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Title: WHEN WILL WE ADMIT THE TRUTH ABOUT BARACK OBAMA?
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/Duke/selwyn90.htm
Published: Apr 28, 2008
Author: Selwyn Duke
Post Date: 2008-04-29 10:37:08 by IndieTX
Keywords: OBAMA THE, MAGIC, HUSTLER
Views: 1424
Comments: 204

If you interview someone for a job, you’ll expect him to tell you what you want to hear. There’ll be a façade, and his darker side will remain well-hidden. Now, let’s say a requirement for the job is that the applicant likes children, and he does his best Captain Kangaroo. But then you find out he has a job history of indifference to and perhaps even abuse of them and that, during unguarded moments, he has expressed disdain for them. What will you believe, what he tries to sell you or history and hair-down revelations?

Remember this when evaluating the profound discrepancy between Barack Obama’s damage-control denials and flowery rhetoric, and his long track record. Understand that he, like the other candidates, is interviewing for the job of president with you, the interviewer. His job is to bend the truth; your job is to discern it. The only question is: Who will do a better job, he or you?

Either Obama really is a savior for the third millennium, or the answer is that he is, thus far, besting many of you. Millions flock to him, registering oohs and ahs, fainting and fawning. Even critics and watchdogs heap praise upon him; Bill O’Reilly said he likes Obama and Sean Hannity proclaimed him a “good man.” But what is the truth about this applicant?

Let me tell you a story. In 2002, President Bush signed into law a bill titled the “Born Alive Infants Protection Act” (BAIPA). This law was necessary because, believe it or not, infants were being born alive during attempted abortions and then, ancient Spartan style, left to die. Jill Stanek wrote about this last year, saying:

“As a nurse at an Illinois hospital in 1999, I discovered babies were being aborted alive and shelved to die in soiled utility rooms. I discovered infanticide.”

The act was so vile that even staunch abortion advocates would not oppose BAIPA. Stanek tells us that it passed the Senate by unanimous vote, garnering the support of senators Kerry, Kennedy and Clinton. She then pointed out:

“The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme.”

But the state version of BAIPA failed for years in Illinois. Any guesses as to why? Stanek goes on to explain:

I testified in 2001 and 2002 before a committee of which Obama was a member.

Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed.

In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion clinics.

If asked about this, I’m sure Obama would be a very effective interviewee; he is good with words. (Of course, one is better with words when they’re managed by a sympathetic media.) Yet, when you look beyond the rhetoric, a picture of Obama starts to emerge.

There are his damnable associations. We know about William Ayers, the college professor and “education advisor” who, as a Weather Underground terrorist in the 1970s, planted bombs in a campaign against our government. You might point out that this was three decades ago, but know that Ayers is unrepentant and wishes that he had planted more bombs.

What does this piece of history teach us? For starters, it is one thing to understand something is wrong; it is another to feel it. Emotion is a stronger motivator than logic (Captain Kirk had the passion, not Mr. Spock). My point is, given Obama’s cordial dealings with Ayers – a man with whom many wouldn’t break bread – I’m left to wonder how much terrorism really bothers the senator on a visceral level. If his tolerance for the Weatherman is any indication, we have to ask: As president, would his zeal match that of our Islamist foes? Or will Osama bin Laden be a department chair in the Ivy League?

Then there is the now infamous Reverend Wright, the man of the cloth poised to move into a house with a 10-million-dollar line of credit. His bigoted, virulently anti-American bile has received enough press so that I don’t have to provide a complete run-down, but this is a man who equated America with al-Qaeda, said we deserved 9/11, made anti-white statements, and called our nation “the US of KKKA.” This prompted, as you know, a well-crafted and rendered speech on race by the interviewee (as the infanticide story, should it receive enough play, may inspire a speech on the sanctity of life), but, again, what is the reality behind the words?

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Obama called Wright a friend, mentor and uncle; he had a 20-year relationship with him, during which time he attended Wright’s church; he was married and had his child baptized by the reverend; and last year he donated $26,000 to the church. Yet some would give Obama credit for not casting his friend to the winds. After all, the interviewee said that he “cannot disown him.” But my question is: Why, Mr. Obama, did you ever own him in the first place?

So we again have to wonder about his emotional constitution, his heart. Even if he doesn’t share Wright’s passion for the hate, he certainly was tolerant of it – and I suspect sympathetic to it. And a man is known by the company he keeps.

The woman he marries is some indication, too. Michelle Obama vigorously advocated partial-birth abortion (which is also infanticide) in 2004, and we all know about her notorious pronouncement: “For the first time in my adult life, I’m proud of my country.” As for the comment, it has caused many to question her patriotism and apologists to counsel against rash judgment.

But the truth is plain. As I’m sure Jesse Lee Peterson – a black minister and the president of B.O.N.D. – would tell you, anti-American sentiment typifies leftist blacks (it’s quite common among leftist whites, too). Think about it: How many blacks on the left can you think of who don’t fit that mold? It’s a consequence of imbibing the philosophy of hatred and bitterness dispensed by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and other racial hustlers.

Then we have Obama’s moment of honesty in San Francisco. As a refresher, here is what he said:

“You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years . . . . And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

Many have labeled these comments elitist, and Obama has been trying to explain them away. But, again, the truth is plain. Apologists have asserted that Bill Clinton expressed the same sentiments in 1992; in other words, the best they can muster is that Obama is just like Clinton.

And that is the point.

Obama is a leftist, Clinton is a leftist, and that’s what leftists believe about “flyover country,” just as Michelle Obama’s statement reflects what they believe about the whole country. You needn’t be a clairvoyant to discern it.

To understand what is most striking about those comments, though, you have to look more deeply. Notice he mentioned “religion” in the same breath as “guns” and “antipathy to people,” sandwiched right in-between the two. It’s hard to escape the conclusion that he draws an equivalency among those things, which speaks volumes.

If you’re a person of faith, you understand that we’re supposed to cling to religion. After all, if you are serious about your faith, you must believe it is the Truth and that it is God’s will that you should practice it. And why wouldn’t you have the Truth at the center of your life?

The only kind of person who wouldn’t have this perspective is one who has little or no faith. That certainly wouldn’t make Obama unique, but remember that he has often masqueraded as a man of faith, just as he now touts his support for second-amendment rights (in 1999 he supported a law that would have eliminated gun stores from virtually the whole country). But this bespeaks of a reality: There is Obama the myth, and Obama the man. If you want to know the former, listen to what he says; if you want to know the latter, accept what he is.

And what is he? What is the truth about Barack Obama? You won’t hear it from the Sean Hannitys of the world, who will tell us that he is a “good man” with bad ideology. Such people are simple telling you what they’re supposed to believe; it’s what “fair and balanced” commentators do, the stuff of “acceptable” conservatives. The truth about Obama is that he is not a good man.

He is a bad man.

Good men don’t turn a blind eye to unrepentant ex-terrorists; support vile, anti-American bigots; lie about their core beliefs; and look down on traditional Americans. Most significantly, good men don’t allow beautiful babies – the least among us – to be discarded like refuse and die miserable, lonely deaths in dark utility rooms. In fact, if we cannot call Obama a bad man, there is no such thing as a bad man. And calling him a good man doesn’t just strain credulity, it puts it in the hospital in traction.

Ah, yes, hope, change, unity, infanticide, bigotry, terrorism, Obama . . . good? We all know what is wrong with this picture.

© 2008 Selwyn Duke - All Rights Reserve


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#164. To: Jethro Tull (#160)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-29   15:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Arete (#161)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-29   15:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: ghostdogtxn (#165)

reading the latest polls

The polls are rigged like most everything else. They'll try to make it look like a close race even when it isn't. Gives them a lot of time to collect contributions and "catapult the propaganda" to the masses.

Arete  posted on  2008-04-29   15:21:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Arete (#166)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-29   15:26:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Arete (#161)

"I believe the fix is in and it's the D's turn to rule the empire and rape and pillage the planet..."

What if you are wrong?

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-29   15:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Jethro Tull, christine, ghostdogtxn (#160)

Need you be so harsh to fellow posters? Is that a recruitment strategy for you and christine?

Sheeesh, that was VERY harsh...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-29   15:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Mudboy Slim (#169)

The truth is what it is.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-29   15:46:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Mudboy Slim, Jethro Tull (#169)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-29   15:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Mudboy Slim (#169)

Is that a recruitment strategy for you and christine?

recruitment strategy? what are you talking about? in case you've never seen it, here's Freedom4um's mission statement (reason for being).

The mission of this forum is to provide a cyberspace meeting place where lovers of individual freedom can gather to post articles and opinions about the world's events and how these events affect their unalienable rights to life, liberty, and property.

christine  posted on  2008-04-29   16:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Mudboy Slim, jethro tull, christine (#169)

Need you be so harsh to fellow posters? Is that a recruitment strategy for you and christine?

Sheeesh, that was VERY harsh...MUD

WTF? Now that is a gay thing to say!

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-04-29   18:37:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Jethro Tull, ghostdogtxn (#170)

"The truth is what it is."

Yeah, Tex has a history of voting for RATS, but he's good people...we all make mistakes.

Heck, one year I even voted fer Bobdole...LOL!!

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-29   18:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Mudboy Slim (#174)

Yeah, Tex has a history of voting for RATS, but he's good people...

Anyone who supports the illegal invasion of this country isn't a good guy.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-29   18:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Jethro Tull (#175)

Anyone who supports the illegal invasion of this country isn't a good guy.

The illegal aliens are already calling us American citizens being here an illegal occupation of the country.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-29   18:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: christine, Jethro Tull, ghostdogtxn (#172)

"...here's Freedom4um's mission statement (reason for being).

The mission of this forum is to provide a cyberspace meeting place where lovers of individual freedom can gather to post articles and opinions about the world's events and how these events affect their unalienable rights to life, liberty, and property."

Thanks, christine, I did not know that.

Now, let me tell you a little story...once upon a time, a long, long time ago, I used to post at FR.com...LOL!! Well, back in the 2004 race, I refused to endorse the big-spending Dubyuh well into the autumn, and actually posted articles supporting the candidacy of Peroutka, the Constitution Party candidate, to FR's Forum. Needless to say, I made some enemies amongst the BushOrBust folks...LOL!!

Well, due in part to my recent discomfort at posting on FR, I started to hang out on LibertyPost.org. All my FReeper FRiends asked, "What the HELL do you think you're doing posting on an anti-FReeper site?!" LOL...I remember specifically telling them, "If you wanna save souls, you gotta go where the sinners are!!"

Heh heh heh...I'm not sayin' you and/or your posters are "sinners", but I do look at each and every one of you/them as folks in need of political salvation.

Jethro, if, by being mean and obstinate, you chase off Tex, what have you accomplished?

NOTHING!! Just another recruit to the DailyKOS or the RATunderground!!

So be nice, you attract more bees with honey than you do with vinegar...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-29   18:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Jethro Tull, ghostdogtxn (#175)

"Anyone who supports the illegal invasion of this country isn't a good guy."

Tex, say it ain't so...are you pro-Amnesty for ILLEGALS?

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-29   18:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: IndieTX (#173)

Don't make me come thru this computer and whup yer arse...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-29   18:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: IndieTX (#173)

'Cuz I will...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-29   19:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Mudboy Slim (#178)

Tex, say it ain't so...

Tex also denies long weekends spent in the woods with very young boy scouts.

Never believe a liar small time lawyer.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-29   19:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Jethro Tull (#175)

Anyone who supports the illegal invasion of this country isn't a good guy.

You don't seem to object to the illegal invasion of Iraq.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-29   19:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: aristeides (#182)

You don't seem to object to the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Not true, but it's become back burner news afa politics. Sorry, but it's the economy that has the attention of the nation.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-29   19:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: ghostdogtxn (#171)

It's a black thing. JT can't help it, it's in his genes.

Hey Preppy, Google Tommy Davis, LA Dodgers - 1963 - Damn straight I'm black.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-29   19:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: aristeides (#182)

You don't seem to object to the illegal invasion of Iraq.

apparently you've not paid attention to JT's posts over the past 5 yrs. he and his ink led the anti-war discussions (and eventual exodus) on LP when Goldi the warbot took over. it's what led to the creation of FreedomUnderground and then 4um.

christine  posted on  2008-04-29   20:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: christine (#185)

Is that how it played out? First LP, then FU, then the 4um?

LOL...that's exactly the route I took...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-29   20:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Jethro Tull (#184)

LOL...methinks you ain't Tommy Davis. BTW...he was an excellent outfielder...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-29   20:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: Mudboy Slim (#187)

He had a few real great years, I don't recall his defensive skill. And who could forget Muary Wills? Dem bums never should have left Brooklyn.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-29   20:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Jethro Tull (#188)

Tommy Davis, OF, Dodgers...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-29   20:58:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Mudboy Slim (#189)

That's my name. Lots of kidding in HS.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-29   21:02:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: christine, Jethro Tull (#185)

I've paid attention to a number of his posts like #183.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-04-30   10:16:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: Mudboy Slim (#178)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-30   10:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: Jethro Tull (#184)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-30   10:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: aristeides (#191)

this insinuation by you and others that because we're not for obama and see him as establishment--the same as hillary and mccain--that that makes us pro war and pro mccain is total bull, ari. we're not the ones who have changed. our positions and principles have remained steadfast.

christine  posted on  2008-04-30   11:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: christine (#194)

The same people who sound like Fox News and Limbaugh listeners have called me names and said I was a plant who never really supported Ron Paul.

It's not my fault if they parrot the RNC talking points.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-30   11:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: christine (#172)

recruitment strategy? what are you talking about?

You don't have to defend this forum to that disruptor.

It's a dirty job but somebody better do it.

angle  posted on  2008-04-30   11:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: ghostdogtxn (#192)

"I think if I lived in Juarez and couldn't make more than $50 a week to support my family, whereas I could make $80 a day across the border, I'd cross the border and take my chances. Since that's what I'd do, I can't get too pissed at some Mexican doing the same thing."

Well, I can't help but be a little ticked off at the Mexicans for totally disrespecting the laws of this nation. But the real culprits are the employers who continue to hire ILLEGALS, and the Federal Leviathan for refusing to secure our borders...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-30   11:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: christine, *Obama Reality Check* (#194)

this insinuation by you and others that because we're not for obama and see him as establishment--the same as hillary and mccain--that that makes us pro war and pro mccain is total bull, ari. we're not the ones who have changed. our positions and principles have remained steadfast.

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FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   11:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: ghostdogtxn (#192)

To: Mudboy Slim

"Anyone who supports the illegal invasion of this country isn't a good guy."

Tex, say it ain't so...are you pro-Amnesty for ILLEGALS?

No. What's happened is that I've posted things along the lines of feeling sympathy for illegals, because I think if I lived in Juarez and couldn't make more than $50 a week to support my family, whereas I could make $80 a day across the border, I'd cross the border and take my chances. Since that's what I'd do, I can't get too pissed at some Mexican doing the same thing. It's sort of a "mile in the other guy's shoes" kind of thing.

At the same time, I've always supported deportation and building a wall or fence, as well as sanctions against employers. But because I don't think Mexicans ought to be shot crossing the desert and I don't think employers should be deliberately put out of business or hanged for "treason" for each offense, I "support" illegal immigration.

It's a "with us or against us" kind of thing, and since I haven't jumped on the shoot 'em all and bury the bodies in shit bandwagon, I'm not a purist, and therefore must be one of the enemies.

So, to make a long answer brief, I don't support Amnesty and never have.

I also posted a spoof piece on El Pee about hiring a contractor to put an addition on my house entitled "I just put an addition on my house (ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!)" My intent there was to poke fun at the rabid postings of a certain character named "Midwest Minuteman".

You don't poke fun at these people, I tell ya.

You're a lying parser in the Junior Bill Job Clinton vein...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   11:56:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: Mudboy Slim (#197)

the real culprits are the employers who continue to hire ILLEGALS

The number of contractors hiring illegals in my neck of the woods has gone down dramatically...and many contractors dried up long before the Federal Leviathan's credit bubble burst...employing more Americans at better wages. heheheh


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   11:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: FOH (#200)

The few highly-publicized busts seems to have scared some employers...we need more such busts...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-04-30   12:22:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: Mudboy Slim (#197)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-04-30   13:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: ghostdogtxn (#202)

I agree.

Sure you do bluedogliar...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   13:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: All (#5)

BTTT

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-04   12:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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