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Title: PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS GROWING IN THE UNITED STATES
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URL Source: http://www.worthynews.com/christian-persecution.html
Published: Apr 25, 2000
Author: Thomas Horn
Post Date: 2008-04-25 03:00:05 by IndieTX
Keywords: None
Views: 327
Comments: 18

More Christians died for their faith in the twentieth century than at any other time in history, says Christian Solidarity International. Global reports indicate that over 150,000 Christians were martyred last year, chiefly outside of the United States. However, statistics are changing: persecution of Christians is on the increase in the United States. What's happening to bring about this change?

According to some experts a pattern is emerging reminiscent of Jewish persecution in post war Germany. "Isolation of, and discrimination against Christians is growing almost geometrically" says Don McAlvany in The Midnight Herald. "This is the way it started in Germany against the Jews. As they became more isolated and marginalized by the Nazi propaganda machine, as popular hatred and prejudice against the Jews increased among the German people, wholesale persecution followed. Could this be where the growing anti-Christian consensus in America is taking us?"

Tolerance of anti-Christian attitudes in the United States is escalating. Recently, a woman in Houston, Texas was ordered by local police to stop handing out gospel tracts to children who knocked on her door during Halloween. Officers informed her that such activity is illegal (not true), and that she would be arrested if she continued. In Madison, Wisconsin, the Freedom from Religion Foundation distributes anti-Christian pamphlets to public school children entitled, "We Can Be Good Without God." The entertainment industry and syndicated media increasingly vilify Christians as sewer rats, vultures, and simple-minded social ingrates. The FBI and the Clinton White House brand fundamentalist Christian groups as hate mongers and potential terrorists. The Council of Religious Leaders of Metropolitan Chicago warns that plans by Southern Baptists to hold a convention in the Windy City next year might foment "hate crimes" against minorities, causing some Christians to fear that speaking openly about their religious beliefs will soon be considered a crime. All this, while Christianity itself is often a target of hate-crime violence. We remember the students at Columbine, and the United Methodist minister who was fatally beaten and burned in a remote part of Chattanooga, Tennessee, to name a few of the recent examples of interpersonal violence aimed at believers.

THE REAL ENEMY

Manly P. Hall once wrote, "They are the invisible powers behind the thrones of earth, and men are but marionettes, dancing while the invisible ones pull the strings." Satan's string pullers have patiently manipulated unregenerate architects of American society for over five decades, networking both visible and invisible principalities to discredit Christian causes. Indicators reveal the propaganda blame-game against western believers is working.

Even a casual observance of the facts reveals growing isolation of Christians as a people group, especially school age believers. Faculty and peer efforts to convince public school children that America was not founded on Christian ideals, and that our forefathers actually wanted a secular society, permeates public school interaction. History revisionists labor to eliminate any and all contradictory historical evidence from public school curriculum, and mockingly stereotype Christians as unenlightened fringe.

A few years ago, Dr. Paul Vitz, then professor of psychology at New York University, worked with a committee that examined sixty social studies and history textbooks used in public schools across the United States. The committee was amazed to find that almost every reference to the Christian influence of early America was systematically removed. Their conclusion: the writers of the commonly used textbooks exhibited paranoia of the Christian religion and intentionally censored Christianity's positive role in American history.

Intolerant, Christ-hating censors of religious expression target the media and public school curriculum because this is the best place, outside of the churches and families, to indoctrinate children and thus manipulate the future political and cultural landscape. If one succeeds in separating Godly principles from public education and the media, they deny citizens the knowledge of good and keep them from embracing the laws of God. To that extent, they are pawns of evil and subvert and destroy both the message and the messengers of righteousness.

REAPING THE WHIRLWIND

In an article entitled "Our Violent Kids," Time Magazine reported "an upsurge in the most violent types of crimes by teens." Through television, "by the age of 16, the typical child has witnessed an estimated 200,000 acts of violence, including 33,000 murders," the article went on to say.

A major study by Dr. Brandon Centerwell of the University of Washington's Department of Epidemiology concludes that "exposure to television" is related to approximately one-half of the homicides committed in the United States, or approximately 10,000 homicides annually. Exposure to television and other forms of propaganda is also related to a majority of rapes, assaults, and acts of violence according to the study.

Censoring the Christian model and denigrating biblical values has resulted in a generation where every day in the United States:

· 437 children are arrested for drinking or drunk driving · 211 children are arrested for drug abuse · 1,629 children are in adult jails · 30 children are wounded by guns · 10 children are killed by guns · 135,000 children bring a gun to school

Social scientists claim this generation's inability to define absolutes, and a growing pattern of anti-Christian behavior, may ultimately result in the collapse of the American superstructure, as situation ethics, AIDS and other forms of sexually transmitted diseases, the redefining of the family unit, and other abandonments of biblical standards of morality come to their dangerous and natural conclusion.

WILL WE EVER LEARN?

History students compare the French Revolution and the horror of persecution and torture under Robespierre, with the Revolutionary War in America that resulted in unprecedented cultural and monetary success. While citizens in America rejoiced in newfound religious liberty and freedom, more than twenty thousand people died in Paris's guillotines. The years to follow in France brought a reign of terror leading up to totalitarianism and Napoleon.

Why were the American and French Revolutions followed by such contrasting societal conclusions? The difference was that the American Revolution was fought on Christian principles, while the French Revolution was anti-God. The forces behind the French Revolution were out to eliminate Christianity as the enemy of France. A statue of a nude woman was placed on the altar of the church in Notre Dame, and the God of the Bible was proclaimed dead. Soon afterward, the French government collapsed.

Is the Fabian process of gradualism taking modern America down a similar path? Perhaps. For the past five decades Americans have allowed the liberal Left to defend the use of public funds for pornography, explicit sex education, and anti-Christian curricula. The Hollywood elite have denigrated Christian values and mocked the virtues of purity. The highest courts in the land have ruled with contemptuous decree against God, against prayer, and against the free expression of religion. Is it any wonder we have become the most profane and violent society in the industrialized world?

JUST THINK OF IT

America's Founding Fathers understood that all government is based on either a theistic or anti-theistic foundation. Adepts of history like George Washington understood that countries whose systems of government embrace national anti-theistic views ultimately come to ruin. Strong religious convictions therefore played a role in the development of the United States, which was established on Christian principles and open to all people of good will. In 1892 this was argued before the Supreme Court of the United States. After exhaustive deliberation, the Court said, "Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. [It is] impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian."

Imagine that. A nation whose laws and institutions are based on the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. Why, such a place would surely become the leader in education, invention, and the arts. Such a place would probably become a haven of religious liberty for more types and religions of people than has ever existed anywhere or at any time on earth. Instead of religious persecution and intolerance, such a place would offer hope and opportunity to the huddled masses of the earth.

By Thomas Horn

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#1. To: IndieTX (#0)

When a man has "that moment" when clarity enters his mind and the opportunity to peer inside of his own soul occurs, a come to Jesus moment so to speak, and he is able to establish the value of life, the consequences of death and that ultimate judgment, truth becomes the goal, death becomes a part of life and that ultimate judgment becomes less about fear and more about duty.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

noone222  posted on  2008-04-25   3:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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For the past five decades Americans have allowed the liberal Left to defend the use of public funds for pornography, explicit sex education, and anti-Christian curricula. The Hollywood elite have denigrated Christian values and mocked the virtues of purity. The highest courts in the land have ruled with contemptuous decree against God, against prayer, and against the free expression of religion. Is it any wonder we have become the most profane and violent society in the industrialized world?...... [just go to realjewnews.com to see the you-know-who's behind it all - Micah 4:11]

A major study by Dr. Brandon Centerwell of the University of Washington's Department of Epidemiology concludes that "exposure to television" is related to approximately one-half of the homicides committed in the United States, or approximately 10,000 homicides annually. Exposure to television and other forms of propaganda is also related to a majority of rapes, assaults, and acts of violence according to the study.

Censoring the Christian model and denigrating biblical values [see Micah 4:11...Let our eyes look upon JerUSAlem AND LET HER BE DEFILED] has resulted in a generation where every day in the United States:

· 437 children are arrested for drinking or drunk driving · 211 children are arrested for drug abuse · 1,629 children are in adult jails · 30 children are wounded by guns · 10 children are killed by guns · 135,000 children bring a gun to school

Social scientists claim this generation's inability to define absolutes, and a growing pattern of anti-Christian behavior, may ultimately result in the collapse of the American superstructure, as situation ethics, AIDS and other forms of sexually transmitted diseases, the redefining of the family unit, and other abandonments of biblical standards of morality come to their dangerous and natural conclusion. [That's their fervent hope and plan, but....see Micah 4:12-13]. ....

Adepts of history like George Washington understood that countries whose systems of government embrace national anti-theistic views ultimately come to ruin. Strong religious convictions therefore played a role in the development of the United States, which was established on Christian principles and open to all people of good will.

There is a myth and fallacy here that needs to be shattered into a thousand pieces [Ezekiel 17:1-10/John 15:1/Matthew 15:7-13]. Once again.....

AMERICA was founded on Christian principles; AMERICA was founded on Christ and the spreading of the gospel [see the First Virginia Charter], but THE "UNITED STATES" which is a private Jewish corporation [note the so-called "Star of David"/Seal of Solomon on its Great Seal] was founded on anything BUT. The First Charter of Virginia allowed Christians who came to this country to spread the gospel and to go after anyone who interfered with that. [They were also given the right to bonafide money]:

".....[And that they shall, or lawfully may, establish and cause to be made a Coin, to pass current there between the people of those several Colonies, for the more Ease of Traffick and Bargaining between and amongst them and the Natives there, of such Metal, and in such Manner and Form, as the said several Councils there shall limit and appoint.....]

Provided always, and our Will and Pleasure is, and we do hereby declare to all Christian Kings, Princes, and States, that if any Person or Persons which shall hereafter be of any of the said several Colonies and Plantations, or any other, by his, their, or any of their Licence and Appointment, shall, at any Time or Times hereafter, rob or spoil, by Sea or Land, or do any Act of unjust and unlawful Hostility to any the Subjects of Us, our Heirs, or Successors, or any the Subjects of any King, Prince, Ruler, Governor, or State, being then in League or Amitie with Us, our Heirs, or Successors, and that upon such Injury, or upon just Complaint of such Prince, Ruler, Governor, or State, or their Subjects, We, our Heirs, or Successors, shall make open Proclamation, within any of the Ports of our Realm of England, commodious for that purpose, That the said Person or Persons, having committed any such robbery, or Spoil, shall, within the term to be limited by such Proclamations, make full Restitution or Satisfaction of all such Injuries done, so as the said Princes, or others so complaining, may hold themselves fully satisfied and contented; And, that if the said Person or Persons, having committed such Robery or Spoil, shall not make, or cause to be made Satisfaction accordingly, within such Time so to be limited, That then it shall be lawful to Us, our Heirs, and Successors, to put the said Person or Persons, having committed such Robbery or Spoil, and their Procurers, Abettors, and Comforters, out of our Allegiance and Protection; And that it shall be lawful and free, for all Princes, and others to pursue with hostility the said offenders, and every of them, and their and every of their Procurers, Aiders, abettors, and comforters, in that behalf......"

www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/states/va01.htm

George Washington and the other so-called founders were Judeo-Freemasons [in the case of George Washington, a closet Roman Catholic], who prompted/faked/contrived a Revolution in order to throw over the rein of Christ and replace it with the reign of man.....666 is the number of man, not "a" man, but MAN.....666 into infinity will not ever amount to God's perfect number #7, and 666 appears on the Great Seal of said so-called founding fathers. The US Constitution is antiChrist...it doesn't mention His name once....it's now-defunct Bill of Rights promotes "freedom of religion" when this country was founded on the spreading of the GOSPEL, the unadulterated Word of God, not Roman Catholicism, not JUDAISM, or any of its satanic offshoots.

George Washington, the closet Catholic, was in cahoots with the Jew Haym Solomon, a Rothschild agent, to wage war for the Jew Banksters et al in the City of London in order to do away with our Christian charter and make us all permanent slaves to the Jews. The intent can be summed up by what Cornwallis said to George Washington at his fake surrender: A HOLY WAR will now begin against America [note: Jewish thought is that they must wage holy war against any nation that is not under their jurisdiction....."Some call it Marxism, I call it Judaism" -- Rabbi S. Wise, The American Bulletin, 1935"]. Her churches will be used to teach the Jews' religion and she will be working toward divine government which is the (Judeo)British Empire [note: British Israelism/Psalm 2:2], under the watchful eye of the Grand Architect of (Judeo)Freemasonry". The Revolutionary War plot against Christian America spelled out here, and note the Jews were behind the French Revolution as well:

www.sweetliberty.org/pers...e/jewishpersecution18.htm

"America, the land of the free and the home of the brave? or. . . the land of the fee and the home of the slave? The "American Revolution" is as well known an apparition as is the "War For Independence". Sadly, once again the spot-light is beamed upon a massive lie; in fact this one is a double-whammy. Not only was that war NOT a spontaneous uprising against tyranny, we Americans were fooled into believing we "won" that war.

Remembering that the Jews claim sole responsibility for the French Revolution -- in fact they claim responsibility for ALL revolutions-- consider the time line here:

1) The American revolution began in 1776, the alleged date of the 'founding' of the Illuminati, although the plan within Weishaupt's papers were probably given to Weishaupt by another source since the plan for World Dominion is eons old. As Douglas Reed mentioned in his chapter on the Protocols, one individual could not have devised such an intricate scheme.

2) In 1777 a wealthy Frenchman, the Marquis de Lafayette (whose full name was Marie Joseph Paul Yves Roch Gilbert du Montierin - 1757-1834):

". . . purchased a ship and with a crew of adventurers [revolutionaries] and sailed for America to fight in the revolution against the British. He joined the ranks as a major general and was assigned to the staff of George Washington. He served with distinction, leading American forces to several victories. " www.americanrevolution.com/LafayetteCitizenship.htm

According to the website cited above, Lafayette came from a long line of soldiers; he studied at the Military Academy in Versailles and became a captain in the French calvary at age 16. So we have a professionally trained military expert whipping the American colonists into a fighting force. In 1779 he persuaded the French government to send aid to the Americans.

3) After Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown Lafayette returned to Paris where he "cooperated closely with Ambassadors Benjamin Franklin and then Thomas Jefferson" (both Illuminists), possibly working out the details of the planned Constitutional Convention in 1787. (As a side note: Thomas Jefferson had commissioned an obelisk to be placed on his grave at his death.)

4) Lafayette not only fought in the American Revolution along with other French troops, upon returning to France he began to foment and then fought in the French Revolution which began in 1791. Then, again in 1830 he "became the leader of a Revolution that dethroned the Bourbons". As we learned in the last chapter, Lafayette was a Freemason and the Grand Master of the Grand Orient Lodge until his death. He was an international revolutionary! ....."

a statement allegedly made by Admiral Sir George Rodney, commander of the British Fleet, February, 1781. (All emphasis is ours.)

"They (the Jews of St. Eustatius, Caribbean Antilles) cannot too soon be taken care of - they are notorious in the cause of America and France."

"The Colonial American Jewish experience 1654 - 1770 was characterized by sharp departures from historic European anti-Semitic patterns of isolation, social, economic, physical, legislative and religious discrimination.

"The American Colonial world was growing, changing and evolving so rapidly it did not have time to focus on historical Jewish scapegoat-ism. The demands of the frontier and the expanding new American economic power needed the best of all of its people.

"Jews in Colonial America struggled and won rights that were inconceivable and nonexistent in Europe. Jews struggled for and won the rights to equal economic opportunity, to own land, to go to higher secular education, to serve in the armed militias, to vote and in some colonies to become members of the legislative bodies. In some colonies the struggle was easy, in others it was very hard.

"The American experience was not an automatic entitlement to toleration and sufferance, rather the pre-revolutionary experience was one that permitted the old discriminations to be challenged and eventually to be put aside. Hatred of the Jew and imported anti-Semitism did exist but it could not flourish in the melting pot of common need and survival.

". . . Jews traced their earliest participation in Virginia's life from the 16th century with Sir Walter Raleigh through Jamestown and the revolution. The first permanent synagogue community Kehilah ha Kadosh Beth Shalome, was founded in 1789 in Richmond, Va. . .

The "first permanent synagogue community, Kehilah ha Kadosh". . . as in Knights Kadosch degree of Freemasonry? Being admittedly redundant, let's once again review the initiation ceremony into that degree from the last chapter, according to the master of ceremony:

"The Order of Knights Kadosch has for its mission the avenging of a great crime. . . Do you fully understand that this degree is not, like much of so-called Masonry, a sham that means nothing and amounts to nothing; . . . that what you are now engaged in is real, will require the performance of duty, will exact sacrifice, will expose you to danger; and that this Order means to deal with the affairs of nations and be once more a Power in the world?"

Jerry Klinger continues:

". . . The Jews tended to settle wherever doors were open; most frequently in the urban environments but also in rural and frontier areas.

"Jews did not come seeking freedom of religion as much as freedom of opportunity. ......" www.sweetliberty.org/pers...e/jewishpersecution18.htm / [see also: www.sweetliberty.org/issu...ax/unionjack_epilogue.htm ]

And Jesuit/Freemason George Washington, holder of European bonds on British soldiers oppressing America, delivered...he made it legal, for Jews to wage holy war against Christian America, to the point we have JewCorpUSA declaring the Constitution and Bill of Rights dead, because our country is, according to them, founded on the satanic and antichrist Noahide Laws which declare Christians outlaws and subject to whipping and beheading; we have the Judeo-Communist State Department declaring the New Testament antiSemitic; a dual-citizen, antichrist, communist Jew heading the Homeland Gestapo Agency, hiring ex KGB and Stasi chiefs to rule over us; the Bible, the cross and anything Christian banned from the school, office, and "public" space, and if they get their way, THE PULPIT, whilst Jewish menorahs [sp?] are plastered in public places everywhere. We can all thank George Washington for giving them the foot in the door, to take "freedom of religion" to its now apparent conclusion: freedom of religion for Jews and the banning of the Christian religion.

George Washington's lasting gift to generations of Jews

"....Jews still worship at the Touro Synagogue in Newport, and every August they - along with other supporters of religious freedom - file into the 18th-century Georgian building to read Washington's letter and to reflect on his words once again.

"It is now no more that toleration is spoken of," Washington wrote, "as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights." He also declared that the government gave "to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance."

After centuries of persecution in Europe, Jews welcomed Washington's message of equality, which set the stage for the US to become home to the largest, most prosperous Jewish community in the world.

Washington's outreach to Jews was revolutionary, notes David Logan, dean of Roger Williams University's law school. America's Founding Fathers were unique in the world when they wrote freedom of religion into the laws of the new country, he says. "It's that pluralism and heterogeneity that make [America] a remarkable place.".......

It was America's religious freedom that allowed Jews eventually to be appointed to the highest bench in the country, said US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the keynote speaker....

But she also referred to "the persecution Jews have endured throughout history." She contrasted her experience on the bench with that of Louis Brandeis, the first Jew to become a member of the Supreme Court. He graduated from Harvard Law School in 1876 at the age of 20 with the highest scholastic average in the history of the school. Despite his qualifications, he faced open anti-Semitism among his colleagues, one of whom refused to stand next to him for a Supreme Court photo.

In contrast, Justice Ginsburg said, she and her coreligionist, Justice Stephen Breyer, faced no such opposition.

Eliot Barron of West Hartford, Conn., seated in the synagogue's balcony, nodded emphatically at Ginsburg's remarks about Jews' persecution, almost sending his yarmulke flying into the crowd below.

To Dr. Barron and his wife, Vida, both of whose parents immigrated to the US from Eastern Europe, the occasion was a meaningful reminder of the refuge America provided their relatives and fellow Jews.

2Ch 20:11 Behold, [I say, how] they reward us, to come to cast us out of thy possession, which thou hast given us to inherit. www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2Ch/2Ch020.html#11 / www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat021.html#38 / www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/21/38.html / The kingdom was taken from them, and given to us: www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/21/43.html

Logan, too, can bear witness to that. His father was a Sorbonne-educated lawyer from the Czech Republic who escaped the Nazis by working as a clown's assistant. He later fled to the US, where he worked as a busboy.

Logan credits the social mobility of Jewish immigrants such as his father to the religious freedom guaranteed by the American government. "There were definitely individuals, even powerful individuals, who behaved in an intolerant way," he said. "There remain intolerant individuals. [In the US,] someone has the right to be intolerant, but they can't have the government help them."

www.csmonitor.com/2004/0915/p12s01-lire.html

UNLESS THE ONES BEING INTOLERANT ARE JEWS, OF COURSE!

"Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. [It is] impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian."

Imagine that. A nation whose laws and institutions are based on the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind.......such a place would offer hope and opportunity to the huddled masses of the earth.

And THAT is God's plan....has been from the beginning:

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat025.html#34 / www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/25/34.html

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Isa/9/6.html

Isa 9:7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Jesus Christ, King of Israel, the same yesterday, today, and forever, has promised us this, when He breaks our yoke:

2Sa 7:10 Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, ["I was not sent but to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel"] and will plant them,[see also Ezekiel 34/John 10] that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime,

1Ch 17:9 Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning,

Zec 2:4 And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited [as] towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein: www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Zec/Zec002.html#4

Rev 21:16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. [about 1400 miles] The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-27   13:13:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, IndieTx (#2)

ALL IN THE DRAGON FAMILY

THE MEROVINGIAN ANCESTRY OF THE

2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES

www.watch.pair.com/dragon-lineage.html

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-04-27   13:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#3)

whoaaaa.....is that article new??? I haven't seen that one before....I noticed one of the links is from a site I've been looking at to try to piece together some puzzle pieces. While I don't ALWAYS agree with watch.pair, I think I am going to find this very "illuminating" to use one of "their" words.

The Canaanite territory of northern Israel was later occupied by the tribe of Dan, whose worship of Baal/Pan involved such fertility rites at Mount Hermon, also called Mount Sion. Merovingians are the offspring of the tribe of Dan which intermarried with the Canaanite Tuatha De Danann, also known as the Dragon Lords of Anu because they were said to be the offspring of the fallen angels (Anunnaki).

I have been trying to find the link between Dan and Cain forever....is this it??? I thought the Tribe of Dan and the Tuatha De Danaan were one and the same! I can't wait to get into this! Here I have been struggling, and watch.pair probably already has it all figured out!

When God dispersed the northern tribes for their wickedness, the tribe of Dan migrated to Greece, [see "....59-63 Jews fled Rome and Greece to Khazaria to avoid forced conversion to Christianity... The Thirteenth Tribe www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm ; our end-time enemy "O Greece" www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Zec/Zec009.html#13 ; "O Dan" www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Amo/8/14.html ] .....and later to France and the British Isles [BRITISH-ISRAELISM educate-yourself.org/cn/b...elhiddenhand10jul05.shtml I HAVE ONE MAJOR DISAGREEMENT WITH THIS....CHRIST SAID MY KINGDOM IS NOT ****NOW**** OF THIS WORLD....AND "WORLD" HERE IS AKIN TO "WORLD ORDER, GOVERNMENT", PRIOR TO HIS CRUCIFIXION AND RESURRECTION] where they established pagan priesthoods and royal dynasties of the demonic bloodline:

THANKS MUCH!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-27   14:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#2) (Edited)

before Christianity is overthrown

Has it happened yet? Can we get a consensus on the answer? No one seems to know for sure. Oh well, here's a cartoon for statists:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_-GL1AJFobrQ/R0NAtDBIxDI/AAAAAAAAAK8/Ify00TAuN2k/s1600- h/jesusandmo.jpg

nobody  posted on  2008-04-27   14:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#3)

2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES

www.watch.pair.com/dragon-lineage.html

Interesting.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-27   14:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, ItIsa1mosttoolate (#1)

Christendom is too divided (for now) to withstand persecution; especially if it is dealt out piecemeal. The attack against the wacky Mormon group is a test balloon, IMO.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-27   14:24:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#7)

I don't totally deny that, however, Mormons don't serve the same Jesus Christ in the Holy Scriptures...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-27   14:26:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: nobody (#5)

before Christianity is overthrown

Has it happened yet?

www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/16/18.html

in advance, don't have time at the moment to address the "Peter" thing....see cuttingedge.org

www.cuttingedge.org/articles/rc129.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-27   14:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#7)

mmmm, not sure...maybe when the Noahide Laws are thrown into their face they will wake up and fight for CHRIST's kingdom, instead of the antichrists'.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mic/Mic004.html#13

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-27   14:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#9) (Edited)

Is there any appreciably-sized organized group representative of Christianity?

If not, I fear all this verbal laziness in needing a convenient label here has become palpably non-worthwhile.

nobody  posted on  2008-04-27   14:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#10)

Nothing like a little martyrdom for spreading the Gospel.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-27   14:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robin (#7)

a test balloon

Agreed.

Be careful to think before you attach adjectives originated by the mainstream press such as "whacky group" to others when we really only know what they choose to tell us.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

noone222  posted on  2008-04-28   4:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: noone222 (#13)

I do not admire some of that group's ideas, so I'm explaining which verse I'm on (and not yet to) in Pastor Martin Niemöller's famous poem.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-28   10:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: robin (#14) (Edited)

I do not admire some of that group's ideas,

I'm not certain about their true ideas, but understand how anyone might be against those that have been described in the media. It's important to note that scripture supports polygamy, an idea that has taken on evil connotations based upon puritanism in America. Now I'm not a polygamist, but strict adherents to scripture might be. I'm not claiming that these people are strict adherents of scripture because I don't know that to be true either.

Again, if this group has accepted State funds (unscriptural enrichment) they have also invited the State auditors.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

noone222  posted on  2008-04-28   11:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: IndieTX (#0)

An 8 year old article? Why? Is there any way to verify that the police did, indeed, tell a woman to quit distributing religious literature from her own home? Or is this just a sucker line?

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-04-28   11:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: noone222 (#15)

It's not just the polygamy, it's the "lost boys" and the conditioning of women to be so thoroughly submissive to men. There are worse ways for women to end up, I'm aware, but there are also better. They are too isolated, IMO. They have a right to live the way they want to, and I to my opinions.

Last night on the news I saw the end of a segment on this group.
They showed a young couple, the young husband trying to comfort his distraught wife, weeping over the loss of their babies to foster homes. The reporter says, "No charges have been brought against anyone". The camera panned some photos of these beautiful small children and then this young father says, "I don't know how we got caught up in all this".

Neither do I. And I hope they sue the govt when this is over.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-28   11:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: nobody (#11)

Is there any appreciably-sized organized group representative of Christianity?

well, i suppose...but probably only God and they know who they are :)

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Psa/Psa083.html#3

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev002.html#17

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-30   12:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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