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Title: Obama says will back Petraeus for new military job
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Reuters
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080427/pl_nm/usa_politics_obama_iraq_dc
Published: Apr 27, 2008
Author: staff
Post Date: 2008-04-27 19:59:18 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama, who has called for withdrawing U.S. combat troops from Iraq, said on Sunday he will vote to confirm the top commander there for a new job as head of the military's Central Command. President George W. Bush has nominated Gen. David Petraeus, who led the buildup of troops in Iraq, to be in charge of operations across the Middle East and Central Asia. If confirmed by the Senate, Petraeus will still be in that job when the next president replaces Bush at the White House in January 2009. Obama hopes that person is him. "Yes," Obama told "Fox News Sunday" when asked if, as a senator from Illinois, he would approve Petraeus. "I think Petraeus has done a good tactical job in Iraq." Obama has said he would start pulling out more troops as soon as he became president. "My hope is that Petraeus would reflect that wider view of our strategic interest," he said on "Fox News Sunday." "I will listen to General Petraeus given the experience that he has accumulated over the last several years," Obama said. "It would be stupid of me to ignore what he has to say." "It would be my job as commander in chief to set the mission, to make the strategic decisions in light of the problems that we're having in Afghanistan, in light of the problems that we are having in Pakistan, the fact that al Qaeda is strengthening," Obama said. Republicans immediately jumped on his comments, saying Obama was avoiding the tough questions. "Obama also said it would be 'stupid' to ignore commanders on the ground in Iraq, yet his withdrawal strategy does exactly that," Republican National Committee spokesman Alex Conant said in an e-mail. "If Obama isn't ready to answer tough questions, how can he be ready to be commander in chief?" Obama also said he was a "big respecter" of Petraeus' predecessor Adm. William Fallon, who resigned after a magazine article depicted him as openly criticizing Bush administration policy over Iran. "It was unfortunate that the administration wasn't listening more to the observations of Fallon, that we have to think about more than just Iraq, that we've got issues with Iran and Pakistan and Afghanistan, and our singular focus on Iraq I think has distracted us," Obama said.
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#1. To: All (#0)
And the two-party fraud goes rolling along.
Col Westhusing is disappointed, and so am I.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Well, that's something, but endorsing BetrayUs is unacceptable. Nevertheless, the anti-war activists are behind Obama, to Hillary's disgust. Hillary who recently spoke of "obliterating Iran". And the warmonger McCain is all for 100 years in Iraq.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Always good to hear from one from the other side chime in. Thanks, UBL.
robin... And you threw it all away for McHillObama. Was it the universal health care and/or white guilt and/or you're actually an agent of the enemies of American sovereignty?
He's a lying ball sack.
i would think that you would be more than disappointed. isn't this proof where his loyalties and intentions really lie? despite his saying he'll get out of iraq, blah, blah, blah, he turns around and supports Patraeus. foreign policy won't change one iota with obama, nor will domestic policy, unless it's for the worse.
Amazingly (or not), the PTB have funneled America/ns into this dialectic...Hitlery! is going to look 'moderate' to the sheeple before this is over. I predict another 'record turnout' for the Establishment to point to.
SOCK PUPPETS ALL
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
He was waving back at me !!!
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
He could be lying about leaving Iraq. But he also might be lying about supporting Patraeus. As a politician he still needs to come off as unradical, still needs to not grossly alienate the entire R base that he knows despises Cain. He needs R votes to win. He might simply be willing to listen to Patraeus for 30 minutes and then promptly order him to start withdrawing troops. I'm sticking to my guess: We ultimately don't know what Obama will do, but we do know what Cain will do.
I hope you waved with both hands! ;)
He could be lying about leaving Iraq. But he also might be lying about supporting Patraeus. As a politician he still needs to come off as unradical, still needs to not grossly alienate the entire R base that he knows despises Cain. He needs R votes to win. He might simply be willing to listen to Patraeus for 30 minutes and then promptly order him to start withdrawing troops. I'm sticking to my guess: We ultimately don't know what Obama will do, but we do know what Cain will do. LOLOL!!!!!!! Check this out ... the last pic you put up of Clinton flippin the country off came from this website. That website had the above promotion on its page. That's the Pro-Zionist Organization founded by Fat Boy Hagee. Screw Hagee and CUFI ...
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
That guy who runs that site is a founding CUFI member that has nothing to do with Hagee and was large in MN for Ron Paul...
How can that be since Hagee started CUFI ... and why are Christians so Biblically ignorant of what their own Bible says. Would you show your friend the above document and ask him how he feels about "GOG" and Armageddon ? This is their website: http://www.templeinstitute.org
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
Send him an email! He puts it on there I think...
He says what people want to hear, and they hear only what they want to. Their hearing will improve when their kids are conscripted. And I hope theirs are the first in the tank. 'But Mom, you said Obama was against war........' And if said kid returns, he will be warded to mom and dad to care for. They can pat themselves on the back that they helped rip their kids future and health away.
Ain't that the truth. I'll be damned before mine are involuntarily enlisted in the OWM wars...
Just brothers of other mothers.
We'll all be damned if we vote for evil.
OK.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
Look around...evil is abounding.
Someone used a phrase here today, sorry I don't remember whom, but said that those who choose not to see have 'scales on their eyes'. Facts are not what you WANT to believe, but what is. There is the difference between those who choose not see and cling to false hope and those who do see and peddle it. It's just not selling like it used to.
YES HE DID! Great graphic TT!
I fully and completely agree Christine. The two-party sham rolls along, but the good news is that more people are finally wising up. The bad news is that the plutocracy is far too powerful and entrenched to be overthrown by "we the people".
#2. To: Hayek Fan (#0)
#3. To: robin, Hayek Fan, Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull, christine, James Deffenbach, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, wudidiz, *Obama Reality Check* (#2)
Col Westhusing is disappointed, and so am I.
#4. To: Hayek Fan, *Obama 2008* (#1)
"It was unfortunate that the administration wasn't listening more to the observations of Fallon, that we have to think about more than just Iraq, that we've got issues with Iran and Pakistan and Afghanistan, and our singular focus on Iraq I think has distracted us," Obama said.
#5. To: Hayek Fan (#0)
#6. To: robin, Peppa, Cynicom, Jethro Tull, christine (#4)
And the warmonger McCain is all for 100 years in Iraq.
#7. To: Hayek Fan (#1)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama, who has called for withdrawing U.S. combat troops from Iraq, said on Sunday he will vote to confirm the top commander there for a new job as head of the military's Central Command.
#8. To: Hayek Fan (#0)
#9. To: robin (#2)
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama, who has called for withdrawing U.S. combat troops from Iraq, said on Sunday he will vote to confirm the top commander there for a new job as head of the military's Central Command.
#10. To: christine (#9)
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foreign policy won't change one iota with obama, nor will domestic policy, unless it's for the worse.
#11. To: christine, Robin (#9)
#12. To: noone222 (#11)
#13. To: FOH (#12)
#14. To: christine (#9)
i would think that you would be more than disappointed. isn't this proof where his loyalties and intentions really lie? despite his saying he'll get out of iraq, blah, blah, blah, he turns around and supports Patraeus.
#15. To: noone222 (#13)
(Edited)
#16. To: Pinguinite (#14)
i would think that you would be more than disappointed. isn't this proof where his loyalties and intentions really lie? despite his saying he'll get out of iraq, blah, blah, blah, he turns around and supports Patraeus.
#17. To: FOH (#15)
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#18. To: noone222 (#17)
#19. To: FOH (#18)
a founding CUFI member that has nothing to do with Hagee
#20. To: noone222 (#19)
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
He's a lying ball sack.
#22. To: Peppa (#21)
#23. To: noone222 (#11)
(Edited)
#24. To: FOH (#22)
I'll be damned before mine are involuntarily enlisted in the OWM wars...
#25. To: FOH (#20)
#26. To: Peppa (#24)
We'll all be damned if we vote for evil.
#27. To: Peppa, FOH (#21)
He's a lying ball sack.
#28. To: FOH (#26)
Look around...evil is abounding.
#29. To: TwentyTwelve (#27)
#30. To: christine (#9)
Foreign policy won't change one iota with obama, nor will domestic policy, unless it's for the worse.
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#31. To: christine (#9) (Edited)
I think McCain's approval of being in Iraq for 100 years and Hillary's desire to "obliterate" Iran still makes them worse than Obama on the subject of war. I think a vote against BetrayUs would be difficult for a Presidential candidate at this juncture. On the surface, BetrayUs has done a "good" job. The actual evidence against him is not provable. So anyone who does not vote to approve BetrayUs would just look like a kook, not a president. He had strong words about Fallon and the Bush regime: "It was unfortunate that the administration wasn't listening more to the observations of Fallon, It is no accident that the anti-war activists are supporting Obama, not Hillary. It is also interesting that Hamas likes Obama, something McCain has used to "smear" Obama. From another thread with this info: On to foreign policy questions. Obama will vote to confirm Petraeus - a mistake, in my mind, if Petraeus will not agree to abide by the mission set by a future Commander-in-Chief. Obama says as much - going far enough to say that he'd listen to Petraeus, but either doesn't know that Petraeus has hedged on the issue or he doesn't care. I think it's the central question to Petraeus' confirmation.
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
#32. To: noone222 (#11)
Possibly, but even Slick was a less damaging sock puppet than Smirk.
SOCK PUPPETS ALL
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
#33. To: robin (#31)
Senator Obama will not only end the war, he can be brought on board the efforts needed to bring Bush, Cheney, Rumbo and other criminals to justice. He is the only one of the current candidates who gives me hope. Hope is as important to sustain life as oxygen and water. I am not interested in living without it. I care enough about this to care deeply that any hope I have is no illusion. And I know for a fact Obama critics are as discriminating about the veracity of their talking points concerning Obama.
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#34. To: Ferret Mike (#33)
Barack Obama on Iran The Dems decided not to fight BetrayUs confirmation.
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
#35. To: Elliott Jackalope (#30)
so what do we do? how do we look forward to the future? i don't expect an answer, EJ. i'm just exceedingly sad.
The bad news is that the plutocracy is far too powerful and entrenched to be overthrown by "we the people".
#36. To: christine (#35) (Edited)
Ok, there's a place for that, but realize this thing, this reality where we are is constantly changing, evolving and although where is it right now and where it looks like it might be going is undesireable, that is also subject to tremendous change. Our reality, this country and our world cannot help but evolve.
i'm just exceedingly sad.
#37. To: robin (#34)
Thanks, yes I am listening to his appearence on FOX News Sunday right now, I will play that one too.
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#38. To: robin (#34)
Robert F. Kennedy speech ~ Mindless Menace of Violence A really good statement about the War and why Bush and Cheney are wrong. Watch this speech from 1968. It is a great one by a man who understood the problem with violence and hatred every bit as well as Barack Obama.
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"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#39. To: angle, Ferret Mike (#36)
thanks, angle. i honestly don't remember a time in my life when i've felt so uncertain and insecure. i need a little of that hope that Mike spoke about being essential to life. i just don't know where to find it tonight. excuse my morosity. ;)
#40. To: Ferret Mike (#38)
That was beautiful. I was stuck in traffic yesterday afternoon along the 405 in L.A. - I saw a bumper sticker on a bright red Audi convertible with a young attractive tomboyish girl wearing a baseball cap.
The bumper sticker said "Will Global Warming Thaw Bush's Heart?"
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
#41. To: christine (#35)
IMHO, we give up clinging to false hope, and start embracing the power of unbridled hate. It wasn't love that crushed the Nazis, it was sheer unadulterated hatred. Sometimes one needs the cleansing power of hate, that allows one to do horrible, vicious, destructive things against a deeply evil enemy. We need to start allowing ourselves to hate our masters. Love won't do anything but amuse them. Hate destroys, hate burns, hate kills. We need hate. Lots more hate.
so what do we do? how do we look forward to the future?
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