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Title: Who Made The AA 'Put' Options The Days Prior To 911?
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URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general46/911.html
Published: Apr 27, 2008
Author: By Walter J. Burien, Jr.
Post Date: 2008-04-27 22:12:21 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: 9/11, Put Options, 911
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Who Made The AA 'Put' Options The Days Prior To 911? Can You Amplify On This Comment, Please? By Walter J. Burien, Jr. 12-30-3 Question from: John Kaminski skylax@comcast.net 12-30-3 Gentlemen: Can we all unite on a single task: finding out who placed the orders for the "put" options in the days immediately before 9/11? Discussions I've had in the enclosed e-mail seem to indicate this information is available and not protected by financial disclosure restrictions. Please examine the enclosed and brainstorm how we can get this information into the public sphere. It could be the thread to unravel the mystery. Discovering the names of those who apparently had prior knowledge of 9/11 as indicated by their "savvy" bets on the fortunes of United and American airlines are a necessary first step toward interrogating these individuals to find out where they got their information, something the law enforcement community should be doing but obviously isn't. Best wishes, John Kaminski REPLY FROM Walter Burien WJB@CAFR1.com 12-30-3 John: The five million dollars generated from the unclaimed 911 American Airline put option is truly chump change. The morning of 911, US Bonds moved in 3 to 4 minutes by 1.5 points back and forth three times or $1,500 per contract in seconds three times in less than 4 minutes. Most institutional traders trade in blocks of 500 to 3,000 contracts. Daily transactions are 350,000 to 400,000 contracts traded. The bond market trading was suspended about one half hour after the attack. When it reopened it moved in several days by 5 points. Someone holding 1000 contracts would have reaped five million dollars using one million. International and domestic stock index futures would have reaped over fifteen million using one million. Guess who made the biggest killing on short international and domestic stock index positions? What one group was holding tens of thousands of short positions going into 911 that reaped about 250 billion dollars in the blink of an eye? Hint! Begins with a G and ends with a T. The following disclosures are critical in understanding what you are and have seen taking place in the Markets. I will start off with a clip from Allen Greenspan, who was quoted in the Wall Street Journal in 2000 as saying he was: "Concerned about the eighty (80) trillion dollar international derivative market." What he did not say was that the composite US Government investment funds were the primary user, player, manipulator, and profiteers within that 80 trillion dollar derivative market. The government investment funds are professional short players with no equal in opposition. A derivative gives the ability for selling the market "short" on paper even if you do not own the stock, commodity, currency, bonds, etc. The government investment managers over the last 30 years have become VERY familiar with using this tactic to reap in hundreds of billions of dollars each year! The government, who controls the economic reports, media coverage, and wealth is in a position to manipulate the above and create an environment to secure substantial revenue while everyone else is lying on the shoulder of the road bleeding to death. For three months prior and going into 911 the government investment funds had increased their short positions to the largest diversified short positions ever held by them. Look at any chart for a commodity or stock. Prices collapse four to five times faster than they rise. By selling on the domestic and international derivative markets, this makes the largest "quick" profits, and it is all on paper! You do not have to own the physical stock or commodity. By using derivatives, and if you have the ability to manipulate the market as was the case on 911 you take the money from those that do own the physical stock or commodity. EXAMPLES: Sell a gold futures contract (on paper) at $400 / oz then buy it back at $200, margin requirement to do so on 100 ounces is $1000. Now $400 - $200 = $200 x 100 ounces = $20,000 using $1000 Sell a call option or buy a put option on Microsoft stock at $100 per share and then liquidate the option at $50, you just made $50 per share on your "short" option. If the price moves in the direction of your short derivative position substantial moneys are made and you accomplish this not owning the physical stock, commodity, or currency. A monopoly (Such as: US Composite Government Funds) controlling the swings in the markets will reap unheard of profits on each and every dramatic swing. If there is no volatility, up or down then profits using derivatives are substantially reduced. The OVERALL government investment funds are in the trillions of dollars! Less than 450 managers control 80% of that revenue! They all, in so many words, subscribe to the same newsletter, and discuss strategy at the same club! As the public had hundreds of billions of dollars liquidated from their 401k plans as the market dove lower and lower, in a quick yo yo fashion, the government investment funds through the use of derivatives, transfers that wealth into their management accounts and hands..... Look at the bottom line on the government investment portfolios! They will have taken substantial losses on their physical stock holdings but, their derivative profits will greatly offset those losses or in fact in many a case show a net profit towards the overall results! (Look carefully at cash withdraws / transfers made offsetting those profits to give the appearance of an annual operating loss) The public provides liquidity in the market place to allow the biggest monopoly the world has ever known to secure more wealth. Your government at work! Compare the private sector's return on investments over 2001, 2002 (dismal) compared to government's "NET" return over the same period of time. (Substantial) US Government investment funds have and are doing the same on the International markets as well. Through the use of derivatives, the "substantial" US Government investment funds control the stock market, gold prices, currency prices, etc. Absolute financial control by the largest monopoly on Earth! Any, commodity, International Stock market, or corporate complex's value can be strongly suppressed or over inflated for years by a monopoly using derivatives. Controlled by paper transactions for commitments to buy or sell without physical ownership of what is bought or sold. It does not matter if prices go up or collapses. When the US Government investment managers are moving in tandem, controlling the events and news, they reap obscene returns THROUGH THE USE OF DERIVATIVES! If you look at "WHO" was holding the majority of "SHORT" derivative positions on the domestic and international stock index markets prior to 911, and then reaped over a trillion dollars in profits within weeks from the ensuing collapse of those physical markets, you will find in that group who was responsible for 911. There is one problem in finding this out. That being, government controls the release of that information by and through the Federal agencies of the SEC (Securities Exchange Commission) and CFTC (Commodities Futures Trading Commission). A small conflict of interest exists here, being that the results of that study would show US government was holding the majority of the international and domestic "SHORT" positions! The airline stock option transaction at issue and that most people have heard about promoted in the news is truly minuscule chump change in comparison. Exchange members have access to and keep archive records of the data from their brokerage houses and all other member houses and they are under a nondisclosure agreement. BUT, it would not prevent them, if they wished to do so, too tabulate the transactions and issue a "Generic" report, a specific and targeted generic report. Here, you would need to have a significant contact in the financial community of members. Even though this type of generic report would not violate their nondisclosure agreement, they would be dead if they issued the report based on what it would show and strongly evidence (government investment funds were the primary benefactor), so anonymity would have to be kept when the generic report of the specific stream findings was released. The generic report would mandate disclosure of the specifics behind the report by public and international outcry. Yes, government is preparing for an uprising in this country. So they needed to direct the public eye to a far away enemy so that they can secure control here. Greed has thrived within government circles. The results of that greed have been obscene and the resulting damage to the morals and health of this country in response is sickening. The results of the takeover of the American wealth has been done almost exclusively on paper through manipulation of legislature, the judiciary, and Attorney complex over the last 60 years with the cooperation of the syndicated news media and education. With the conquest being done by transferring the wealth on paper, the consequences for the "takers" was virtually nonexistent! The government trading accounts push 65% of the paper in these markets. Government investment funds are required disclosure if pursued. The CFTC and SEC data tape is definitive for volume and positions held every second of the day. The general position streams have no restrictions from disclosure between exchange members. They archive and share it live within the financial community of exchange members who are producing and clearing the data.. When it comes down to individual accounts, private are confidential but government investment funds handled by private managers are not and cannot be held confidential if pried open by any definitive court order from a competent jurisdiction. Management for all intents and purposes waves enforcement of nondisclosure rules when handling government funds. An intentional cover-up on any disclosure coming forth in this arena per overall government investment funds positions held would be nothing other than treason of the strongest degree, under any color of refusal. The showing of derivative transactions both on the domestic and international fronts would burn the government's facade alive. Based on the fund trackers, government fund accounts were holding their largest short positions "ever" going into 911. Well, the natives are getting restless! The prize is great, ownership of this country and future control of the planet! Hmm! Homeland Security! But you must ask yourself, "security for whom?" Is the answer becoming obvious to you yet? Natives can be pesky little creatures when they realize their families, wives, and children have been raped. They can become very hostile when they realize that their wealth was slipped right out of their hands with no consequence to the "takers." Natives can revolt when they realize these things, and take resentment for the "takers" continued push to indoctrinate them and their children so that what has been taken and is being taken will continue unabated. Here is an age old tactic the takers use when the natives get restless: When the takers hear the random war drums starting to beat at home stronger and stronger from the natives due to the abuses of the takers, the takers will use their well structured organization to re-create the pounding of the war drums at home with their selected target afar now being marketed to the natives. By doing so the native's attention and hostility can be carefully controlled and directed away from the takers and towards some "other" entity, the created enemy afar. When, and as this happens, look out! The takers create a scenario of absolute control, and within this type of environment, the takers will become ruthless beyond all measures after solidifying additional control. WW1, WW2, WW3? The war drums are being played consistently louder by the takers! The natives cannot afford to sit on the sidelines here! Walter Burien P. O. Box 2112 Saint Johns, Arizona 85936 CAFR1.com Video Release - 12/12/03 - TNT (The National Tea-Party) Self Sufficiency in Government "Without" Taxation Walter Burien (AKA: Bubien) CTA (Commodity Trading Advisor) of 14 years (1978-92) National Sales Manager: US Trading Championship Money Managers Verified Ratings 10 years. (1982-1992) Tenant - 1WTC, NY, NY 1979 - 81 Video Release - 12/12/03 TNT (The National Tea-Party) Self Sufficiency in Government "Without" Taxation SUGESTION FROM: Walter Burien The one thing I would love to see someone do is: Show on the Internet the video of Bush's reactions when he was told 1 WTC tower was hit and then a few minutes later after the second was hit as he addressed that group of kids at school in FL. (Many have seen this) He showed almost zero (0) reaction and continued addressing the kids for some 20 - 25 minutes after being told. AND THEN SHOW A "WHAT IF" INTERNET VIDEO THAT SHOWS: The same setting but this time the person comes in and tells Bush two planes attempted to hit the WTC Towers but were shot down before they did. And now Bush spins away from the podium and yells "What" and he immediately leaves the classroom, being upset and startled as he immediately leaves with his aids. ~//~ Visual reality speaks tons... I would LOVE to see someone put the above up on the Web, and do it soon! The hit counter on that page would start smoking, if not burst into flames. I was a tenant at WTC1 in 1979-81 The primary concern any of the tenants had 20 years ago was a hijacked plane being flown into the towers. Here is the "Key" to unlock the door: The extensive flight logs for 20 years from the 3 military bases in the area, and Port Authority responding to air threats is exemplary. Thousands of sorties run in response to threats, practice runs, false alarms, done weekly or daily over 20 years. Back in the late seventies the NY Post ran an article about the Port Authority bragging how their manned 24/7 response helicopter would be in the air within 4 minutes of an alert call going out per possible air threats to the WTC towers. There is one occasion that I am aware of, or in most probabilities that any one else is aware of in this exemplary record of response to air threats covering a period of over twenty years that the intercepts did not launch and were told to stand down, after going on high alert within a minute or two of the threat, not from just one threat but then by two, then three. That date was 9/11/01 This in itself is the most condemning fact of them all when that 20-year record is brought to light. The motive then becomes crystal clear in review of that exemplary response record to threats from the air against the WTC towers. No, off course or negligent aircraft came close. They were always intercepted and told to change their course or they would be blown out of the sky. It was a no fly zone and this happened to many pilots that intentionally or unintentionally flew to close to the WTC towers over those 20 years. "Don't turn you back and look the other way. Shoot a wolf in the chicken coop today!" Walter Burien CAFR1.com
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#1. To: TwentyTwelve, *9-11* (#0)
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Ahhhh...Don Carty? Keep in mind that CEO's are under an FBI initiative regarding terrorism now (Watchers with special incident badges and special priveledges) and I'm sure they were notified of the 9-11 threat, yet kept it quiet. SOMEBODY KNOWS. Our FBI has some smart folks in it..although the organizational beaucracy is FUBAR. But bet your ass SOMEBODY in TheStateInc KNOWS. They can't let it out of the bag or prior knowledge is proven along with StateInc complicity. Hell it could have been half the Israeli government...
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx The Unknown $19 Trillion Depository Trust Company [CEDE & Co.] ".... There is a busy little private company you probably never have heard about, but which you should. Its name is the Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation. See their website. Looks pretty boring. Some kind of financial service thing, with a positive slogan and out there to make a little business. You can even get a job there. Now, go and take a look at their annual report. Starts with a nice litte Flash presentation and has a nice message from the CEO. And take a look at the numbers. It turns out that this company holds 23 trillion dollars in assets, and had 917 trillion dollars worth of transactions in 2002. That's trillions, as in thousands of thousands of millions. 23,000,000,000,000 dollars in assets. As it so turns out, it is not because DTCC has a nice website and says good things about saving their customers money that they are trusted with that kind of resources. Rather it is because they seem to have a monopoly on what they do. In brief, they process the vast majority of all stock transactions in the United States as well as for many other countries. And - and that's the real interesting part - 99% of all stocks in the U.S. appear to be legally owned by them. In the old days, when you owned stocks you would have the stock certificates lying in your safe. And if you needed to trade them, you needed to get them shipped off to a broker. Nowadays that would be considered very cumbersome, and it would be impractical to invest via computer or over the phone. So the shortcut was invented that the broker would hold your stocks instead of you. And in order for him to legally be able to trade them for you, the stocks were placed under their "street name". I.e. they're in the name of the brokerage, but they're just holding them in trust and trading them for you. And you're in reality the beneficiary rather than the owner. Which is all fine and dandy if everything goes right. Now, it appears the rules were then changed so the brokers are not allowed any longer to put the stocks in their own name. Instead, what they typically do is to put the stocks into the name of "Cede and Company" or "Cede & Co" or some such variation. And the broker might tell you that it is just a fictitious name, and will explain why it is really more practical to do that than to put it in your name. The problem with that is that it appears that Cede isn't just some dummy name, but an actual corporation that DTCC controls. And, well, if you ask anybody about this, who actually knows about it, they will naturally tell you that it is all a formality. To serve you better, of course. And, well, maybe it is. DTCC seems like a nice and friendly company. It is a private company, owned by the same people (major U.S. banks) who own the Federal Reserve Bank. And if they all stick to their job, and just keep the money and your stocks flowing smoothly, I'm sure that is all well and good. But if somebody at some point should decide otherwise, and there's a national U.S. emergency and/or the U.S. government becomes unable to pay its debts, well, they might just not give you your stocks back. Because legally they own them. Something to think about. ...... Jim informed me back then (1995) that "the DTC is the largest limited trust company in the world with assets of $ 9.1 trillion". In July 1998, I spoke with Ms. Rose Barnabic of the DTC Finance Department who said that "DTC assets are currently estimated at around $11 trillion". As of April 19, 1999, the DTC itself has stated that their assets total "nearly $19 trillion" (see above). Mr. McNeff had also stated "the DTC is a brokerage clearing firm and transfer center. We're a private bank for securities. We handle the book entry transactions for all banks and brokers. Every bank and brokerage firm must secure their membership with us in case they become insolvent, so your assets are secure with DTC". Yes, you read that correctly. The DTC is a private bank that processes every stock and bond (paper securities) for all U.S. banks and brokerage houses. The big question is this; Just who gave this private bank and trust company such a broad range of financial power and clout? The reason the public doesn't know about DTC is that they're a privately owned depository bank for institutional and brokerage firms only. They process all of their book entry settlement transactions. Jim McNeff said "There's no need for the public to know about us... it's required by the Federal Reserve that DTC handle all transactions". The Federal Reserve Corporation, a/k/a The Federal Reserve System, is also a private company and is not an agency or department of our federal government, according to the 1998 Federal Registry. The Federal Reserve Board of Governors is listed, but they are not the owners. The Federal Reserve Board, headed by Mr. Alan Greenspan, is nothing more than a liaison advisory panel between the owners and the Federal Government. The FED, as they are more commonly called, mandates that the DTC process every securities transaction in the US. It's no wonder that the DTC (including the Participants Trust Company, now the Mortgage-Backed Securities Division of the DTC) is owned by the same stockholders as the Federal Reserve System. In other words, the Depository Trust Company is really just a 'front' or a division of the Federal Reserve System. ......" "....I have a question....would this CEDE and Co. have a record of who made the put options on 911, do you suppose?......" http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=72425 The United States Isn't a Country — It's a Corporation! www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm If they can sue ENRON...... ============================
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Mike Ruppert did two tings that more than anything else I have seen go a long way to understanding the primary government role in allowing the 911 attack to happen. 1. He collect a time line of events predictive of the attack and connected with it. Most important was his collection of news reports from other countries recounting how their intel services had warned us in advance of the oncoming attack. I believe he eventually showed that at least ten countries had warned us in advance. The Russians told us for example that 25 highjackers would fly five airliners into important buildinigs. Nothing of course was done to prevent the attacks. 2. Ruppert published his book "Beyond the Rubicon" thoroughly discussing the warnings we had received. The book also revealed that the U.S. was conducting a war game the morning of 911 that involved putting the virtual images of 22 highjacked airliners on the radar screens. These thoroughly confused the ATC controllers and the NORAD people who could not tell the real from the virtual radar images. For example, there are comments on the audio tapes at ATC asking "Is that a real one?" One important result of these 'virtual' highjackings was that the few available F-16s were sent on wild goose chases after virtual images and never intercepted any of the hijacked airliners. Even this Israel-Firster knows this was whorege's Pearl Harbor...
29. To: yukon ( The following gives a good, short summary of what we are talking about: http://www.oilempire.us/standdown.html IMHO, the bible on the events of 911 and those leading up to it is Mike Ruppert's book "Crossing the Rubicon". If you haven't read it you don't know anything about 911. He is not a 'truther'. Rather, he shows that our government was well aware of the oncoming 911 attack, did nothing to prevent it, and actually facilitated it and made certain that it would succeed. More from the Israel-Firster...
MainPage www.rense.com All Precious Metal Exchanges And Comex Destroyed In WTC FTW Special Alert c. 20001 From The Wilderness 9-11-1 The most immediate results of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon may be felt throughout the U.S. economy within the next 3-5 days and certainly in the next three weeks. As FTW has been noting in special subscriber bulletins within the last week, the eve of the terrorist attacks was marked by incredible instability in U.S. financial markets including the DOW. FTW had clearly predicted a highly unstable economic situation marked by long-term artificially suppressed gold prices and a $30 trillion derivatives bubble on the verge of exploding as the DOW was poised for a simultaneous epochal implosion. Initial indicators show that the London gold price rose by more than 5% in just the first two hours after the bombings before the London markets closed. FTW predicts that trading will be suspended on the NYSE for the immediate future and that a run on US banks is a distinct possibility. Limited martial law is virtually a certainty and, if coupled with a run on the banks, might produce even more severe restrictions of civil liberties. It is important to avoid speculation at present but one of the least understood immediate effects of these attacks will be on the U.S. economy. The COMEX, the centralized trading floor for all precious metals -- along with NY representative offices for every major foreign national bank -- was destroyed as the World trade center collapsed. So were all the records of gold pricing and sales. Investor confidence and world confidence in US markets and the U.S. economy will inevitably be impacted negatively. We must leave aside speculation about motive for the moment. But if Osama bin Laden is officially named as the culprit, a host of unpleasant questions will dog the U.S. government. Not the least of these is how the CIA will explain that bin Laden was and is a CIA creation from the Afghan conflict of the 1980s. FTW reported major holes in the government's official position vis a vis bin Laden in 1998. The logistical and financial infrastructure required for this attack was, in my opinion, far beyond any known capability of any known terrorist organization. I immediately rule out the Palestinians as suspects because it would be a suicidal move on their part. As politicians like Kissinger and McCain call this "an act of war" one glaring inconsistency jumps out: Who is the enemy and where are they? Henry Kissinger was talking about retaliatory attacks even before there is ANY idea of where or whom to attack. With such a mentality the only place to attack is against the American people by restricting civil liberties. At this point FTW advises against panic and against a run on banks or food stores. The most important thing we can do is to sit down with paper, pen and computers and document every news report on every news agency, especially those overseas. We already know that the major media cannot be relied upon to tell us the whole truth. Perspectives from both the left and the right have given us a multitude of past stories where the truth has been hidden rather than told. The most important thing to watch now is the world economy and to rely on our own ability to research, document, record and think for ourselves. Mike Ruppert Publisher/Editor "From The Wilderness" www.copvcia.com
I saw that organization listed on a Dan Seals album in the 1970's as a beneficiary of a percentage of the profits.. It seems ThePeople have been busy f***ing us for a long long time.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx yup.....401 years to be exact. Genesis 15:13-14/Gal. 3:16-29. Threshing time: Micah 4:13.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
this was whorege's Pearl Harbor... WHITE HOUSE SLAMS HIJACK 'POLITICS' - The Washington Times Friday, May 17, 2002 For years, signs suggested 'that something was up' by Bill Gertz U.S. intelligence agencies had indications for months and even years before September 11 that terrorists were planning attacks with aircraft. But National Security Adivsor Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that the most-recent intelligence indicated hijackers only would take hostages. A senior official last night told the Associated Press on the condition of anonymity that the only mention of hijacking was "one sentence buried in one briefing." "I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center; take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile," Miss Rice told reporters at a news conference yesterday. "All of this reporting about hijacking was about traditional hijacking."......."' Cheney calls speculation 'thoroughly irresponsible By Ralph Z. Hallow and Dave Boyer Vice President Richard B. Cheney yesterday warned congressional Democrats against trying to score political points by making "incendiary" assertions about what the White House knew about terrorist threats before the September 11 attacks. "They need to be very cautious not to seek political advantage by making incendiary suggestions that have been made by some today that the White House had advance information that would have prevented the tragic attacks of 9/11," the vice president said in a speech last night in New York. "Such commentary is thoroughly irresponsible and totally unworthy of national leaders in a time of war," he told a Manhattan gathering in honor of the New York state Conservative Party....." =========== 1999 Justice Department Terrorism Reponse Booklet Click on images to enlarge. Then use your browser's "back" button to return to this page. Click to view full size! Click to enlarge Webmaster's note: The above right photo, a clearer and easier to read photo, was added on April 1, 2002 and is from a different source than the one on the left. (Identity of sender withheld) A picture is worth a thousand words. This is the cover of a booklet that fell into my hands today as they were being destroyed at our place. Notice the EXACT placement of the crosshairs on the twin towers! THEY KNEW YEARS BEFOREHAND!! THESE USELESS MASONIC BASTARDS PERPETRATED IT ALL!!! This is just my humble opinion. You have permission to spread these all over the internet. Just leave my name out of it. This is as good as I can do. My digital isn't as good as I would like it to be. I'll just tell you what is printed on each section.Upper right hand corner: FEMA/USFA/NFA-ERT:SS AUGUST 1997. Seals: Left: Dept. of Justice, Center: The American eagle, WITH IT'S HEAD BOWED AS IF IN SURRENDER, Right- Fema's seal. Below the print is as follows: U.S. Dept. of Justice Office of Justice programs--Bureau of Justice assistance. Federal Emergency Management Agency. Under that: United States Fire Administration-National Fire Academy. www.sweetliberty.org/issues/war/response2terrorism.htm ==============
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
well, they thought of everything didn't they? but are you telling me that computerized transactions are destroyed when the computers loading the data are destroyed? For something as large as this, especially, doesn't the information immediately go out to some great data base? There MUST be a backup somewhere. I'm not buying this....if true, they should be hung and quartered for incompetence and lack of foresight alone.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
From: Ananova Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 Subject: JFK photos destroyed in twin towers collapse - Your News from Ananova More than 40,000 negatives taken by President John F Kennedy's personal photographer were destroyed in the collapse of the World Trade Centre. The unique images included pictures of Kennedy at work and play in the White House, and only a handful had been made public before their destruction. The pictures were taken by Jacques Lowe, who kept the negatives in a safe deposit box deep under the World Trade Centre, at bankers JP Morgan Chase. Full story: http://www.ananova.com/yournews/story/sm_467177.html * US terror attacks story sent by Ananova, your personal news assistant
www.rense.com/general25/bind.htm FBI Destroyed Evidence On bin Laden By Carl Limbacher NewsMax.com 5-28-2 The FBI destroyed evidence about terrorist Osama bin Laden because its e-mail wiretap system mistakenly gathered information it was not entitled to. The FBI's Carnivore software not only spied on e-mails of its target "but also picked up e-mails on non-covered targets," said a March 2000 memo to agency headquarters in Washington. "The FBI technical person was apparently so upset that he destroyed all the e-mail take, including the take on" the suspect, the memo said. The documents were made public through a request filed under the Freedom of Information Act by Electronic Privacy Information Center, a Washington advocacy group. The documents were not included in an original release but became public after a federal judge ordered the FBI to reveal more information. "At issue was an investigation in Denver in which the FBI's bin Laden unit was using the bureau's Carnivore system to conduct electronic surveillance of a suspect under a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant," the Associated Press reported today. "The memo surfaced as the FBI was addressing concerns it mishandled aspects of terrorism investigation prior to the Sept. 11 attacks. Those concerns include a warning from its Phoenix office about Arab pilots training in the United States last July." The Justice Department's Office of Intelligence and Policy Review was furious after learning the evidence was destroyed, according to the memo. "To state that she was unhappy at ITOS [International Terrorism Operations Center] and the UBL [bin Laden] unit is an understatement," the memo said, quoting a Justice official. Justice officials worried the destruction of the evidence would show an "inability on the part of the FBI to manage" the warrants, which are crucial tools in fighting terrorism. Privacy groups and some congressmen have complained that Carnivore could collect more data than permitted by a warrant. "Here's confirmation of the fact that not only did it do that, but it resulted in a loss of legitimately acquired intelligence," said David Sobel, general counsel of Electronic Privacy Information Center. FBI officials today would not comment on the Carnivore memo or the inquiry.
From: Ananova Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:37:29 GMT Subject: Undercover CIA station destroyed in September 11 attacks - Your News from Ananova The CIA's undercover New York station was destroyed in the September 11 attack on the twin towers. Government officials say US intelligence operations were severely disrupted after the destruction of the station. It was based in 7 World Trade Centre, a smaller office tower destroyed in the aftermath of the collapse. Read the full story at www.ananova.com/yournews/story/sm_441160.html * US terror attacks story sent by Ananova, your personal news assistant
These are very interesting posts.
It's a dirty job but somebody better do it.
....and i bet they didn't 'accidentally' lose any info they gathered on the likes of any of us! what's up with the jfk photos do you suppose...another 'accident' or true collateral damage?
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
Most Americans know very little of what is actally going on behind the scenes.
#2. To: robin (#1)
#3. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)
(Edited)
Who Made The AA 'Put' Options The Days Prior To 911?
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#4. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)
#5. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)
24. To: yukon (#5)
#6. To: All (#5)
Re: F-16s sent on wild goose chase.
#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)
#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#9. To: IndieTX (#8)
#10. To: FOH (#5)
our government was well aware of the oncoming 911 attack, did nothing to prevent it, and actually facilitated it and made certain that it would succeed.....
#11. To: TwentyTwelve (#7)
The COMEX, the centralized trading floor for all precious metals -- along with NY representative offices for every major foreign national bank -- was destroyed as the World trade center collapsed. So were all the records of gold pricing and sales.
#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#11)
#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#11)
well, they thought of everything didn't they?
#14. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#11)
well, they thought of everything didn't they?
#15. To: TwentyTwelve (#14)
#16. To: angle, TwentyTwelve (#15)
These are very interesting posts.
#17. To: angle (#15)
These are very interesting posts.
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