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Title: Obama's strange politics
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Published: Apr 26, 2008
Author: Star Parker
Post Date: 2008-04-26 13:09:37 by Jethro Tull
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It's been equal-opportunity week to attack Barack Obama because of his remarks that seemed to justify a U.S. invasion of Pakistan. Democrats and Republicans alike had a field day at the expense of the poor senator. In the midst of all this, he addressed the annual meeting of the National Council of La Raza, and talked about realities at home. But those remarks, which I found at least as provocative and troubling, got little public attention. NCLR is sort of the Hispanic NAACP. Speaking before an audience of about 2,000, Obama, according to The Wall Street Journal, "compared last year's massive immigration rallies led by Hispanics to the civil-rights marches of African- Americans in the 1960s ..." Regarding the population of illegals in our country today, Obama assured the crowd that "I will never walk away from the 12 million undocumented immigrants ..." How odd for a candidate for the presidency of the United States to include looking out for the interests of illegals as a campaign promise. He appears to have already deemed these folks immigrants. The first and central question, that they arrived and remain here illegally, seems of secondary concern to the Illinois senator, a Harvard-trained lawyer. They are just "undocumented immigrants." We just haven't had a chance to get the paperwork done. Obama is running as a new kind of politician. And it certainly is new for someone campaigning for our nation's highest office, aspiring to assume responsibilities to provide for our defense and to secure liberty for "ourselves," to see representation of the concerns of millions who are here illegally as part of those responsibilities. Can it be that Obama thinks he is running for secretary-general of the United Nations and not president of the United States? How about his equating immigration rallies to the civil-rights movement of the 1960s? The analogy is, to say the least, bizarre. And it again gives a sense that the senator's left-wing vision of the world is far closer to his heart than to our own Constitution and how it relates to our citizens. The injustices that blacks suffered had to do with lack of equal treatment and due process of law for our own citizens because of their race. The civil rights of blacks, U.S. citizens, protected under our Constitution, that were being violated were clear. What exactly are the rights of illegals that, according to Obama, are being violated? They have violated us, not we them. The Washington Times reported recently about a heretofore-secret 2005 report done by the Drug Enforcement Administration that discusses Islamic radicals who are "camouflaging themselves as Hispanics while conducting business with violent drug-trafficking organizations." According to the report, "multiple Middle Eastern drug-trafficking and terrorist cells in the U.S. are funding terrorism networks overseas with the aid of Mexican cartels." Do you get the idea that Barack Obama has some kind of strange idea about what it means to protect this country? Obama seemed quite at home with the La Raza crowd, dishing out business-as-usual ethnic politics. After conjuring up the mother of all entitlements -- that anyone who can sneak in here is entitled to become a citizen -- he then assured them that virtually every aspect of their life would be benevolently protected by a government under his leadership. But as Obama shared his vision of America as welfare state to this audience of Hispanics, he failed to also share that, as our nation's youngest ethnic demographic, they have the most to be concerned about regarding the shaky ground on which this welfare state stands. According to the census bureau, 34 percent of the Hispanic population is under the age of 18. This compared to 32 percent of blacks and 22 percent of non-Hispanic whites. So Hispanics, and blacks, will disproportionately get washed into the sea of red ink of Social Security and Medicare entitlements that we have promised future generations, but do not have the money to pay. On the other side of the coin, Hispanics, and blacks, would disproportionately benefit today by being allowed to fund their own private retirement accounts in lieu of paying payroll taxes. But they'll never hear this from Obama. Star Parker is president of CURE, the Coalition on Urban Renewal and Education. Her e-mail address is parker@urbancure.org. Poster Comment: The man is becoming a bigger ball sack with each passing day......
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#76. To: FOH, robin, Mudboy Slim (#26)
FOH is a clueless Regressive. It is no secret around the web that I voted for W, and I recall specifically recall telling Mudboy Slim on FU. I have voted third party for prez. I have voted GOP. I have never, ever voted for a DEM for prez. After the second psychotic term of Bush, I will not support the GOP this time. As with most of your rants, your thought process appears to spring from the same sense of logic as Pavlov's dog.
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boot licker...
We are left with four choices: * Vote for a psycho. I think option C is best. Vote for someone who won't win. That's because even if they don't win, voting for them makes a statement. Voting for the least of 3 evils won't do any "least of evil" good anyway since your vote is, at best, one vote in 130 million. Odds of you making a difference are a lot less than your getting struck by lightning sometime next week. Because of the chance of your vote having an impact on who wins is so electron-microscopically small, it's better spent making a statement in favor of a non-winner.
Because of the chance of your vote having an impact on who wins is so electron-microscopically small, it's better spent making a statement in favor of a non-winner. well said. i wholeheartedly agree.
body snatchers bump
That is certainly my position. Of the 3, he's the least known. What was that game show from the 70's where you can either take the prize they display or take whatever the hell they put behind curtain B. Sorry, but given the death and destruction Cain has on display as a prize for America and the world. I'll take curtain B. And while we don't know what he'll do about Iraq, it remains to O's credit that he was against invading Iraq before the whole mess started. Back when the majority voted for it.
Beat The Devil?
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
It was "Let's Make a Deal"
I know, I was just playing off a joke I made earlier today about man named Faust employed at Harvard U in some capacity. Let's Make A Deal is earily similar to that theme, however.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Beat the Devil is a 1953 film directed by John Huston and starring Humphrey Bogart. It was co-authored by Huston and Truman Capote, and loosely based upon a novel of the same name by British critic Claud Cockburn, writing under the pseudonym James Helvick. It was intended by Huston as a tongue-in-cheek spoof of his earlier masterpiece, The Maltese Falcon, and of films of its genre. Knew I'd heard that phrase somewhere.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
I believe about 19 million of us made that statement with Perot. The response was to make it more difficult for a third party to repeat that embarrassment to the major parties. If we had a None of the Above on the ballot, that might gain the most votes. In the Dem primary in MI, 237,762 people (40%) bothered to go to the poll to cast a vote for "uncommitted" which appeared on the ballot. The simple fact remains that we will get A or B. If we find A may cause terminal illness, while B is likely to only cause serious illness, we may choose to vote against A (or vice versa). It is not picking the best option, but rejecting the worst option.
If we find A may cause terminal illness, while B is likely to only cause serious illness, we may choose to vote against A (or vice versa). It is not picking the best option, but rejecting the worst option. That's the argument the RNC made while lefties and 'moderates' selected Juan McTraitor for the pubbie wing of the CFR Party nomination...what a load. Ophiles. The other Marxists...
Interesting, n_c, I didn't realize you had voted for Dubyuh. I don't blame you for being disappointed, but I reckon we have different reasons for being pissed off at the guy...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, If we find A may cause terminal illness, while B is likely to only cause serious illness, yep
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
No, you're all just attempting to crucify Obama for the same stances that both of the other candidates and almost all the defeated candidates hold. Don't you realize how irrational you sound? BTW, RP never made an issue of illegal immigration. Why?
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
The Immigration Question by Ron Paul
no, we're attempting to get at the truth about Obama. we ALL know the others are dogs. there's no one here attempting to make them out to be something they're not. if our attempts at truth seeking and fact checking and expressing our opinion sounds irrational to you, so be it. that's your opinion.
you just defeated your own argument, iconoclast. i thought you and the other o'philes were trying to tell us he is different than all the others.
Don't you realize how irrational you sound? BTW, RP never made an issue of illegal immigration. Why? Pantload, as already pointed out to you above. All of McHillObama should be crucified right up through the top of the Amerikan quisling chain to their Masters...not supported or legitimized in any way! On top of that, this racist Marxist you love so much is lying to your face and you guys all lap it up. So, you really were never what you claimed to be and only worked to subvert the r3VOLution...to this moment. Feh
They're frauds. The question is why...
I just got done canvassing for Obama today. I've been out going door to door all weekend. We have changed allot of registrations for the Oregon Primary and there is a great deal of enthusiasum for Barack out there. One old man who is voting Republican was sceptical at first about me taking his registration buit was won over by the fact I was willing to stand and listen to his point of view on McCain whom he tears up over (concerning his alleged heroism.) We take registrations for everyone and turn all of them in as a curtesy to the process. I like the floks I have been working with and they are very very well organized and know what they are doing. There is a picture of Ron Paul up in the office of the Eugene coordinator and I asked why she had had it taken (It is with her.) She said he was the only real Republican who has been in the race. He is different, in a good way and I am proud top support Senator Obama for the office of the Presidency of the United States.
Obama, McCain, Clinton--I would be proud to support the people pulling the rope on any (or all) of them. Not a one in that bunch fit to be elected to the position of dog catcher, yet we are expected to believe that a country with a population approaching 300 million people can't do any better than that? BS!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. hunnerd
I always thought it a shame FDR did not get William O. Douglas for his VP his forth term as he had wanted as Truman was a mediocre party hack who made a lousy POTUS. I also thought that Wayne Morse in 1060 would of made and excellent president. But this time we do have aq good choice with Senator Obama running, and when he gets in office, he will prove it. I have confidence in him.
electrocuted as a child when he stuck his finger in the electrical outlet. One less commie in the world and one that did a LOT of damage to this country.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. electrocuted as a child when he stuck his finger in the electrical outlet. One less commie in the world and one that did a LOT of damage to this country. That SOB did us up and planted Communism for good in America...
Sorry, put I don't have the same Pavlovian response to the word Communist as you. FDR was a great man and no communist. Believe what you want to, but I don't buy it.
Believe what you want to, but I don't buy it. The fact that he was one of the main instigators of many communist programs doesn't cause you to think that he may have been more than just a bit fond of the guy he called Uncle Joe? You do know that he really, really liked Stalin and that many of the people in his cabinet were communists--or did you not know that? I thought that almost everyone who knew much about that period of history knew that he was sympathetic to the communists but maybe you missed those lessons. As for whether you "buy" anything or not, I am not selling anything. Just posting a few facts now and then to offset some of the bs/agitprop that gets posted on behalf of communists and unAmerican freaks like those the establishment picks for their figureheads and folks like you think are wonderful people.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Ease up on Corn Flaker. They caint heppit... BTW, the original 911 was Pearl Harbor and that led to the bogus Cold War in which Communists spent decades effing us up, to the point we're at now with another NAU selection barreling toward us. FDR->Alger Hiss->UN->World Communist Order
My name may be Michael Joseph McCarthy, but I don't find commies under every rock as my name sake did. FDR inherited a horrible situation. Coolidge and Hoover had left the country in a horrible way. I don't care of you found his solutions too collective for your taste, FDR did a good job redistributing wealth - something that should be done today - and did a good job getting America working again. I found some of his views elitist and didn't like some things about the man, but on the balance we were lucky to have him. He was a very good POTUS.
Lay off the name calling please. It's 'ferret,' 'Ferret Mike,' or Mike McCarthy. I have used IsherwoodWilliams/3PantherEightieDuce/Bicyclethug and countless nicks disrupting at Free Republic. LP is a forum I used to post at. Don't tie me in there. I am not trying to provoke you, please stay in a similar modus. Thanks.
I have used IsherwoodWilliams/3PantherEightieDuce/Bicyclethug and countless nicks disrupting at Free Republic. LP is a forum I used to post at. Don't tie me in there. I am not trying to provoke you, please stay in a similar modus. Thanks. heheheh
And the old sob's answer was to chop up the Constitution and cast it out the windows of the White House in bits and pieces. The same answer as Lincoln and Wilson had and the same as many since them have had. There is no wonder America is going down the tubes, the wonder is that it has lasted as long as it has.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Your reading comprehension lets you down again. I have maintained all the way back before he dropped out that he simply did not address ANY of the issues that the electorate gave a damn about ... choosing again and again to lecture them on Constitution 101.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
well said...and how about the that pesky little factoid that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor in advance.
The Original American 911. Dragged us into a war that 80% of America wanted no part of. Led to the World Communists setting up shrine on Rockefeller property in NY. The deeply entrenched moorings of the perpetual Warfare-Welfare State were set. Exactly 60 years apart save for a few months...FDR worship and adoration is an early warning sign for me.
Oh, how I have misjudged y'all .... consider me appropriately humbled.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
you ought be humbled by that illuminating declaration.
Thank you. You know what happens when you bring up his complicity or foreknowledge of that "sneak attack." His supporters huff and puff and get all overcome with a case of the vapors even though that has been proven over and over. Those who worship at the altar of FDR will never accept the truth about their hero, just keep yammering about what a wonderful man and great hero he was.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.n_c is a "Progressive" IRS-worshipping boot licker.
#77. To: nolu_chan (#76)
#78. To: FOH (#77)
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#79. To: nolu_chan (#78)
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#80. To: robin (#24)
* Vote for a DEM.
* Vote for someone who will not win.
* Stay home.
#81. To: Pinguinite (#80)
I think option C is best. Vote for someone who won't win. That's because even if they don't win, voting for them makes a statement. Voting for the least of 3 evils won't do any "least of evil" good anyway since your vote is, at best, one vote in 130 million. Odds of you making a difference are a lot less than your getting struck by lightning sometime next week.
#82. To: christine (#81)
#83. To: Dakmar (#64)
I think most Obama supporters honestly believe him to be less likely to start new wars than the other two morons being hailed by the establishment.
#84. To: Pinguinite, angle (#83)
What was that game show from the 70's where you can either take the prize they display or take whatever the hell they put behind curtain B.
#85. To: Dakmar (#84)
#86. To: Pinguinite, angle (#85)
#87. To: Pinguinite (#85)
Beat the Devil (1953 film) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
#88. To: Pinguinite, robin (#80)
I think option C is best. Vote for someone who won't win. That's because even if they don't win, voting for them makes a statement.
#89. To: nolu_chan (#88)
The simple fact remains that we will get A or B.
#90. To: nolu_chan (#76)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#91. To: nolu_chan (#88)
The simple fact remains that we will get A or B.
#92. To: christine (#16)
but, robin, no one here is defending reagan or mcCain.
#93. To: iconoclast (#92)
www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul314.html - 11k - Immigration and the Welfare State by Rep. Ron Paul
www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul269.html - 10k - Ron Paul 2008 › Issues › Border Security and Immigration Reform
www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/ABC News: Ron Paul: No Benefits for Illegal Immigrants
abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=3985423&page=1 - Ron Paul: "No Amnesty, No Welfare for Illegal Aliens" | All ...
www.allamericanpatriots.com/48725163_capitaL eLs: Ron Paul: Lockbox Illegal Aliens Out Of Social Security
capitalels.blogspot.com/2007/Ron Paul Candidate for President 2008 Economic Issues ...
www.freedomworks.org/action/Ron Paul News - The New York Times - Narrowed by 'ILLEGAL ALIENS'
topics.nytimes.com/.../people/p/ron_paul/Totalization is a Bad Idea
www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2007/tst010807.htm - 7k - Ron Paul on Immigration
www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Immigration.htm - 29k -
#94. To: iconoclast (#92)
No, you're all just attempting to crucify Obama for the same stances that both of the other candidates and almost all the defeated candidates hold.
#95. To: iconoclast (#92)
No, you're all just attempting to crucify Obama for the same stances that both of the other candidates and almost all the defeated candidates hold.
#96. To: iconoclast (#92)
No, you're all just attempting to crucify Obama for the same stances that both of the other candidates and almost all the defeated candidates hold.
#97. To: christine (#95)
you just defeated your own argument, iconoclast. i thought you and the other o'philes were trying to tell us he is different than all the others.
#98. To: christine (#95)
Eugene, Oregon, Host of the 2008 U.S. Olympic Trials
#99. To: Ferret Mike (#98)
I am proud top support Senator Obama for the office of the Presidency of the United States.
Lord Acton
#100. To: James Deffenbach (#99)
#101. To: James Deffenbach (#99)
Eugene, Oregon, Host of the 2008 U.S. Olympic Trials
#102. To: Ferret Mike (#101)
I always thought it a shame FDR did not get
Lord Acton
#103. To: James Deffenbach (#102)
I always thought it a shame FDR did not get
#104. To: James Deffenbach (#102)
Eugene, Oregon, Host of the 2008 U.S. Olympic Trials
#105. To: Ferret Mike (#104)
Sorry, put I don't have the same Pavlovian response to the word Communist as you. FDR was a great man and no communist.
Lord Acton
#106. To: James Deffenbach (#105)
#107. To: James Deffenbach (#105)
Eugene, Oregon, Host of the 2008 U.S. Olympic Trials
#108. To: FOH (#106)
Eugene, Oregon, Host of the 2008 U.S. Olympic Trials
#109. To: Ferret Mike (#108)
Lay off the name calling please. It's 'ferret,' 'Ferret Mike,' or Mike McCarthy.
#110. To: Ferret Mike (#107)
FDR inherited a horrible situation.
Lord Acton
#111. To: Jethro Tull (#93)
Your cut and paste.
#112. To: James Deffenbach (#110)
And the old sob's answer was to chop up the Constitution and cast it out the windows of the White House in bits and pieces. The same answer as Lincoln and Wilson had and the same as many since them have had. There is no wonder America is going down the tubes, the wonder is that it has lasted as long as it has.
#113. To: christine, James Deffenbach (#112)
well said...and how about the that pesky little factoid that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor in advance.
#114. To: christine (#94)
if our attempts at truth seeking and fact checking
#115. To: iconoclast (#114)
No, you're all just attempting to crucify Obama for the same stances that both of the other candidates and almost all the defeated candidates hold.
#116. To: christine (#112)
well said...and how about the that pesky little factoid that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor in advance.
Lord Acton
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