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Title: GOP Shuts Down NV convention as Ron Paul Wins
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080427/ap_on_el_pr/nevada_republicans
Published: Apr 28, 2008
Author: Yahoo
Post Date: 2008-04-28 11:35:08 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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RENO, Nev. - Outmaneuvered by raucous Ron Paul supporters, Nevada Republican Party leaders abruptly shut down their state convention and now must resume the event to complete a list of 31 delegates to the GOP national convention. Outnumbered supporters of expected Republican presidential nominee John McCain faced off Saturday against well-organized Paul supporters. A large share of the more than 1,300 state convention delegates enabled Paul supporters to get a rule change positioning them for more national convention delegate slots than expected. "I've seen factions walk out. I've never seen a party walk out," said Jeff Greenspan, regional coordinator for the Paul campaign. Delegates cheered earlier in the day as former presidential hopeful Mitt Romney urged support for McCain. Later, though, Paul got even louder applause as he delivered his message of individual freedom and fiscal responsibility. State Sen. Bob Beers, the convention chairman, was booed loudly as he called for a recess Saturday evening. He said that the party's rental contract for a big meeting room at a Reno hotel-casino had expired and there was too much work left to complete. State GOP Chairwoman Sue Lowden said the rules change wasn't anticipated. She denied any anti-Paul bias, saying expected slates of national delegates were prepared through a fair and open process by the convention's nominations committee and the party thought the convention would accept them.
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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
His speech is in part 3 and 4 of 6, below. Nevada GOP Walks Out Of State Convention - KOLO 8 TV After a super-majority of Ron Paul supporters captured control of the Republican state convention Saturday, state party officials abruptly canceled the event without electing delegates to the national convention. Ron Paul - NV GOP Walks out on it's OWN CONVENTION! Pt 3/6 Ron Paul - NV GOP Walks out on it's OWN CONVENTION - Pt 4/6 NV GOP Walks out on it's OWN CONVENTION! Part 5/6
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds From: Steven Vincent Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:57:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [ronpaul-496] TONIGHT: SPECIAL REPORT on Nevada GOP State Convention Vote Fraud Rather than lose to the overwhelming support for Ron Paul at the Nevada state GOP convention, the GOP establishment simply shut down the convention and went home without taking a vote on Saturday. We’ll be covering this tonight with special guests who were present at the convention on “The Freedom Message” with Steven Vincent co-hosted by Peymon Mottahedeh of Freedom Law School. If you were present and have first hand info on the events at the Nevada convention, please do call in to the show. Let the screener know that you are calling in a first hand report. We’ll also be joined by Lt. Eric Shine, who will talk about the militarization of the Coast Guard and the move to replace civilian law with maritime law and civilian courts with military tribunals: www.martiallaw911.com/ The Freedom Message Sundays at 8 PM PST, 10 PM CST, 11 PM EST Call in to the show: (512) 646-2008 or (877) 646-2008 Listen Live: rprradio.com/listen.shtml
Ron Paul Air Corps Covers Reno NV Since Beers walked out maybe the remaining RP folks should vote for a new chairman!
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds video at link Ron Paul: the revolution lives on (CNN)— Texas Congressman Ron Paul said Monday his revolution is still alive, and he will not be shut out of the presidential race by the Republican Party. “We’re trying to say we have a right to argue our case that Republicans ought to stand for something,” Paul told CNN Monday morning. Adding, the need for change is vital, but all three candidates, including John McCain, represent a continuation of the same policy. A large group of Paul’s supporters managed to bring Nevada’s Republican Convention to a standstill over the weekend after the party tried to exclude The Texas congressman from delegate allocations. Paul, who never officially dropped out of the Republican presidential race, said he continues to gain support from delegates. “What’s the sense of having a convention if everything is decided?” He did not give any details as to who he might be referring to, or where this new support was coming from. The congressman has 21 delegates in the latest CNN count. Arizona senator John McCain has 1,331 total delegates, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee has 267, and Mitt Romney has 255. Paul said his views are “very much in tune with being a good Republican,” and traditional GOP values. Asked if he would encourage his supporters to back McCain, Paul reiterated his views that the two differ on fundamental issues, namely bringing troops home from Iraq. Paul has said he will use his remaining campaign war chest of roughly $4 million to support candidates who share his vision.
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds LOL! So much for the "If you don't the way things are going here, vote them out!" argument.
Read New History I would think it would be hard to deny that Bob Barr shares Ron Paul's vision.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I would think it would be hard to deny that Bob Barr shares Ron Paul's vision. Yet I much prefer Ron Paul. So, maybe he will help Barr in a real economic way to continue to get this message out. IMO, it should be used to help local 3rd party campaigns. That's where the real change will take root.
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds I wonder what the harm would be in letting the Ron Paul supporters go to the convention. After all, McCain's nomination is assured in any case.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
2. To: All (#0) Hello All!! I just returned from 12 hours at the convention. Unbelievable!! They shut the process down because Ron Paul supporters were the majority. Had they continued, all 33 heading to the national convention would have been RP supporters and not one for McLame. The Peppermill offered to allow us to stay for another three hours and finish our business. The Good Ol' Boys shut the meeting down, after confiscating ballots cast for the 9 national delegates, 3 from each congressional district, which were overwhelmingly Ron Paul supporters. This was a slap in the face to the establishment, who had elected officials attempting to get the votes to go to national. You should get a gander at the platform we passed, after months of work and prepping. No NAFTA, NO national ID, NO United Nations, No Patriot Act, NO Military Commissions Act, No Eminant Domain--just to mention a few highlights. McCain supporters were whining, sniveling and completely ineffective. They really didn't do their homework. Just because Mittens had a few nice words to say about McLame, few were swayed. No representative had the backing that Ron Paul had, elected officials were notably envious. Just goes to show you that a few dedicated and active people can make changes and can make a difference. I'm so disgusted with many elected officials in my state for their actions today--SHAMEFUL!!
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
That's the fundamental flaw in the GOP's way of doing things. The GOP's strength (as well as its weakness) is that GOP folks do as they are told, whether they like it or not. Obedience to leaders is seen as a positive. Now it comes back and bites the rank and file in the ass because the leaders are off the track. True, but it's not unique to the GOP. More diverse and messed up groups have never been cobbled together than under the banner of Socialism/Communism/Liberalism/Progressivism in the RAT Party. Talk about towing the line...
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I don't believe they've exhibited any big flaws, other than just being more wrong more of the time and not having large enough numbers in the overarching Socialist/Communist/Progressive/Liberal ideology...lock step block voting has long long been a trait of RAT voters.
But Obama's just fine.
Hillary faults Oboma for being an "eleteist" but the Bushes and the Clintons are the Political Eleteists
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
After all, McCain's nomination is assured in any case. It is odd. The message must be silenced, is my guess. And Ron Paul stated at the convention that he's not too concerned about "unity".
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds Which means Obama will get nothing.
God is always good!
John McCain can go to hell, I'm still voting for RP this November.
"The Northern onslaught upon slavery was no more than a piece of specious humbug designed to conceal its desire for economic control of the Southern states." Charles Dickens, 1862
The question is: How do we get everyone (enough) to think and act like that?
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
The funniest part, of all that wonderfulness, was that the pu**y State pubbie Rep. Beers used Peppermill Security to ensure his 'safe' departure...lolol
#2. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, *Ron Paul for President 2008* (#0)
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The Wild Wild West Convention!
Paul got even louder applause as he delivered his message of individual freedom and fiscal responsibility.
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
#3. To: robin (#2)
#4. To: TwentyTwelve (#3)
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
#5. To: TwentyTwelve, Itisa1mosttoolate (#3)
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
#6. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
"Abe Foxman, my good friend and partner." - John Negroponte
#7. To: robin (#5)
Paul has said he will use his remaining campaign war chest of roughly $4 million to support candidates who share his vision.
#8. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#9. To: aristeides (#7)
Paul has said he will use his remaining campaign war chest of roughly $4 million to support candidates who share his vision.
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
#10. To: ghostdogtxn (#8)
The Nevada GOP will do everything it can to keep the Ron Paul supporters shut out of the process and to keep them from going to the national convention. This despite the fact that Ron Paul beat John McCain in their primary, taking second place to Mitt Romney.
#11. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
State Sen. Bob Beers, the convention chairman, was booed loudly as he called for a recess Saturday evening. He said that the party's rental contract for a big meeting room at a Reno hotel-casino had expired and there was too much work left to complete.
#12. To: aristeides (#10)
#13. To: ghostdogtxn (#12)
McCain can't win unless he unites all of the GOP behind him. Having the supporters of a rival (who most definitely doesn't support him) at the convention would knock a hole in the myth that "the party will get behind their nominee". So the people in the GOP have to be jack-knifed into doing as they are told by the leadership.
#14. To: FOH (#13)
#15. To: ghostdogtxn (#14)
Ah, but the Democratic Party's big flaw has been that they never tried to get this uneasy coalition of diverse interests to move in lockstep, or at least never acheived anything like the lockstep unity Republicans (until recently) enjoyed. The Dem party has been, accordingly, always a less effective and presumably weaker party, despite historical advantages in party identification.
#16. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#17. To: angle (#16)
#18. To: aristeides, ghostdogtxn (#10)
I wonder what the harm would be in letting the Ron Paul supporters go to the convention.
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
#19. To: robin (#5)
Paul has said he will use his remaining campaign war chest of roughly $4 million to support candidates who share his vision.
#20. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#21. To: X-15 (#20)
#22. To: robin (#2)
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