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Title: Not Quite Double Digits for Clinton in Pennsylvania
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Yahoo! News (The Nation)
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080423/cm_thenation/45314676
Published: Apr 23, 2008
Author: The Nation
Post Date: 2008-04-23 16:06:42 by aristeides
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Views: 272
Comments: 20
Not Quite Double Digits for Clinton in Pennsylvania Wed Apr 23, 12:30 PM ET Hillary Clinton needed a double-digit win in Pennsylvania. And she claimed it last night. But the final results are likely to deny the wide win to the senator from New York, whose campaign at this point is all about perceptions. Instead of a double-digit win, Pennsylvania's official count now has her ahead of Barack Obama by 54.6 to 45.4. That's a 9.2 margin and there are still a few precincts uncounted. This is typical of high-turnout elections. When the all the totals are counted and reviewed, there is fluctuation. That's why initial results are referred to as "unofficial." But this variation is a significant one. Clinton won Pennsylvania, no doubt about that. But her campaign needed to win big and a double-digit win is definitionally big -- sufficient, in fact, to attract millions of dollars in essential campaign contributions that might otherwise be harder to pry loose. That's why she's very lucky that she went into today talking about a 10-point win rather than a nine-point win -- or, even, when everything is counted, something smaller than that. It would be silly for the Obama campaign to make too big a deal of this. That would only add pettiness to a campaign that is already too petty. But for those of us who actual care about the permanent recent, the results from Pennsylvania do matter.
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#1. To: aristeides (#0)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Can you believe it? The media rounded it to 55 to 45.
Make yourself an easy 100 bucks, offer still stands.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
FOX posts the percentages out to two decimal places, or you can do your own arthmetic. The latest numbers yield a difference of 9.32%. MSNBC is rounding Clinton UP .34% and rounding Obama DOWN .34%, injecting an error of .68%, and then calculating the difference. The difference, using MSNBC numbers, is 9.32%. If rounded off, it properly goes to 9%, not 10%. MSNBC www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21660914#PA 1,260,060 ... 55% 2,305,208 ... 10% ---------- FOX elections.foxnews.com/pennsylvania/ 1,260,060 ... 54.66% ---------- 2,305,208 ... 09.32%
How dare them. It must be that new fuzzy math that George Bush likes. Rounding, what will they invent next. LOL!
God is always good!
One surprising result is that McCain LOST 27.25% of the vote in an essentially uncontested election. FOX elections.foxnews.com/pennsylvania/ McCain..... 586,904 ... 72.75%
She's toast. As long as she wins the remaining states that's all that matters. It will show that Obama is toast.
God is always good!
Uncontested my ass. Ron Paul has NOT dropped out of the race.
God is always good!
Ghost has Clintons obit all written and has been in contact with the morticians.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I have a profound distaste with the notion that the person most deserving of the Presidency of the United States just miraculously happens to be the person married to the last Democratic President of the United States. That assumption is far too much of typical intra-Washington narcissism. Not to mention that that notion carries the strong oder of American monarchy, something already wafting through the air in these days of Emporer Decider Guy, the chimp boy king.
It's a conspiracy.
These O'philes and their rounding numbers....it must have something to do with their pointy heads. To bad they can't round out his color. That's why he's going to lose. Ask the Clinton's, Ed Rendell or Geraldine Ferrara,,,,they've all said as much. White America isn't going to buy his black racism or his wacky associations with radicals of both colors.
I'm quite happy to leave the number unrounded: a margin of 9.2%. It's the media that are rounding the numbers, in a deceptive way.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
a margin of 9.2%. It's the media that are rounding the numbers, in a deceptive way. Wasn't it 8.5% this AM ? Awful lot of time spent on this sideshow, this freakshow, as this country slides futher into the abyss.
I'm happy, you're happy, El Roundo....
That's what the Web site of the Secretary of State of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania was reporting the margin to be as of this morning. They have since adjusted the figure. The point is, the margin was never 10.0% or greater, but the media have nevertheless been reporting PA as a double-digit victory.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
#2. To: aristeides (#0)
Pennsylvania's official count now has her ahead of Barack Obama by 54.6 to 45.4
I've already said too much.
#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#1)
She's toast.
#4. To: Cynicom (#3)
#5. To: aristeides, ghostdogtxn, MUDDOG (#0)
Instead of a double-digit win, Pennsylvania's official count now has her ahead of Barack Obama by 54.6 to 45.4. That's a 9.2 margin and there are still a few precincts uncounted.
1,045,148 ... 45%
1,045,148 ... 45.34%
#6. To: MUDDOG (#2)
Can you believe it? The media rounded it to 55 to 45.
#7. To: aristeides (#0)
Paul....... 128,431 ... 15.92%
Huckabee ... 91,382 ... 11.33%
#8. To: ghostdogtxn (#1)
She needed to take PA by 20 points, and win every contest between now and the convention, to merely stay competitive. She now has to win the remaining states by something like 80%.
#9. To: nolu_chan (#7)
#10. To: RickyJ (#8)
#11. To: RickyJ (#8)
#12. To: Cynicom (#10)
#13. To: ghostdogtxn (#12)
Eugene, Oregon, Host of the 2008 U.S. Olympic Trials
#14. To: RickyJ (#6)
I've already said too much.
#15. To: RickyJ (#6)
#16. To: Jethro Tull (#15)
These O'philes and their rounding numbers
#17. To: aristeides (#16)
#18. To: aristeides (#16)
#19. To: angle (#17)
Wasn't it 8.5% this AM ?
#20. To: Ferret Mike (#13)
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