12)
our votes are last to be counted
#135. To: Cynicom (#12)
#136. To: noone222 (#134)
Philadelphia 97% Obama leads 65-35 and ~130,000 votes
Delaware 97% Obama leads 55-45 and ~10,000 votes
Chester 91% Obama leads 55-45 and ~7,500 votes
CNN: 1694-1556
FOX: 1703-1573
MSNBC: 1720-1588
#137. To: nolu_chan (#136)
#138. To: aristeides (#137)
So, if you have to round, this is closer to 8% than to 9% (although just barely).
#139. To: aristeides (#137)
#140. To: aristeides (#137)
In any case, it's certainly a long way from 10%.
#141. To: Jethro Tull (#138)
#142. To: aristeides (#141)
#143. To: Jethro Tull (#142)
Oh yeah....he's losing the Catholic vote 3 to 1. Ouch.
#144. To: Jethro Tull (#142)
#145. To: TwentyTwelve (#120)
PEOPLE WHO READ THIS –PLEASE PASS IT ON TO RON PAUL SUPPORTERS–THEY NEED TO BE REALISTICALLY INSPIRED WITH THE TRUTH THAT WE CAN AND COULD WIN….and this series of articles proves it!!!!!
#146. To: aristeides (#144)
By the way, I looked at the Time magazine site a few minutes ago, and it has the same figures.
#147. To: wudidiz, cynicom, peppa, critter (#129)
My guess is Ron Paul is doing better than McCain.
#148. To: Cynicom (#143)
#149. To: TwentyTwelve (#147)
2 Ron Paul 128,188 16%
#150. To: Arete (#148)
(Edited)
Obama's campaign's strategy seems to be one of running Hillary out of money by forcing her to spend big bucks in a state that she already had in her pocket. Pretty clever.
#151. To: Jethro Tull, aristeides (#142)
I'm looking at MSNBC as I type - Clinton-55%, Obama 45%
1,045,148 ... 45%
1,045,148 ... 45.34%
#152. To: nolu_chan (#151)
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