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Title: Both Democrats Are Looking Like Damaged Goods - Exit Polls Show Many Party Voters Could Back McCain
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Wall Street Journal
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120 ... 409.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news
Published: Apr 23, 2008
Author: LAURA MECKLER and T.W. FARNAM
Post Date: 2008-04-23 16:09:28 by mirage
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Comments: 14
The long, bitter contest between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama seems to be taking a toll on the enthusiasm that once permeated the Democratic electorate. Exit polls of Pennsylvania Democrats Tuesday found that roughly one in three voters had serious concerns about at least one of the presidential contenders. SIGNS OF TROUBLE A quarter of voters said they would be dissatisfied if Sen. Clinton were the nominee; an even greater number said they would be dissatisfied if it is Sen. Obama, according to results from the exit poll conducted for the National Election Pool. Perhaps even more worrying for the Democrats: One in four Clinton supporters said they would vote for Sen. John McCain if Sen. Obama is the Democratic nominee. Sixteen percent of Obama backers said they would choose Sen. McCain over Sen. Clinton. To be sure, the poll of 2,270 voters, taken at 40 polling places across the state, was conducted after six weeks of attacks and counterattacks aimed from one Democrat at the other. The fall election is still more than six months away, giving Democrats time to unify behind their eventual nominee. Still, Tuesday's polling included some troublesome findings for Democrats. About one-third of voters said Sen. Clinton isn't in touch with "people like you." About the same number said Sen. Obama isn't. More than four in 10 voters said Sen. Clinton isn't honest and trustworthy. About three in 10 said the same of Sen. Obama. Many voters, it seems, were like Vivian Parel, 59 years old, a Clinton supporter who cast her ballot at Bensalem High School in a Bucks County suburb northeast of Philadelphia. She said that she found Sen. Obama's campaign short on substance and that she thought he was arrogant. Ms. Parel, a nurse who came to the U.S. from the Philippines in 1975, was also turned off by his wife, Michelle Obama, who told an audience in February that she was really proud of her country for the first time in her adult life. She said she was skeptical that Mrs. Obama would be so negative, given her education. "After being in Harvard because of the United States? No way," Ms. Parel said. Harry Wilson, 71, of Philadelphia, cast his vote for Sen. Obama, saying Republican antipathy toward Sen. Clinton would make it hard for her to get anything done in Washington. "I don't want an oligarchy," said Mr. Wilson, a retiree from the Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights. Mr. Wilson said putting Sen. Clinton in the White House would amount to "two families running the country for 28 years -- which I think is absolutely absurd." Many voters thought the candidates unfairly attacked one another. More than two-thirds said Sen. Clinton attacked Sen. Obama unfairly; about half said the same of Sen. Obama. Those numbers were up from March primaries in Texas and Ohio, when just over half of Democratic voters said Sen. Clinton attacked unfairly and about one-third said that Sen. Obama did so. Indeed, the harsh attacks that have been leveled on the stump and over television ads upset Pennsylvania voters more than any since South Carolina, when charges of race-baiting turned that contest particularly nasty. In subsequent contests, a large number of Democrats -- about six in 10 -- believed that at least one candidate attacked the other unfairly. In Pennsylvania, it rose to eight in 10 once again. Many of the attacks were delivered in 30-second spots that saturated the airwaves. About half of voters in Pennsylvania said these campaign ads were important in their decision, and these people tended to favor Sen. Clinton. Her spots both trumpeted her own abilities and attacked Sen. Obama for saying rural voters "cling" to guns, religion and antitrade sentiment because they are discouraged by economic hardships. In his response spots, Sen. Obama charged Sen. Clinton wasn't focused on solutions for the country. Economic distress hung over the election, as it has in other states. Nine in 10 voters thought the economy was in a recession, with about half saying it was a serious recession. Most voters thought both candidates would be able to improve the economy. But again, there was dissatisfaction. One in four voters said Sen. Clinton would not improve the economy, and one in three said the same of Sen. Obama. Asked to choose between three issues -- the economy, the war in Iraq and health care -- more than half of voters said the economy was most important. Sen. Clinton won those voters who picked the economy and health care; Sen. Obama won voters most concerned about Iraq. Asked to choose among four candidate qualities, about half picked "can bring about needed change," and those voters strongly favored Sen. Obama. Early exit polls also found: Gender seemed to be a plus for Sen. Clinton, while race was a negative for Sen. Obama. One in five voters said gender was an important factor in their vote, and a solid majority of them voted for Sen. Clinton. Similarly, about one in five voters said race was an important factor for them, but most of those voters voted against Sen. Obama. Sen. Obama's comments about bitter voters and their guns didn't do him any good with nearly four in 10 voters who own a gun or live with someone who does. They sided with Sen. Clinton by a sizeable majority. As expected, Sen. Clinton did best in rural areas, while Sen. Obama had his strongest showing in the big cities. As in past races, women, whites and older voters favored Sen. Clinton, while men, blacks and young voters favored Sen. Obama. About 15% of voters were new to a Democratic primary, and they split for Sen. Obama 2 to 1.
• Worry for Democrats: Exit polling in Pennsylvania reveals deep splits that could hurt the party's chances in November.
• Going Negative: Many voters thought both candidates unfairly attacked one another.
• Time to Heal? The fall election is more than six months away, giving Democrats a chance to unify behind their nominee.
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#1. To: mirage (#0)
Is this why the Demos are called the Stupid Wing of the Party?
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Love the chart. I guess they're not TOO bitter about the economy. Very interesting.
"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now." -- United States Supreme Court Source: South Carolina vs. United States (1905)
Usually, its that the Democrats are the Evil Party and the Republicans are the Stupid Party*. *Subject to role reversal without notice.
Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.
Anyone voting for McCain, Clinton or Obama hasn't got two brain cells to rub together or balls bigger than a bb.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
Do we really want another 8 years of Clintonista rule or do we want to take the chance that Mr. "I Hate Whitey" can get over himself? My tagline says it all.
Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I'm writing in Ron Paul as well, but I would not take a chance on Mr. Snob. I'll vote J. Random Libertarian (whomever they run) first. That was my 2004 protest vote for President and it will be again most likely.
Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Yes, a snob. His comments about Pennsylvanians lead directly to that, especially given that he sits in the city and pretty much ignores the sticks. Coupled with his books about how he despises 'white people' and wishes to bury that part of his heritage and ignore it -- he's a snob looking down his long nose at others. For someone who espouses "multiculturalism" to cast snide remarks about folks in the sticks shows hypocrisy, ignorance, and elitist snobbishness. There is no other conclusion that can be drawn.
Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.
*Subject to role reversal without notice. LOL Exactly.
Obama? C'mon, he attended private prep school in Hawaii with his grandparents after having attended a few years of school in Indonesia with his mom and stepfather. Source: A CNN special. Dunno where this welfare mom stuff comes from.
Source: A CNN special. Dunno where this welfare mom stuff comes from. Shhhhh. You're ruining his white guilt fantasy.
CNN didn't dwell much on his early years in Kansas, where he was living with his mom (and prolly his grandparents, tho that wasn't clear) before moving to Indonesia with his stepdad, because his biological father went to study at Harvard and apparently never even came back to Kansas to visit. I suppose his mom could've gotten welfare at that point, but what sort of welfare did a state like Kansas provide then. It's clear that his maternal grandparents had cash, since he attended a prep school in Hawaii. No use speculating about the psychological effects of an absent dad on a young 'un.
• Worry for Democrats: Exit polling in Pennsylvania reveals deep splits that could hurt the party's chances in November.
#2. To: Vitamin Z (#1)
#3. To: mirage (#0)
#4. To: Vitamin Z (#1)
Is this why the Demos are called the Stupid Wing of the Party?
#5. To: mirage (#0)
#6. To: ghostdogtxn (#2)
After 8 years of Republican governance, it's hard to call anyone else stupid.
#7. To: mirage (#6)
#8. To: ghostdogtxn (#7)
I'm writing in Ron Paul, but if there were no Ron Paul I'd take a chance on the "I hate whitey" guy.
#9. To: mirage (#8)
#10. To: ghostdogtxn (#9)
Please. A pretender, maybe. A naif, certainly. Unqualifed, most likely. But not a snob.
#11. To: mirage (#4)
Usually, its that the Democrats are the Evil Party and the Republicans are the Stupid Party*.
#12. To: ghostdogtxn (#9)
The guy was raised on welfare by a single mom
#13. To: swarthyguy (#12)
Obama? C'mon, he attended private prep school in Hawaii with his grandparents after having attended a few years of school in Indonesia with his mom and stepfather.
#14. To: Vitamin Z (#13)
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