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Title: Recruiting the undocumented for the military is proposed
Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=223263
URL Source: http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/article474777.ece
Published: Apr 26, 2008
Author: Jose Cardenas
Post Date: 2008-04-27 10:32:34 by Peppa
Keywords: illegals
Views: 226
Comments: 14

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as the nation fights wars on two fronts, some wonder whether the military should recruit more heavily among immigrants here — even undocumented ones — as well as foreigners in their own countries.

Yes, say some intellectuals at Washington, D.C., think tanks.

"Those of us who support recruiting foreigners believe they are often very skilled, motivated, and in the great American tradition of immigration," Michael O'Hanlon, a Brookings Institution senior fellow on foreign policy said in an e-mail.

The "Dream Act" bill that failed in Congress last year would have done more than legalize undocumented high school students who aspire to college. It also would have given green cards to undocumented high school students who served in the military.

[...]

"The military wants to get their hands on those folks," added Mariscal, a Vietnam veteran.

The nonprofit CNA Corp. based in Virginia has recommended mining the legal immigrant community more heavily for military recruits.

"One overlooked source of military manpower is immigrants and their families," according to a 2005 report by CNA, which advises public employers on issues ranging from national security to international affairs.

"In fact," the organization concluded, "much of the growth in the recruitment-eligible population will come from immigration."

[...]

After the war started, President Bush signed an executive order allowing immigrants in the military to apply for citizenship immediately. Congress followed with legislation that shortened the time that immigrants in the military have to wait during peacetime to apply for citizenship, from three years to one year.

[...]

a third of the world's population is younger than 15, and many of those young people will make their way to the United States, where some will become legal residents.

For the military, the linguistic and cultural diversity of noncitizens are especially valuable, the CNA authors said.

[...]

Meanwhile, O'Hanlon of the Brookings Institution and Council on Foreign Relations senior fellow Max Boot have called for a "new chapter in the annals of American immigration."

Their proposal: give foreigners recruited from other countries as well as those already here citizenship after four years of military service. That, they believe, could create a path toward assimilation for undocumented immigrants without green cards. Besides, they note, the military already relaxed age and other restrictions, including those accepting enlistees with criminal records, to meet recruiting goals.

"The idea of offering citizenship to foreigners who first join the armed forces should be a winner for everyone," they wrote in the Washington Post in 2006. "It is good for immigrants. … It is good for a beleaguered American military that is simply too small for the tasks it has been handed."

* * *

Not surprisingly, others oppose the idea of increasing the number of noncitizens fighting for American ideals.

The military would become a low-wage occupation like other industries now dominated by immigrants, warns Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors more restrictive immigration policies.

"If enlisting were a way to get legalized or a way to get into the United States," Krikorian said, "soldiering would become a job Americans would not do very rapidly."

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#1. To: Peppa (#0)

I've run out of bozo slots over there. LP just has too many assholes to ignore now.

Total idiots about the devastating effect of the war on the economy and everything else. They whine about the notion of recruiting illegals into the military and yet, what else should they expect if they want the war to continue?

It's still better than TOS, but nowadays that isn't saying much.


From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.

PnbC  posted on  2008-04-27   11:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PnbC (#1)

I've run out of bozo slots over there. LP just has too many assholes to ignore now.

LOL.. I just read over there from time to time. But a couple of posters see that a foreign army is being created under our noses, for criminals with no national allegiance to anything but their paycheck. This can't possibly bode well on many levels.

Total idiots about the devastating effect of the war on the economy and everything else. They whine about the notion of recruiting illegals into the military and yet, what else should they expect if they want the war to continue?

Some are not rational in the first place, so whatever it takes to keep the meat grinder full is fine with them. The human cost is unimportant. For some, that's proof of patriotism.

It's still better than TOS, but nowadays that isn't saying much.

No. They are all infiltrated and controlled by others.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-27   11:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Peppa, christine (#0)

The Open Borders North American Welfare-Warfare Zone, whose current quisling occupying our nation's House eliminated posse comitatus thus enabling him to both snatch up National Guards as well deploy them against our own citizens, will now add final insult to ultimate injury by training foreign illegal invaders and paying them to kill others and...us.

Am I close?


FOH  posted on  2008-04-27   12:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FOH (#3)

Am I close?

Yep.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-27   12:18:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Peppa (#4)

Am I close?

Maybe if we start boot licking right now the whole of McHillObama...the selection will spare us in the coming crises? heheh ahaha


FOH  posted on  2008-04-27   12:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: FOH (#5)

Maybe if we start boot licking right now the whole of McHillObama...the selection will spare us in the coming crises? heheh ahaha

Sure. No this sort of thing is fine with them. They are NWO shills.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-27   12:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Peppa, FOH (#4)

Yep.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze038.html#9

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-27   13:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#7)

Eze 38:1 ¶ And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

Eze 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

Eze 38:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

Eze 38:4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts [of armour, even] a great company [with] bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

Eze 38:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

Eze 38:6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: [and] many people with thee.

Eze 38:7 ¶ Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.

Eze 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land [that is] brought back from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

Eze 38:9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

Eze 38:10 ¶ Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, [that] at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

Eze 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

Eze 38:12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places [that are now] inhabited, and upon the people [that are] gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

Eze 38:13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

Eze 38:14 ¶ Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know [it]?

Eze 38:15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:

Eze 38:16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

Eze 38:17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; [Art] thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days [many] years that I would bring thee against them?

Eze 38:18 ¶ And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, [that] my fury shall come up in my face.

Eze 38:19 For in my jealousy [and] in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

Eze 38:20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that [are] upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.

Eze 38:21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

Eze 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that [are] with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

Eze 38:23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I [am] the LORD.

This many mentions of Israel in one Chapter of Holy Scriptures will surely cause at least half of 4um's heads to explode...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-27   13:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: FOH (#8)

not sure what you mean, but the church is Israel now www.geocities.com/Athens/..._Church_Is_Israel_Now.htm , and America is her promised land.

"Israel" designated George W. Bush as "Gog" [see Megillat Bush and the Bush Scroll]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-27   14:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#9) (Edited)

not sure what you mean, but the church is Israel now www.geocities.com/Athens/..._Church_Is_Israel_Now.htm , and America is her promised land.

See, you DO understand! I don't buy into Replacement Theology as you do...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-27   14:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#9)

Nothing new about Green Card Soldiers in Iraq.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-04-27   14:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: FOH (#10)

I don't buy into Replacement Theology as you do...

See Isaiah 65:15, John 15:15-16; Galatians 3:7,16-29; Romans 9:6-33.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-27   14:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#12)

I am very familiar and still don't buy in...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-27   14:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FOH (#13)

do you buy into this?

4um: Scepter of Judah and Thesis Statements [Agenda for World War, Destruction of Christian America; and Jewish Supremacy]... ... www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=75182

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-29   15:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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