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Title: (Hillary) TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE
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URL Source: http://www.nypost.com/seven/0423200 ... oo_little__too_late_107751.htm
Published: Apr 23, 2008
Author: Dick Morris
Post Date: 2008-04-23 11:53:36 by Jethro Tull
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Comments: 45
April 23, 2008 -- =" " href="/news/p/clinton_hillary/clinton_hillary.htm">Hillary Clinton Problem is, it doesn't mean anything. Because of the Democratic Party's arcane proportional-representation rules, her win stands to give her a net gain of 10 to 15 delegates when all is counted. That means that Barack Obama will fall from a lead of 161 in elected delegates to about 145 or so. Big deal. The primaries coming up in the next two weeks - Indiana and North Carolina - are likely to give Obama back a goodly portion of those delegates. By the time all the primaries have been held, after June 3, there is no doubt that Obama will lead by more than 100 elected delegates, and likely 150. From there, it will be an easy route to the nomination. The Democratic superdelegates aren't about to risk a massive and sanguinary civil war by taking the nomination away from the candidate who won more elected delegates. If they ever tried it, we'd see a repeat of the demonstrations that smashed the 1968 Chicago convention and ruined Hubert Humphrey's chances of victory. Clinton won Pennsylvania for two key reasons: Only Democrats could vote in the primary, and the Keystone State electorate is dominated by the elderly, who are staunchly for Clinton. Despite her claims of electability, Hillary has never done well among independent voters. And Obama usually loses the Democrats. Pennsylvania's closed-primary rules gave her a key advantage. Older voters are flocking to Clinton as fears mount of what Obama might do as president mount. But those under 45 - less focused, perhaps, on race - are moving toward Obama. Here, that split helped her. Of the 50 states, only Florida has a higher over-65 proportion of its population. But there's a key difference: Florida's elderly moved there - Pennsylvania's are the folks that are left after the young people moved away. Pennsylvania Democrats, in other words, suffer from future shock. They welcome old, established ways and embrace dynasties happily because they are so familiar. (Look at the Bob Caseys - dad was governor, the son is senator.) But don't expect the open primaries of Indiana and North Carolina to behave like Pennsylvania's geriatrics. Both states are younger, especially North Carolina, and independents can vote in each primary. (North Carolina is where a lot of the young people who fled Pennsylvania winters and job losses ended up). Over the next two weeks, we'll be treated to much hoopla about how the Democratic race is once again up for grabs. Then, on May 5, Hillary's hopes will be dashed once more. And then? After the votes are counted in all the primaries, look for the Gang of Four - Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and John Edwards - to join together and issue a challenge to the superdelegates: Make up your minds. Together, they'll probably demand that these appointed delegates commit to one candidate or the other by mid June. And since the primaries will have lifted Obama over 1,900 delegates (elected and super), he'll only need about 100 more, out of about 300 uncommitted superdelegates. Their hands forced, enough superdelegates will go to Obama to put him over the top - he'll be the candidate. That's all, folks.
Poster Comment: This is an accurate take on the D selection process. The fun will be how the femiNazis & other groups supporting Hillary will take the Obama selection. He can't win a national selection, and they know it (and have openly said it). How delightful it is to watch open civil war within the Democrat party.
TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE
HILLARY'S PENNSYLVANIA WIN
By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Gee, it reads as if the author is the same as wrote Obummers little speech in CA. Note this person never mentions the 101 per cent black vote for Obama???? How come. But those old white trash workers are the ones supporting Clinton. This clown should wear a suit.
Good thing I noted that before I wasted any time reading his tripe.
(Morris) Having worked for Hillary, it might be suspect, but the math afa delegates is accurate. Also, the black Ds think Obama already won, so if he isn't handed the selection, the party will implode in Denver. It has to be handed to Barry, or else they'll be labeled racists (god forbid).
That's all, folks. That's why the party is angry with Hillary, they've seen this coming and so has she but she prefers double-drownings.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Hillary is a crypto-Jewess and is an authentic Israeli warmonger. Her top priority is not that the Democrats win, but that the never-ending war continues.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Who cares? I love it! This is good show.
God is always good!
It does look that way, and she has given no time table to get us out. Did you catch her attack on the anti-war activists? For some reason MSM largely ignored it. www.cbsnews.com/stories/2.../animal/main4029167.shtml In comments below, John B. and Cleek both want to know why I haven't commented on Hillary Clinton's dissing of MoveOn. So just for the record, here it is. ---------------------------------------- Clinton Slams Democratic Activists At Private Fundraiser At a small closed-door fundraiser after Super Tuesday, Sen. Hillary Clinton blamed what she called the "activist base" of the Democratic Party -- and MoveOn.org in particular -- for many of her electoral defeats, saying activists had "flooded" state caucuses and "intimidated" her supporters, according to an audio recording of the event obtained by The Huffington Post. "Moveon.org endorsed [Sen. Barack Obama] -- which is like a gusher of money that never seems to slow down," Clinton said to a meeting of donors. "We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party So if the activists of her own party don't support her and she slams them, what are her chances in Nov? ZILCH! But MSM types say her comments are "no big deal". The most ridiculous part is her charge of intimidation. In NH, it was reported that Obama and Ron Paul observers were chased out of the voting places by Hillary goons who demanded to see their papers! The Obama and RP supporters were just young college types and had no idea they needed papers (they did not!).
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Obama appears to have a lock on the Dems nomination. This is good time for racists in America.
God is always good!
The same can be said of McCain, which is why the so-called conservative pundits, for example Joe Scarbrough, Pat Buchanan, Tim Russet, traitors whom I call suck-poop goys, are trashing Obama on the Electric Jew while praising Hillary. They are lower than whale shit.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
I wonder if Buchanan will endorse Mad Mac like he endorsed Shrub in 2004.
This does not bode well for Obamaphiles. Dick Morris is ALWAYS wrong.
good point
So Obama is your Goy Savior? Wow, good luck with that.
I don't know who they are, but the people are talking with votes and gushers of money. In March 2008, Obama raised more than Clinton and McCain combined. McCain lost 27.25% of the Republican vote in a basically unopposed, closed primary, after locking up the nomination. With the current Republican administration setting new records for unfavorability, and the economy in the tank, and the long war against non-existent WMD, it is difficult to see any path to GOP national victory. Then again, it appears the Dems are working overtime at figuring out how to lose what should have been a landslide victory. At this stage, I could not count either side out.
I don't know about that. A stopped clock is correct twice a day, but he is irrelevant.
He out spent Clinton 3-1 here in PA and got 29% of the Catholic vote, lost the gun vote and split in Philly, which is really a suburb of NJ. This was the 1st contest since the Rev Wright comments and his gun grabbing slip in San Fran. The same act that was hot in Feb. is cold in April. You tell me, when was his last earth shaking victory?
Hillary picked up about 10 delegates in Pennsylvania. Prior to Pennsylvania, Obama led by 164 pledged delegates. (non-superdelegates) Just how do you think that happened? Since 2/8, Obama has won contests 15-3, including Pennsylvania. Clinton has a +5 in RI, and +9 in OH. Obama has +26 in WA, +25 in VA, +14 in MD, +12 in LA, +10 in WI, +9 in DC, +8 in HI Obama won TX +5. The last Clinton big win was on 2/5, in CA, over two months ago. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- FROM FEBRUARY 8, 2008 - MARCH 11,2008 State ............. Date.. Delegates ... Obama ... Clinton Super Delegates................. 795 ..... 226 ....... 252 .... CLINTON +26 Mississippi ....... 03/11 ....... 33 ...... 20 ........ 13 .... OBAMA +7 Ohio .............. 03/04 ...... 141 ...... 66 ........ 75 .... CLINTON +9 Vermont ........... 03/04 ....... 15 ....... 9 ......... 6 .... OBAMA +3 SUBTOTALS ...................... 869 ......496 ....... 370 .... OBAMA +126
assuming the people's votes really are counted and that one of the three hasn't already been selected as the WH occupant, i would say that both democrats have huge liabilities in their spouses. that shouldn't be important, i know, but let's face it, to the average american, it is.
Sad to say, I think you can bet the farm on it.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
The bitch is dead meat, but because of the aroma that normally surrounds her she can't even recognize it.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
Say what you will, but she's a fighter. She is going to leave Mr. O a bloody heap come Denver. When was the last big primary he won anyway?
Ahhhh... the majic of the Hillary. And, lest us forget not: while she's not the type to bake cookies in the kitchen, she actually likes being in the kitchen because in kitchens you can find sinks and they are hot like (grrrrrrrr) her.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
McCain may also have a potential liability. The mob connections behind all that money is not that far removed. And there is a refusal to release her tax returns. The Dems will scream loudly about that and remind everyone about GOP demands for information about Teresa Heinz Kerry. As a spectator sport, it will be fun.
3/4: Hillary won 55.4% of the vote in OH. 4/22: Hillary won 54.67% in PA. She LOST ALL of the other states since 2/5. The CLOSEST she came was -17.38% in WI. She lost 10 states by over 20%. OBAMA VICTORIES 03/11: MS [60.80% - 37.00%] +23.80% 02/19: WI [58.13% - 40.75%] +17.38% 02/10: ME [59.45% - 39.95%] 19.50% 02/12: DC [75.20 - 24.02] +51.18
So his last win was 6 weeks ago in MS?
The last win before being exposed. He's toast from here on out.
God is always good!
Did anybody win a primary during the six weeks there were no primaries? After PA, Hillary is still hopelessly behind in delegates after the trashings she received by 20+ point margins. Hillary's imaginary string of decisive victories has left her hopelessly behind. Maybe she will get Bill to break out his bible and pray for her.
Yet when Florida and Michigan vote totals are included she is ahead in popular vote. Obama doesn't want to include these states for a very good reason, he got his butt kicked in both of them. God is always good!
During the idle 6-weeks he got slammed w/Rev. Wright and the bitter comment. His 1st test out of the chute after this is PA, where he goes down by 10, after outspending her 3 to 1. Those damn big states.....they're trouble.
we better laugh while we can ;)
Obama was not on the ballot in MI. For the most part in Michigan, Democrats stayed home, knowing no delegates were at stake. The GOP vote more than doubled the Dem vote, in stark contrast to the other, real primary contests. Clinton ....... 328,151 - 87.73% ............... 356,075 ----- Romney ........ 337,847 - 39.75% ............... 849,623 The party decreed FL would not count and the candidates agreed to not campaign there. Hillary agreed completely until she found the only way she could steal a win is by changing the rules. Following the rules the Dems created, and Hillary agreed to follow, she is hopelessly behind in delegates. The nominee will be selected by delegates, not popular vote. Hillary trails in popular vote unless they count MI which is a farce.
He went down by 9, and was down by 20+ in polls before he campaigned there.
So? He still would have gotten trounced there.
God is always good!
Yeah, once it ceases to be a spectator sport and one these candidates becomes president, we can probably stop laughing. For now, we can just marvel at how they are all going to save civilization as we know it (according to their flaks) or end civilization as we know it (according to the opponent's flaks).
If you say so. It doesn't change the arithmetic. She can't catch up (barring a miracle).
...and start laying bets on when, not if, the end of the world will happen.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Ah, but he was down 25 in mid-March - he narrowed her lead to 9.2 ; not bad and worth every penny since she desperately needed a huge win.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
No man is my saviour, asshole. When a finger points at the moon, the asshole looks at the finger.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
and he exhausted her campaign fund.
I hadn't thought of that, everyone talks about how much he spent, but you're absolutely right, her campaign was drained. Is it his fault she can't raise half the individual donations he can?
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestClinton won Pennsylvania for two key reasons: Only Democrats could vote in the primary, and the Keystone State electorate is dominated by the elderly, who are staunchly for Clinton.
#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Dick Morris
#3. To: Cynicom (#1)
#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Their hands forced, enough superdelegates will go to Obama to put him over the top - he'll be the candidate.
#5. To: robin (#4)
#6. To: robin (#4)
That's why the party is angry with Hillary, they've seen this coming and so has she but she prefers double-drownings.
#7. To: Sam Houston, Cynicom, Jethro Tull, *Obama 2008* (#5)
You can read her comment here. Basically, I don't think it's a big deal. The activist base of the party has opposed Clinton, so it's no big surprise that she's not very happy with them.
#8. To: robin, *Racist 2008* (#7)
#9. To: Sam Houston (#5)
Hillary is a crypto-Jewess and is an authentic Israeli warmonger.
#10. To: Zoroaster (#9)
#11. To: RickyJ (#8)
Obama appears to have a lock on the Dems nomination. This is good time for racists in America.
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#13. To: Vitamin Z (#12)
#14. To: Zoroaster (#9)
The same can be said of McCain, which is why the so-called conservative pundits, for example Joe Scarbrough, Pat Buchanan, Tim Russet, traitors whom I call suck-poop goys, are trashing Obama on the Electric Jew while praising Hillary. They are lower than whale shit.
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
He can't win a national selection, and they know it (and have openly said it).
#16. To: Vitamin Z (#12)
Dick Morris is ALWAYS wrong.
#17. To: nolu_chan (#15)
I don't know who they are, but the people are talking with votes and gushers of money. In March 2008, Obama raised more than Clinton and McCain combined.
#18. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
You tell me, when was his last earth shaking victory?
Total ................................... 1641 ...... 1503 .... OBAMA +138
Pledged Delegates ............. 2687 .... 1415 ...... 1251 .... OBAMA +164
Wyoming ........... 03/08 ....... 12 C ..... 7 ......... 5 .... OBAMA +2
Texas.............. 03/04 ...... 193 ...... 99 ........ 94 .... OBAMA +5
Rhode Island ...... 03/04 ....... 21 ....... 8 ........ 13 .... CLINTON +5
Wisconsin ......... 02/19 ....... 74 ...... 42 ........ 32 .... OBAMA +10
Hawaii ............ 02/19 ....... 20 ...... 14 ......... 6 .... OBAMA +8
Virginia .......... 02/12 ....... 83 ...... 54 ........ 29 .... OBAMA +25
Maryland .......... 02/12 ....... 70 C .... 42 ........ 28 .... OBAMA +14
DC ................ 02/12 ....... 15 C .... 12 ......... 3 .... OBAMA +9
Democrats Abroad .. 02/12 ........ 7 ....... 3 ......... 1 .... OBAMA +2
Maine ............. 02/10 ....... 24 C .... 15 ......... 9 .... OBAMA +6
Washington ........ 02/09 ....... 78 ...... 52 ........ 26 .... OBAMA +26
Louisiana ......... 02/09 ....... 56 C .... 34 ........ 22 .... OBAMA +12
Nebraska .......... 02/09 ....... 24 ...... 16 ......... 8 .... OBAMA +8
Virgin Islands .... 02/09 ........ 3 ....... 3 ......... - .... OBAMA +3
#19. To: nolu_chan (#15)
Then again, it appears the Dems are working overtime at figuring out how to lose what should have been a landslide victory.
#20. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#10)
I wonder if Buchanan will endorse Mad Mac like he endorsed Shrub in 2004.
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Their hands forced, enough superdelegates will go to Obama to put him over the top - he'll be the candidate.
#22. To: iconoclast (#21)
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#22)
#24. To: christine (#19)
i would say that both democrats have huge liabilities in their spouses. that shouldn't be important, i know, but let's face it, to the average american, it is.
#25. To: Jethro Tull, iconoclast (#22)
When was the last big primary he won anyway?
3/4: Hillary won 58.61% in RI.
3/4: Hillary won 50.58% in TX. Obama won the most delegates.
03/08: WY [61.39% - 37.81%] +23.58%
03/04: VT [59.44% - 38.64%] +20.80%
02/19: HI [75.74% - 23.61%] +52.13%
02/12: VA [63.60% - 35.44%] +28.16%
02/12: MD [59.73% - 36.70%] 23.03%
02/09: WA [64.85% - 29.26%] +39.59
02/09: LA [57.39% - 35.63%] +21.76
02/09: NE [67.56 - 32.18%] +35.38
#26. To: nolu_chan (#25)
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
So his last win was 6 weeks ago in MS?
#28. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
So his last win was 6 weeks ago in MS?
#29. To: nolu_chan (#28)
After PA, Hillary is still hopelessly behind in delegates after the trashings she received by 20+ point margins.
State Date Obama Clinton Spread Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)** 14,993,348 47.4% 15,116,076 47.8% Clinton +122,728 +0.4%
#30. To: nolu_chan (#28)
#31. To: nolu_chan (#24)
As a spectator sport, it will be fun.
#32. To: RickyJ (#29)
Yet when Florida and Michigan vote totals are included she is ahead in popular vote. Obama doesn't want to include these states for a very good reason, he got his butt kicked in both of them.
Kucinich ....... 21,708 - 05.80%
Dodd ............ 3,853 - 01.03%
Gravel .......... 2,363 - 00.63%
McCain ........ 257,521 - 30.30%
Huckabee ...... 139,699 - 16.44%
Paul ........... 54,434 - 06.40%
Thompson ....... 32,135 - 03.78%
Giuliani ....... 24,706 - 02.91%
Hunter .......... 2,823 - 00.33%
Tancredo .......... 458 - 00.05%
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
During the idle 6-weeks he got slammed w/Rev. Wright and the bitter comment. His 1st test out of the chute after this is PA, where he goes down by 10
#34. To: nolu_chan (#32)
Obama was not on the ballot in MI.
#35. To: christine (#31)
we better laugh while we can ;)
#36. To: RickyJ (#34)
So? He still would have gotten trounced there.
#37. To: nolu_chan (#35)
once it ceases to be a spectator sport and one these candidates becomes president, we can probably stop laughing....
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#38. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
#39. To: Vitamin Z (#14)
(Edited)
So Obama is your Goy Savior? Wow, good luck with that.
#40. To: robin (#38)
not bad and worth every penny since she desperately needed a huge win.
#41. To: nolu_chan (#40)
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