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Title: Hillary's illegals - "No woman is illegal"
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The Washington Times
URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps ... 80112/EDITORIAL/334022442/1013
Published: Jan 12, 2008
Author: THE WASHINGTON TIMES EDITORIAL
Post Date: 2008-04-26 13:33:27 by robin
Ping List: *The Border*
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"No woman is illegal," Hillary Clinton declared Thursday to campaign-rally attendees after a man said his wife is an illegal alien. The applause followed. Thus does Mrs. Clinton put her own twist on a very common immigration dodge: pretending that when critics of the Bush-Kennedy open-borders philosophy use the term "illegal alien," they refer not merely to matters of immigration status, but to some innate human characteristic. To hear this classically impassioned campaign nonsequitur issue from the same candidate who cared so deeply that she flip-flopped on drivers licenses for illegals two months ago was rich. But so is its etymology, which is interesting in its own right. In its pre-Hillary incarnation, a very similar phrase first surfaced widely three years ago thanks to Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahoney, who said, "No person is illegal" to parishioners in 2004 amid a denunciation of a state bill to secure drivers' licenses. Cardinal Mahoney's imprimatur, which lent a stamp of Catholic social-justice approval in many eyes, gave the phrase resonance beyond what mere partisans and hardcore activists could provide. It caught on. The phrase shows up in graffiti on sidewalks, on banners in protests — anywhere open-borders enthusiasts need to denounce tighter U.S. immigration enforcement. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, Ohio Democrat, has squeaked it time and again on the campaign trail. "No person is illegal,"shout Arizona protesters angry at members of the state's very active border-security movement. Of course, Hillary's variant also has other important overtones. The most significant ones harken back to the abortion battles of the 1960s and 1970s, when "Keep abortion legal" issued from the mouths of many of the same voters Mrs. Clinton now courts. The slogan may subtly accomplish one of Mrs. Clinton's most important campaign tasks: aligning herself as closely as possible with the history of women's rights in America. To do this, she must continually find ways to remind voters that, as the first serious female presidential contender in American history, she is different. This will entail theatrics, of which the phrase is a part. But as a nonsequitur and a dodge, it is both true — no person is inherently "illegal," just their immigration status — and meaningless in the context. No border-enforcement activist believes that a "person" is innately illegal. Via this nonsequitur, and by imputing meanness or hatred, "No woman is illegal" and "No person is illegal" help open-borders, pro-amnesty politicians evade an honest consideration of the nation's illegal-immigration conundrum. Don't be fooled.
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#1. To: robin (#0)
Like Obama, these views make her unfit for office.
nolu_chan's list of choices: The major GOP accomplishments are aiding and abetting a psycho. We are left with four choices: 'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Now you spam the stupidity over on the Stalinist dyke's thread... Admit it, you like charades. You actually like playing the Establishment's game and pretending you have a voice in their selections. Maybe you're just stupid. That could be it. Never thought of that I guess.
n_c is a "Progressive" IRS-worshipping boot licker. Figures you two 'hang' together...
To Hell with Hillary, she threw a shoe at me last time I showed up at her back door begging for spaghetti.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
So we're supposed to care about nolu_chan's analysis? Oh my gosh. Here's a choice: vote for the guy running against the Marxist who would take every last freedom you currently enjoy. Sorry, folks, but that means voting for McCain (for all his faults).
Yeah, McLittleWhorgeTheNorthAmericanUnioner is better than these 2 RATS. NEWSFLASH: THEY are ALL Globalist RATS of the same cabal...have fun with your Traitor (R) and since you've already sold your soul, at least play the game as best you can.
LOL! It may not have been the spaghetti, she may have thought you were about to catch her getting busy with Chelsea's daddy, Web Hubbell (sp?).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I tell ya, she paid a pretty penny for that phrase from some NY ad agency.
FOH is a clueless Regressive. It is no secret around the web that I voted for W, and I recall specifically recall telling Mudboy Slim on FU. I have voted third party for prez. I have voted GOP. I have never, ever voted for a DEM for prez. After the second psychotic term of Bush, I will not support the GOP this time. As with most of your rants, your thought process appears to spring from the same sense of logic as Pavlov's dog.
More spam!
I see that my choices covered all possibilities and reduced you to a ranting puddle of piss. We can stay home and get the DEM or PUB. We can vote third party and get the DEM or PUB. We will get the DEM or PUB. I did not label McCain a psycho. I responded to Jethro Tull who labeled him a psycho. Which leaves us getting either a psycho or the DEM.
More gas.
Look, if you're the same POS that posted under nolu chan at elpee, then just go take a flying leap right now...cuz if you are, you're a boot licking little twink!
I am the same nolu chan on F4um, FR, FU, and LP. And you still can't form a logical argument. You substitute name-calling for intelligent argument.
You are the same old (Marxist-)IRS shill you've always been? Now an Ophile to boot?
no one i think is in my tree... :)
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
What is it with you and this labelling shtick, did you inherit the Dymo family fortune?
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
I just cut the bull once I spot it...
It's beginning to sound much like the rigorous conformity demanded by the mainstream party.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Ophiles that shill for the (Marxist-)IRS have no use for me nor I for them...
There's a reason Hillary's honey smells like vinegar and she's covered with flies...something like that.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
We may not have an impact nationally but getting out and voting for local candidates and issues is still important. I will NOT vote for ANY Republicrat choice.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
I've seen very little evidence that BigJohn is a psycho. I think that Urban Legend resulted from folks who figger they'd go crazy if they were in a Vietnamese prison camp for 5 years...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, He might well be nuts. He's certainly a North American Unioner...
Damn straight.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...?ArtNum=78996&Disp=29#C29 CORRECTION: I should have said Bush was characterized as a psycho, as in what did Obama do about "impeaching the Psycho." McCain has had his moments, as when he said to reporters in 2000, "I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live." That is an ethnic equivalent to the N-word. It is not expected from a presidential candidate. We will probably hear about it in response to Jeremiah Wright associations to Obama in the fall campaign. Asian outrage followed, as expressed by the following op-ed. Feb. 23, 2000 San Francisco Examiner op-ed page By William Wong Dear Sen. McCain: I am a gook, even though I was not one of your North Vietnamese captors who tortured you and other American prisoners of war more than 30 years ago. I am a gook, even though I was not a Viet Cong sympathizer who helped the North Vietnamese Army battle Americans and South Vietnamese soldiers. I am a gook, even though I was not allied with the South Vietnamese military who fought alongside American GI's in that unfortunate war in which you and other Navy pilots were shot down. I am a gook, even though I did not join the North Koreans and Chinese soldiers in fighting South Koreans and Americans a half a century ago. I am a gook, even though I did not march with Mao Zedong or take up arms with Chiang Kai-Shek during the Chinese civil war in the 1930s and 1940s. I am a gook, even though I was nowhere near the Japanese Imperial military that cut a violent swath through East and Southeast Asia and the Pacific islands in the 1940s. I am a gook, even though I did not do battle alongside Filipino soldiers when the Japanese military invaded the island nation that had been an American colony for the first half of the 20th century. I am a gook, even though I wasn't among the brave Filipinos who fought valiantly for their independence after they thought the United States would grant them freedom after the Spanish- American War in 1898. I am a gook, even though I was not around when European imperial powers carved up a weakened China in the mid-19th century. I am a gook, even though I was not among the desperate men fleeing the Pearl River delta region of southeastern China for the lure of gold in California in the late 1840s and early 1850s. I am a gook, even though I did not suffer from the virulent bigotry of white Californians who beat and killed Chinese men for working the gold fields, building the transcontinental railroads, toiling in the farm lands and in low-level city jobs like laundries and vegetable peddling and explosives handling during the last half of the 19th century. I am a gook, even though I was not personally excluded from legal entry into the United States because of the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, which was passed by a hateful U.S. Congress, goaded on by hateful white union leaders, politicians, and editors. I am a gook, even though I did not have to pay extra taxes on my business or bribe politicians and policemen for the right to earn a living from the mid-19th century to the mid-20th century. I am a gook, even though I was not Vincent Chin, who was beaten to death in 1982 with a baseball bat by a couple of white Detroit autoworkers who mistook him for being Japanese at a time when the American auto industry scapegoated the Japanese automakers. I am a gook, even though I was not among the young school children killed or wounded by Patrick Edward Purdy in the 1989 Stockton school yard massacre. I am a gook, even though I was not Jim Ming Hai Loo who was killed in 1989 by two white North Carolina brothers who thought he and his friends were Vietnamese. I am a gook, even though I was born in Oakland, California; lost my primary language (a Chinese dialect) because I knew I needed English to survive in this often intolerant society; and was unable to fully communicate with my immigrant parents before they died after devoting their adult lives to rearing seven children to be productive citizens of the United States. William Wong is an independent journalist and Examiner columnist.
I had forgotten about the "gook" comment...not very appealing. Still, can you blame the guy considering how he was treated? We can't even imagine the hell he survived...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, McGook the manchurian candidate...
CHUCK BALDWIN Just what we need for President. A radio talk show host who has a mail order degree from a diploma mill, and was a state chairman for a group of wingnuts who advocate for "censorship of media outlets that promote an 'anti-family' agenda;" and "enforcement of a traditional vision of life." EDUCATION: After graduating from La Porte High School in 1971 Chuck attended Midwestern Baptist College in Pontiac, Michigan, for two years. He then married and moved to Lynchburg, Virginia. He enrolled in the Thomas Road Bible Institute (now known as the Liberty Bible Institute at Liberty University) and graduated with his Bible Diploma. He then earned his Bachelor of Theology and Master of Theology degrees via external degree programs from Christian Bible College in Rocky Mount, North Carolina. Chuck received his first honorary Doctor of Divinity degree from Christian Bible College. He received his second honorary Doctor of Divinity degree from Trinity Baptist College in Jacksonville, Florida. On this occasion Dr. Baldwin brought the Commencement Address to a crowd of over 5,000. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Bible_College American Accrediting Association of Theological Institutions (AAATI) is a Christian nonprofit organization offering educational accreditation, based in Rocky Mount, North Carolina.[1] It was formed in 1983.[citation needed] The composition of the board is unknown.[citation needed] According to Steve Levicoff, it is an accreditation mill[2] operated by Dr. Cecil Johnson, president of Christian Bible College, a [distance education] Bible college based in Rocky Mount that Levicoff identifies as a diploma mill.[3] AAATI is not recognized as an accreditor by either the United States Department of Education and Council for Higher Education Accreditation.[4] AAATI is not required to be recognized by the groups mentioned above. It will approve accreditation to qualified schools for an initial fee ($125 in 1993) and annual renewal fee each year if re-approved, as described by Steve Levicoff,[3] who called it a meaningless accreditation mill that unaccredited religious schools cite as "approval" or "accreditation" in order to avoid appearing to be diploma mills.[3] Affiliated institutions Institutions that have claimed membership in, or accreditation from, the AAATI include: RADIO TALK SHOW HOST AND BROADCASTER: For eight years, Dr. Baldwin has been the host of a lively, hard-hitting radio talk show called, "Chuck Baldwin Live," a daily call-in show in which Dr. Baldwin addressed current event topics from a conservative Christian point of view. The show has been highly successful in helping to elect conservatives to local, state and national offices. "Chuck Baldwin Live" has been regarded as perhaps the most influential voice in the Florida Panhandle for conservative, Christian principles. Thousands of concerned citizens have been informed and inspired to social and political activism as a direct result of this radio talk show. Chuck's guest list reads like a "Who's Who" from both the local and national scene. Currently, "Chuck Baldwin Live...From Crossroad Baptist Church," airs on multiple stations throughout Florida and Alabama. This broadcast is a live recording of Pastor Baldwin's Sunday sermons. MORAL MAJORITY LEADER: From 1980-1984 Dr. Baldwin served as Pensacola Chairman, and then State Chairman of the Florida Moral Majority. Through these efforts many successful rallies and conferences were conducted. (One rally drew nearly 2,000 people during a driving rain storm.) Pro-family legislation was enacted, and Christians were educated as to moral-political information and involvement. Also, thousands of new conservative voters were generated. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Majority Some issues for which the Moral Majority campaigned included:[4]
You can have your Marxist Black Nationalist IRS-expanding baby-butchering gun-grabber that's been vetted by the cabal as NAU-ready...I'll take an American, Chuck Baldwin.
Still, can you blame the guy considering how he was treated? I can understand but it will give ammunition to an Obama campaign to counter usage of a Jeremiah Wright attack. McCain did not sit in a church where the preacher made a remark when he was not there. This is the candidate speaking. The campaign could devolve into a slimefest where everything but important issues are discussed.
We will all take the DEM or PUBBIE who is elected. Then your wingnut with the mail-order degree, who shilled for censorship and enforcement of his religious beliefs upon all, can go back to radio.
Oh, how cute. You still think they are elections...HAHAHAHA!
You still think they are elections...HAHAHAHA! Oh How cute. You still think a radio talk show host with a mail-order degree from a diploma mill is a candidate...HAHAHAHA!
#2. To: Jethro Tull, nolu_chan (#1)
#3. To: robin (#2)
We are left with four choices:
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#4. To: robin, nolu_chan (#2)
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#5. To: robin (#0)
This will entail theatrics, of which the phrase is a part. But as a nonsequitur and a dodge, it is both true — no person is inherently "illegal," just their immigration status — and meaningless in the context. No border-enforcement activist believes that a "person" is innately illegal.
#6. To: robin (#2)
nolu_chan's list of choices: The major GOP accomplishments are aiding and abetting a psycho. We are left with four choices: Vote for a psycho. Vote for a DEM. Vote for someone who will not win. Stay home.
#7. To: DeepPockets (#6)
Sorry, folks, but that means voting for McCain (for all his faults).
What North American Union? STOP the North American Union!
~~~~~~~~~> Have you seen THIS yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT!
#8. To: Dakmar (#5)
To Hell with Hillary, she threw a shoe at me last time I showed up at her back door begging for spaghetti.
Lord Acton
#9. To: robin (#0)
"No woman is illegal"
#10. To: FOH, robin, Mudboy Slim (#4)
n_c is a "Progressive" IRS-worshipping boot licker.
#11. To: nolu_chan (#10)
#12. To: FOH, robin, Jethro Tull (#3)
Maybe you're just stupid. That could be it. Never thought of that I guess.
#13. To: FOH (#11)
More spam!
#14. To: nolu_chan (#12)
#15. To: FOH (#14)
Look, if you're the same POS that posted under nolu chan at elpee, then just go take a flying leap right now...cuz if you are, you're a boot licking little twink!
#16. To: nolu_chan (#15)
#17. To: nolu_chan (#15)
#18. To: FOH (#16)
You are the same old (Marxist-)IRS shill you've always been? Now an Ophile to boot?
#19. To: Dakmar (#18)
#20. To: FOH (#19)
#21. To: Dakmar (#20)
#22. To: FOH (#21)
#23. To: robin (#2)
#24. To: nolu_chan, Jethro Tull, FOH (#12)
"I did not label McCain a psycho. I responded to Jethro Tull who labeled him a psycho. Which leaves us getting either a psycho or the DEM."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#25. To: Mudboy Slim (#24)
I've seen very little evidence that BigJohn is a psycho.
#26. To: Original_Intent (#23)
We may not have an impact nationally but getting out and voting for local candidates and issues is still important.
#27. To: Mudboy Slim, Jethro Tull, FOH (#24)
I've seen very little evidence that BigJohn is a psycho.
I Am a Gook
#28. To: nolu_chan (#27)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#29. To: nolu_chan (#27)
#30. To: FOH (#29)
McGook the manchurian candidate...
www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/sketch.html
Baldwin obtained a Bible Diploma from what is now Liberty University, founded by Jerry Falwell. www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/sketch.html
#31. To: nolu_chan (#30)
#32. To: Mudboy Slim (#28)
I had forgotten about the "gook" comment...not very appealing.
#33. To: FOH (#31)
I'll take an American, Chuck Baldwin.
#34. To: nolu_chan (#33)
We will all take the DEM or PUBBIE who is elected.
#35. To: FOH (#34)
Oh, how cute.
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