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Title: Why Barack Obama will never be president
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URL Source: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/ ... a-will-never-be-president.aspx
Published: Apr 24, 2008
Author: Theo Caldwell
Post Date: 2008-04-24 10:02:23 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 404
Comments: 35

If he becomes the Democratic Party's nominee for president, Sen. Barack Obama will lose the general election for this reason: When the smiles and platitudes are set aside, Obama's campaign and the philosophy of his cadre amount to one big put-down of America.

Anomalous among Western leaders, the president of the United States serves as head of both state and government. Moreover, he is elected directly by the voters, unlike in a parliamentary system whereby a leader attains power through the success of his party. As such, the president represents something very personal to Americans. He is, for four or more years, the personification of their country, embodying the aspirations and goodness of the land that they love. A president may disappoint after assuming office, but America is not in the habit of electing candidates who hold their country in contempt.

Not only have the comments of Obama's wife, Michelle (who has referred to America as "downright mean" and stated that she was not proud of her country until her husband started winning primaries) and his minister, Jeremiah Wright (whose hateful, anti-white, anti-American diatribes are available for sale in Obama's church, or for free on YouTube) revealed the tired, leftist scorn for America that Obama represents — the Senator's own remarks have exposed this ugly, unelectable side.

Speaking to a fundraiser in San Francisco, Obama attempted to explain his persistent deficit in Pennsylvania primary polls by describing small-town Americans as "bitter" people who "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." This is hard stuff, and patronizing, besides. Add to this Obama's characterizations of the "typical white person" (in the context of describing his grandmother, whom he had originally tossed under the campaign bus in order to create a false equivalence with Wright's racism), and one finds something far more damaging than a simple series of gaffes --it is a window into how the Senator sees his countrymen.

Obama's associations, even beyond Wright, speak to this unappealing point of view. William Ayers, a domestic terrorist of Weathermen infamy, enjoys a friendly relationship with the Obamas. As general-election voters will learn, Ayers bombed the Pentagon on May 19, 1972, and fondly recalls, "The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them." Ayers and his accomplices also bombed the U.S. Capitol, the State Department, as well as banks, police stations and courthouses.

In one's associations, as in other aspects of life, mistakes are made. But a hallmark of a leader is the willingness to make them right. For this, Obama has shown little talent or enthusiasm.

Obama has defended Wright by insisting that he merely represents the convention of "Black Liberation Theology," as though this were just some quaint offshoot of traditional Christianity. One need not pore over the tenets of Black Liberation Theology or its founder, James Hal Cone — although a Google search of either would provide a world of clarity to the undecided voter -- to recognize that a would-be President who cannot utterly disassociate himself from such racist, anti-American rubbish lacks sufficient character and affinity for his country's ideals to be its leader.

The bumper-sticker slogan "dissent is patriotic" has for decades been employed to legitimize any insult to America, no matter how hateful or moronic. But Americans understand that their president's instinct ought to be to defend the nation against unfair invective, not embrace those who purvey it — or, in the case of Ayers, seek to blow it up altogether.

With his demonstrable view of America, and considering his cohorts, Obama would be wise to make himself very comfortable in the Senate.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Not only have the comments of Obama's wife, Michelle (who has referred to America as "downright mean" and stated that she was not proud of her country until her husband started winning primaries) and his minister, Jeremiah Wright (whose hateful, anti-white, anti-American diatribes are available for sale in Obama's church, or for free on YouTube) revealed the tired, leftist scorn for America that Obama represents — the Senator's own remarks have exposed this ugly, unelectable side.

The blue collar, small town, white Americans in PA just demonstrated this to be true. A black racist, with a nasty wife, has no chance to be selected, despite some scatttered white guilt cheerleading.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-24   10:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

If he becomes the Democratic Party's nominee for president, Sen. Barack Obama will lose the general election for this reason: When the smiles and platitudes are set aside, Obama's campaign and the philosophy of his cadre amount to one big put-down of America.

And in the other corner is the record of George W. Bush.

"Four more years" -- eeek!

If available, I wonder how "none of the above" would do?

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-04-24   14:18:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nolu_chan (#2)

If available, I wonder how "none of the above" would do?

the same as 3rd party. the partisans who benefit economically from the status quo will still outnumber the "none of the abovers."

christine  posted on  2008-04-24   14:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine, *Obama 2008* (#0)

one big put-down of America.

Which is worse a put-down or complete destruction?

or, in the case of Ayers

I am a little weary about the smears regarding Ayers...As I posted here:

Fact Check on Clinton Attacks on Obama and Ayers

And the never ceasing smearing of Obama by smearing Wright:

After preaching a sermon on Ecclesiastes, Lutheran Pastor Peter Muhlenberg committed treason against the Crown when he stood up from the pulpit and revealed his uniform, saying "There is a time for all things, a time to preach and a time to pray, but those times have passed away. There is a time to fight, and that time has now come."

The pastors of our nation have a fine tradition of motivating Americans from the pulpit, including to war.

Reverend Jeremiah Wright: Religious Freedom Versus State Religion, Ethics, Politics and Strategy by Prof James Petras

Father Mike Pfleger defending Rev. Wright very well against Fox News

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-24   14:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#0)

With his demonstrable view of America, and considering his cohorts, Obama would be wise to make himself very comfortable in the Senate.

After the revelations of this election he better not get too attached to that Senate seat from Illinois.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-05   4:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#0)

He will win the nomination and he will win the general.

The Swift boat tactics people like Jethro here use are cute, but tired and won't amount to much. Barack is no Kerry who sits back and ignores this sort of harping.

I have confidence in his ability to deal with these sort of tactics.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-05   5:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

Barack is no Kerry who sits back and ignores this sort of harping.

You still think he is a serious candidate. The guy hasn't even started to see real swiftboating yet. When he does he will be lucky to retain his Senate seat.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-05   5:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

The Swift boat tactics people like Jethro here use are cute,

If you can point to one thing I have posted about Obama that isn't from MSM research, I'll personally renew you membership to the Trinity United Church of Christ. You can then continue to sit in the back row with your fellow forum Wiccans.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-05   7:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#0)

(who has referred to America as "downright mean" and stated that she was not proud of her country until her husband started winning primaries)

That is not accurate. It is a lie.

Michelle said she hasn't been proud of America since her CHILDHOOD. WHen Reagan was president?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-05   7:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Old Friend (#9)

she was not proud of her country until her husband started winning primaries - christine

That would be since her CHILDHOOD, so christine's comment is correct as stated.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-05   7:48:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

I don't think I was addressing Christines point. I was addressing the articles point. Her name just got put there because she posted the article.

But she said childhood. Not since her husband started winning.

Minor point.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-05   9:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

"If you can point to one thing I have posted about Obama that isn't from MSM research, I'll personally renew you membership to the Trinity United Church of Christ. You can then continue to sit in the back row with your fellow forum Wiccans."

I like Obama and I am supporting him over Clinton for the nomination. You have your blindnesses relating to him whether you see this or not.

Your argument has vastly strengthened my support of Barack Obama so I hardly am annoyed with you on that count, but I do find your whining about the bozo a clownish and pathetic tangent to take in your efforts.

As far as I am concerned, if you put someone's name several times in your bozo section, they appear to have several people bozoing you. Unless Neil has changed things in this version of his interface, worrying about this count is pointless as long as one person can tweak your spirits with this sort of stacking the bozo count.

I have always found the subject of the bozo tiresome and anyone who obsesses on it annoying. I completely ignore it and don't give a damn about what mine says. IT could reflect one person with me on it more then once in their set-up section or three people.

It is just not a worthy topic of discussion and I am not impressed with how you use it to try to leverage your overall attack on Obama.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-05   10:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

I have always found the subject of the bozo tiresome and anyone who obsesses on it annoying.

Bozo the thread.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-05   10:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: RickyJ (#7)

"You still think he is a serious candidate. The guy hasn't even started to see real swiftboating yet. When he does he will be lucky to retain his Senate seat."

You have yet to make a serious point knocking Obama that is not resonant with your own personal little sense of racism.

I have listened to your little repetitive and erroneous rants on Barack Obama. And your signature taken with that reminds me how some of the worst scoundrels in a forum on a grudge fest like yours' are usually the ones most into displays of their own religious piety.

I don't consider you a good Christian role model or someone who criticizes Obama for well thought out reasons. He is quite secure in his Senate seat in the worst case scenario you would like to extrapolate on. But that is a moot point anyway, as he is going to be the Democratic nominee and the next POTUS.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-05   10:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

I don't have need for the ignore/ bozo function, you use it if you want to. I won't.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-05   10:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

I don't have need for the ignore/ bozo function, you use it if you want to. I won't.

Well stop complaining about what you read.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-05   10:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike (#14)

You have yet to make a serious point knocking Obama that is not resonant with your own personal little sense of racism.

Hilarious.

Another Wiccan for Marx assumes the self appointed mantel of racial arbiter.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-05   10:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

You can then continue to sit in the back row with your fellow forum Wiccans.

lol

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-05   10:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#17)

"Hilarious."

The generic "White guilt" broad brush you paint with tells me you and Rick would never ever entertain thoughts of supporting a qualified Negro candidate for high office.

You make your own bed with your little old stereotypes, so you sleep in it. I am not impressed with this sort of inaccurate, very calculated and childish game.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-05   10:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ferret Mike (#19)

would never ever entertain thoughts of supporting a qualified Negro candidate for high office.

Is there something wrong with that view?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-05   10:42:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Old Friend (#20)

"Is there something wrong with that view?"

It is obvious what I feel in this regard, so why should I answer such a dumb question?


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-05   10:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret Mike (#21)

Because I want to see your opinion.

So are you saying people shouldn't be allowed to base their vote on race?

Or are you just saying in your opinion it isn't right but people should be allowed to have those feelings?

I voted for Keyes in the primaries before. So I could vote for a black guy. I even said there was a one percent chance I would vote for him. Zero for hill and mccain.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-05   10:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Old Friend (#22)

Basing one's opinion solely on race is dumb. And I know there are people here who go strictly by race in how they formulate their opinions.

Such people project their own irrational belief systems by accusing others of doing the same thing they are doing, which is where the "White guilt" angle of attack comes from.

Anyone insinuating others voter because of some "White guilt" reason is projecting onto others their own racism. When I see this argument used there is no point in seeing this angle of attack for anything more then what it is; a statement of affirmation of the attackers' own personal racism.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-05   10:55:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

Anyone insinuating others voter because of some "White guilt" reason is projecting onto others their own racism.

I don't think that is a universally true statement.

I'm sure there are some who vote for Obama out of some kind of white guilt.

As well as others that vote for him because of other reasons.

I don't see myself voting for Obama. But I don't despise the man either. If he is elected I will give him a chance.

Hillary and McCain on the other hand I despise.

Don't know enough about Obama yet to despise.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-05   10:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Ferret Mike (#19)

The generic "White guilt" broad brush you paint with tells me you and Rick would never ever entertain thoughts of supporting a qualified Negro candidate for high office.

It's funny you mention white guilt. It was Shelby Steele, a black, who wrote the book on the topic. I'd support him, Walter Williams, or any other black who dares to address the insidious PC culture we live in.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-05   11:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

He will win the nomination and he will win the general.

Sorry, Mike, but he won't. And the best reason that I have seen put out about it is this;

"They do not call it the White House because of the paint job."

That is a simple fact. Remember, my wife is not white (Mayo Indian) and I have some understanding on this subject. Even members of my family, the ones I was closest to, turned their nose up at her. And they live/have always lived in Montana, not in some big city that has seen racial problems.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest. ++++++++++ Attention, Shrub; A life of evil is ultimately a life of wretchedness.

richard9151  posted on  2008-05-05   11:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ferret Mike, *Racist 2008* (#14)

I don't consider you a good Christian role model

That's because you area Wiccan and racist supporter.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-05   21:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: RickyJ (#27)

No, it is because you are racist and no sort of good Christian.

I was raised a Catholic sonny boy, and know the theology. I know when what you are and are not.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-06   4:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#28)

No, it is because you are racist and no sort of good Christian.

I was raised a Catholic sonny boy, and know the theology. I know when what you are and are not.

A racist supporter calling me a racist?

I am not a Catholic, but rather a Christian. I'm not surprised you don't understand the differences being a Wiccan and all.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-06   4:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: RickyJ (#29)

I know Barack Obama is no racist, and that you are. I also know that if you don't consider Catholics Christian you are mud dumb stupid as well as a bigot.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-06   4:12:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: RickyJ (#29)

"I'm not surprised you don't understand the differences being a Wiccan and all."

You are more Roman with nails ands a thorn crown to put on the head of whom you torment then a Christian. I don't give a shit you are prejudiced against my religion by the way. That just goes with the territory you cover by being such a dumb ass bigot.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-06   4:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike (#30) (Edited)

I know Barack Obama is no racist, and that you are. I also know that if you don't consider Catholics Christian you are mud dumb stupid as well as a bigot.

What you think you know is not reality. Reality is Obama is a racist. He has went to a racist church for 20 years. He just said Sunday that he is not going to leave that church. A church that teaches that whites are the enemy that should be destroyed by any means available and that God is black, is a racist church. A person who goes to such a church for 20 years and is not retarded is a bona fide racist. So you are wrong about Obama not being a racist.

Christians are those who go by the New Testament. Many Catholics do this, but they also go by the traditions of men in baptizing infants, praying to Mary, and thinking a man, such as the Pope can be the leader of the church. This is not taught in the New Testament at all. There is only one head of the church talked about by Jesus, it is himself. So they have added to the New Testament and are in great error. That's not to say all Catholics are destined for hell, no, most don't know enough about the scriptures so they won't be held accountable for the lies the Catholic church had told to them. But those who know the scriptures and still go by the Catholic's erroneous teachings are destined for hell indeed. So a true Catholic and a true Christian are not one in the same.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-06   4:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ferret Mike (#31)

I don't give a shit you are prejudiced against my religion by the way. That just goes with the territory you cover by being such a dumb ass bigot.

I know a lot about your religion, it is nothing new. It is talked about in the Bible. Yes I am against it, I will not apologize for that. Just as you will not apoligize for being against true Christians such as myself.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-06   4:30:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: RickyJ (#32) (Edited)

"What you think you know is not reality. Reality is Obama is a racist"

Your proof is without merit or substance. I don't give a shit about a church's internal family dialog where a pastor questions aspect of life in the United States.

Being a U.S. Senator is a far different role then church pastor, and I see only that you are so disgusted by the thought of a Negro becoming POTUS, you would slander and malign every single man woman and child in that church.

You have no shame and are a disgusting excuse for a human being.

I know Barack Obama does not discriminate on the basis of race, and this is known so well you just come across as a baiter and hater with no leg to stand on with your harebrained and self serving allegation.

As for the minor differences in format and practice between Catholics and Protestant sects, all Catholics and Protestants preach the same gospel and believe the same scripture.

Both Catholics and Protestant faiths have their myopias and questionable believes and practices, but none of them above the other in terms of what is a Christian Church in good standing and what is not.

This baseless and narrow-minded pettiness you demonstrate reinforces the narrow- minded bigotry you display with your willful slander directed at Senator Obama, and is no surprise at all to see.

Get your head out of your ass son, being ignorant and hateful is no way to go through life.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-06   4:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: RickyJ (#33)

"I know a lot about your religion, it is nothing new. It is talked about in the Bible. Yes I am against it, I will not apologize for that. Just as you will not apoligize for being against true Christians such as myself."

Yes, you are against religious diversity. Big surprise that, not.

You would be happiest with a Theocracy where only narrow minded half wits like you would have a standing in government.

You would discriminate and hound people of my faith, and some of you would die for your troubles as well as some of us.

I prefer the freedom of religion upheld in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to your brand of Taliban Christianity, homer. You are anything but a good American or a true Christian.

You are a hater and a baiter with a mind narrow enough to serve as a demontration of what a two dimentional object is actually like.

You don't know shit about my faith by the way. For one thing, we never suffer a twit like you any longer then we have to.


"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-05-06   4:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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