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Title: Hillary wins PA - Guns and Bibles tell Obama to take a hike
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Published: Apr 22, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-04-22 20:52:37 by Jethro Tull
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Operation Cyni moves forward. Onward and upward!!!!!
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#113. To: TwentyTwelve (#112)
What a waste, the only American running for President. Nite all.
If Obama agrees to run on a ticket with Hitlery I wiil join the ranks of of the rest of the non-voting cynics here.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Don't vote. It just encourages them. ;)
Now at 116,869. The last sorry gasp of the Plutocrat Party?
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
well, join the crowd because that is what you will have. I am sure knowing you, you will find some justification for voting Clinton/Obama.
Pennsylvania Republican Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 74 County Results --- 98% Reporting 1 McCain 562,036 73% 2 Ron Paul 123,870 16% 3 Huckabee 88,500 11%
For those of you believe that the duck hunting Hillary ever raised a shotgun to her shoulder that wasn't pointing at Bill, you'll get what you deserve. Old ladies, fools and racists will wind up putting this odious bitch in the White House.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Pennsylvania Republican Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 74 County Results --- 98% Reporting 1 McCain 569,835 73% 2 Ron Paul 125,144 16% 3 Huckabee 89,310 11%
Old ladies, fools and racists will wind up putting this odious bitch in the White House. QOTD.
"What we do claim is that the northern European, and particularly Anglo-Saxons made this country. Oh, yes; the others helped. But that is the full statement of the case. They came to this country because it was already made as an Anglo-Saxon commonwealth. They added to it, they often enriched it, but they did not make it, and they have not yet greatly changed it. We are determined that they shall not. And what we assert is that we are not going to surrender it to somebody else or allow other people, no matter what their merits, to make it something different. If there is any changing to be done, we will do it ourselves." Rep. William Vaile, Colorado, 1924
Amazing. Think what he could have done with a full court press in Pa. Pennsylvania Republican Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 74 County Results --- 99% Reporting 1 McCain 581,557 73% 2 Ron Paul 127,399 16% 3 Huckabee 90,743 11%
My guess is this is how he was really doing in earlier states. Previously, his numbers looked so made up; they never changed as the voting came in.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
I agree. Ron Paul got the shaft.
Good call. I guess they figure they can publish the real results now that the nom has basically been settled.
Pennsylvania Republican Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 74 County Results --- 99% Reporting 1 McCain 582,645 73% 2 Ron Paul 127,728 16% 3 Huckabee 90,944 11%
73% My guess is Ron Paul is doing better than McCain. Who the ____ would vote for McCain?
That is, I think the results are rigged. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Vitamin Z
Maybe I'll just go research 'Reptilians' or something.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Stalin is laughing his ass off at that remark !!!
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
Ron Paul's valiant battle in spite of the odds is illustrated graphically.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
elections.foxnews.com/pennsylvania/ www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#PA With 99% reporting, CLINTON leads OBAMA by 9.4% (54.7 - 45.3), picking up about 10 delegates so far over Obama. COUNTIES STILL REPORTING: If the trend in these counties continues, Obama should reduce the difference by about 4-5000 votes. The margin of difference would close to ~ 9.2 or 9.3% OVERALL: Obama now leads in States 31-13. Obama now leads the popular vote ~500K DELEGATES:
According to the official Pennsylvania election returns site, http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/, Clinton is now at 54.3%, and Obama at 45.8%, for a margin of 8.5%. The popular-vote margin is 193,411 votes. This is 8.499% of the reported totals. So, if you have to round, this is closer to 8% than to 9% (although just barely). And, if you round the candidates' percentages to 54% and 46%, that leads more directly to a difference of 8%. Although it's probably more honest just to make it 8.5%. (Interestingly, with the older figures that were used to reach the 10% margin, the margin, unrounded, was 9.38%. The only way they could get to 10% was by first rounding off the candidates' percentages to 55% and 45%. Exactly the procedure that, with the new figures, would lead to 8%, after rounding to 54% and 46%.) In any case, it's certainly a long way from 10%.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Don't make me post Chubby Checker doing the Twist......
That was a lot of work for nothing. Did you see the RP result?
Ari... Climb down off your elitism, for Gods sake you are not talking to the village idiots as you seem to present. If you have nothing better to offer, better to say nothing.
I take it you don't like rounding. Shall we agree that it was an 8.5% margin?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I'm looking at MSNBC as I type - Clinton-55%, Obama 45% Politics is
perception and perception is reality, so your rounding effort is lost on all
but the most Hopeful among us. Obama can't close the deal in the
primaries, and 52% of Hillary's voters won't vote for him if he does (as per
MSNBC exit polls). Somewhere in Queens, NY, Geraldine Ferraro is enjoying
a cannoli and a hot cup of Joe. Oh yeah....he's losing the Catholic vote 3
to 1. Ouch.
Ferraro must be laffing herself silly, after she called Gov. Rendell for a "told you so" recital. No one wanted to listen to the old pros, all they could shout was "racism" which is their ace card. Get beyond racism and Obummers people are empty handed.
And I just refreshed the official Pennsylvania site, and the figures are precisely the same as I reported before, with percentages of 54.3% and 45.8%. By the way, I looked at the Time magazine site a few minutes ago, and it has the same figures.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
:) Did you see this? Texas Local Gov’t Forcefully Overthrows Paul Delegates! By SharpSteve | April 22, 2008 www.ronpaulwarroom.com/? p=9526 Ron Paul targeted over surveillance votes By 3strikes | April 22, 2008 New radio ads are running in districts of several Democratic members of Congress, as well as Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul, targeting the lawmakers for their opposition to a White House-backed surveillance bill. The ads play on national security fears in an attempt to spur these lawmakers to give in to the administration’s demands. Critics of the administration-backed bill say it does not guarantee enough civil liberties protections and would eliminate oversight of President Bush’s warrantless wiretapping program. Meanwhile, Politico reports that Democrats, Republicans and administration officials have met to discuss the stalled bill in question. It’s the first time since February parties on all sides of the issue have met. The ads come from the ostensibly nonpartisan group Defense of Democracies, following up on an earlier campaign from the group targeting many of the same lawmakers. The organization is urging the House to pass a Bush-approved update to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that would provide legal immunity to phone companies that may have violated the law in facilitating the warrantless wiretapping of Americans after 9/11. Civil libertarians and privacy advocates say the White House version of the bill, which already has been approved in the Senate, also does not provide enough judicial and congressional oversight for the administration’s proposed surveillance program. "The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Enjoy your refreshing......
Who the ____ would vote for McCain? Pennsylvania Republican Primary 22-Apr-08 Delegates: 74 County Results --- 99% Reporting 1 McCain 585,447 73% 2 Ron Paul 128,188 16% 3 Huckabee 91,211 11%
Obama's campaign's strategy seems to be one of running Hillary out of money by forcing her to spend big bucks in a state that she already had in her pocket. Pretty clever.
Very good!
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
I was looking at the money figures last night. Not only was Clinton broke at the start of the month, but her list of donors have, on the average, already given 70% of their $2300 maximum. Obama's donors have only given 3% of their $2300. So Clinton has to find new donors at this point while Obama just has to hit his up again.
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The numbers yield a difference of 9.32%. MSNBC is rounding Clinton UP .34% and rounding Obama DOWN .34%, injecting an error of .68%, and then calculating the difference. The difference, using MSNBC numbers, is 9.32%. If rounded off, it properly goes to 9%, not 10%. MSNBC www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21660914#PA 1,260,060 ... 55% 2,305,208 ... 10% ---------- FOX elections.foxnews.com/pennsylvania/ 1,260,060 ... 54.66% ---------- 2,305,208 ... 09.32% REALITY
I think that the Hillary fix is in especially now that the GOP is openly trying to Swift Boat Obama in NC for Hillary. Leads me to believe that Hillary is a neocon mole. Nothing will change with another Bush/Clinton in the White House.
#114. To: Vitamin Z (#100)
I agree that he should have taken the half loaf and that a Hillary/Obummer ticket would probably be unbeatable. But now Obummer is getting a little risky.
#115. To: iconoclast, Vitamin Z, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, all (#114)
non-voting cynics
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#116. To: TwentyTwelve (#107)
Paul just went over 111,000 votes...Paul got more votes in Pennsy tonight than ANY OTHER STATE to date; including California.
#117. To: iconoclast (#114)
#118. To: iconoclast, Vitamin Z (#114)
If Obama agrees to run on a ticket with Hitlery I wiil join the ranks of of the rest of the non-voting cynics here.
#119. To: Cynicom, peppa, christine (#113)
#120. To: Cynicom, peppa (#113)
#121. To: TwentyTwelve (#118)
#122. To: Cynicom (#108)
Ron Paul 114,269 16%
#123. To: iconoclast (#121)
For those of you believe that the duck hunting Hillary ever raised a shotgun to her shoulder that wasn't pointing at Bill, you'll get what you deserve.
#124. To: Cynicom (#108)
2 Ron Paul 114,269 16%
#125. To: TwentyTwelve (#124)
2 Ron Paul 127,399 16%
#126. To: robin (#125)
My guess is this is how he was really doing in earlier states. Previously, his numbers looked so made up; they never changed as the voting came in.
#127. To: robin (#125)
My guess is this is how he was really doing in earlier states. Previously, his numbers looked so made up; they never changed as the voting came in.
#128. To: robin (#125)
#129. To: TwentyTwelve, robin, VitaminZ, all (#124)
16%
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#130. To: All (#129)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#131. To: Vitamin Z (#129)
VitaminZ
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#132. To: All (#131)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#133. To: All (#132)
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS." ~ Mahatma Ghandi
#134. To: Cynicom (#12)
our votes are last to be counted
#135. To: Cynicom (#12)
#136. To: noone222 (#134)
Philadelphia 97% Obama leads 65-35 and ~130,000 votes
Delaware 97% Obama leads 55-45 and ~10,000 votes
Chester 91% Obama leads 55-45 and ~7,500 votes
CNN: 1694-1556
FOX: 1703-1573
MSNBC: 1720-1588
#137. To: nolu_chan (#136)
#138. To: aristeides (#137)
So, if you have to round, this is closer to 8% than to 9% (although just barely).
#139. To: aristeides (#137)
#140. To: aristeides (#137)
In any case, it's certainly a long way from 10%.
#141. To: Jethro Tull (#138)
#142. To: aristeides (#141)
#143. To: Jethro Tull (#142)
Oh yeah....he's losing the Catholic vote 3 to 1. Ouch.
#144. To: Jethro Tull (#142)
#145. To: TwentyTwelve (#120)
PEOPLE WHO READ THIS –PLEASE PASS IT ON TO RON PAUL SUPPORTERS–THEY NEED TO BE REALISTICALLY INSPIRED WITH THE TRUTH THAT WE CAN AND COULD WIN….and this series of articles proves it!!!!!
#146. To: aristeides (#144)
By the way, I looked at the Time magazine site a few minutes ago, and it has the same figures.
#147. To: wudidiz, cynicom, peppa, critter (#129)
My guess is Ron Paul is doing better than McCain.
#148. To: Cynicom (#143)
#149. To: TwentyTwelve (#147)
2 Ron Paul 128,188 16%
#150. To: Arete (#148)
(Edited)
Obama's campaign's strategy seems to be one of running Hillary out of money by forcing her to spend big bucks in a state that she already had in her pocket. Pretty clever.
#151. To: Jethro Tull, aristeides (#142)
I'm looking at MSNBC as I type - Clinton-55%, Obama 45%
1,045,148 ... 45%
1,045,148 ... 45.34%
#152. To: nolu_chan (#151)
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