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Title: WHEN WILL WE ADMIT THE TRUTH ABOUT BARACK OBAMA?
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URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/Duke/selwyn90.htm
Published: Apr 28, 2008
Author: Selwyn Duke
Post Date: 2008-04-29 10:37:08 by IndieTX
Keywords: OBAMA THE, MAGIC, HUSTLER
Views: 1403
Comments: 204
If you interview someone for a job, you’ll expect him to tell you what you want to hear. There’ll be a façade, and his darker side will remain well-hidden. Now, let’s say a requirement for the job is that the applicant likes children, and he does his best Captain Kangaroo. But then you find out he has a job history of indifference to and perhaps even abuse of them and that, during unguarded moments, he has expressed disdain for them. What will you believe, what he tries to sell you or history and hair-down revelations? Remember this when evaluating the profound discrepancy between Barack Obama’s damage-control denials and flowery rhetoric, and his long track record. Understand that he, like the other candidates, is interviewing for the job of president with you, the interviewer. His job is to bend the truth; your job is to discern it. The only question is: Who will do a better job, he or you? Either Obama really is a savior for the third millennium, or the answer is that he is, thus far, besting many of you. Millions flock to him, registering oohs and ahs, fainting and fawning. Even critics and watchdogs heap praise upon him; Bill O’Reilly said he likes Obama and Sean Hannity proclaimed him a “good man.” But what is the truth about this applicant? Let me tell you a story. In 2002, President Bush signed into law a bill titled the “Born Alive Infants Protection Act” (BAIPA). This law was necessary because, believe it or not, infants were being born alive during attempted abortions and then, ancient Spartan style, left to die. Jill Stanek wrote about this last year, saying: “As a nurse at an Illinois hospital in 1999, I discovered babies were being aborted alive and shelved to die in soiled utility rooms. I discovered infanticide.” The act was so vile that even staunch abortion advocates would not oppose BAIPA. Stanek tells us that it passed the Senate by unanimous vote, garnering the support of senators Kerry, Kennedy and Clinton. She then pointed out: “The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme.” But the state version of BAIPA failed for years in Illinois. Any guesses as to why? Stanek goes on to explain: I testified in 2001 and 2002 before a committee of which Obama was a member. Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed. In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion clinics. If asked about this, I’m sure Obama would be a very effective interviewee; he is good with words. (Of course, one is better with words when they’re managed by a sympathetic media.) Yet, when you look beyond the rhetoric, a picture of Obama starts to emerge. There are his damnable associations. We know about William Ayers, the college professor and “education advisor” who, as a Weather Underground terrorist in the 1970s, planted bombs in a campaign against our government. You might point out that this was three decades ago, but know that Ayers is unrepentant and wishes that he had planted more bombs. What does this piece of history teach us? For starters, it is one thing to understand something is wrong; it is another to feel it. Emotion is a stronger motivator than logic (Captain Kirk had the passion, not Mr. Spock). My point is, given Obama’s cordial dealings with Ayers – a man with whom many wouldn’t break bread – I’m left to wonder how much terrorism really bothers the senator on a visceral level. If his tolerance for the Weatherman is any indication, we have to ask: As president, would his zeal match that of our Islamist foes? Or will Osama bin Laden be a department chair in the Ivy League? Then there is the now infamous Reverend Wright, the man of the cloth poised to move into a house with a 10-million-dollar line of credit. His bigoted, virulently anti-American bile has received enough press so that I don’t have to provide a complete run-down, but this is a man who equated America with al-Qaeda, said we deserved 9/11, made anti-white statements, and called our nation “the US of KKKA.” This prompted, as you know, a well-crafted and rendered speech on race by the interviewee (as the infanticide story, should it receive enough play, may inspire a speech on the sanctity of life), but, again, what is the reality behind the words? Advertisement Obama called Wright a friend, mentor and uncle; he had a 20-year relationship with him, during which time he attended Wright’s church; he was married and had his child baptized by the reverend; and last year he donated $26,000 to the church. Yet some would give Obama credit for not casting his friend to the winds. After all, the interviewee said that he “cannot disown him.” But my question is: Why, Mr. Obama, did you ever own him in the first place? So we again have to wonder about his emotional constitution, his heart. Even if he doesn’t share Wright’s passion for the hate, he certainly was tolerant of it – and I suspect sympathetic to it. And a man is known by the company he keeps. The woman he marries is some indication, too. Michelle Obama vigorously advocated partial-birth abortion (which is also infanticide) in 2004, and we all know about her notorious pronouncement: “For the first time in my adult life, I’m proud of my country.” As for the comment, it has caused many to question her patriotism and apologists to counsel against rash judgment. But the truth is plain. As I’m sure Jesse Lee Peterson – a black minister and the president of B.O.N.D. – would tell you, anti-American sentiment typifies leftist blacks (it’s quite common among leftist whites, too). Think about it: How many blacks on the left can you think of who don’t fit that mold? It’s a consequence of imbibing the philosophy of hatred and bitterness dispensed by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and other racial hustlers. Then we have Obama’s moment of honesty in San Francisco. As a refresher, here is what he said: “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years . . . . And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” Many have labeled these comments elitist, and Obama has been trying to explain them away. But, again, the truth is plain. Apologists have asserted that Bill Clinton expressed the same sentiments in 1992; in other words, the best they can muster is that Obama is just like Clinton. And that is the point. Obama is a leftist, Clinton is a leftist, and that’s what leftists believe about “flyover country,” just as Michelle Obama’s statement reflects what they believe about the whole country. You needn’t be a clairvoyant to discern it. To understand what is most striking about those comments, though, you have to look more deeply. Notice he mentioned “religion” in the same breath as “guns” and “antipathy to people,” sandwiched right in-between the two. It’s hard to escape the conclusion that he draws an equivalency among those things, which speaks volumes. If you’re a person of faith, you understand that we’re supposed to cling to religion. After all, if you are serious about your faith, you must believe it is the Truth and that it is God’s will that you should practice it. And why wouldn’t you have the Truth at the center of your life? The only kind of person who wouldn’t have this perspective is one who has little or no faith. That certainly wouldn’t make Obama unique, but remember that he has often masqueraded as a man of faith, just as he now touts his support for second-amendment rights (in 1999 he supported a law that would have eliminated gun stores from virtually the whole country). But this bespeaks of a reality: There is Obama the myth, and Obama the man. If you want to know the former, listen to what he says; if you want to know the latter, accept what he is. And what is he? What is the truth about Barack Obama? You won’t hear it from the Sean Hannitys of the world, who will tell us that he is a “good man” with bad ideology. Such people are simple telling you what they’re supposed to believe; it’s what “fair and balanced” commentators do, the stuff of “acceptable” conservatives. The truth about Obama is that he is not a good man. He is a bad man. Good men don’t turn a blind eye to unrepentant ex-terrorists; support vile, anti-American bigots; lie about their core beliefs; and look down on traditional Americans. Most significantly, good men don’t allow beautiful babies – the least among us – to be discarded like refuse and die miserable, lonely deaths in dark utility rooms. In fact, if we cannot call Obama a bad man, there is no such thing as a bad man. And calling him a good man doesn’t just strain credulity, it puts it in the hospital in traction. Ah, yes, hope, change, unity, infanticide, bigotry, terrorism, Obama . . . good? We all know what is wrong with this picture. © 2008 Selwyn Duke - All Rights Reserve
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This turd of a person makes Hitlery! seem sweet and moderate. Mission Accomplished, Establishment !!
To understand what is most striking about those comments, though, you have to look more deeply. Notice he mentioned “religion” in the same breath as “guns” and “antipathy to people,” sandwiched right in-between the two. It’s hard to escape the conclusion that he draws an equivalency among those things, which speaks volumes. If you’re a person of faith, you understand that we’re supposed to cling to religion. After all, if you are serious about your faith, you must believe it is the Truth and that it is God’s will that you should practice it. And why wouldn’t you have the Truth at the center of your life? The only kind of person who wouldn’t have this perspective is one who has little or no faith. That certainly wouldn’t make Obama unique, but remember that he has often masqueraded as a man of faith, just as he now touts his support for second-amendment rights (in 1999 he supported a law that would have eliminated gun stores from virtually the whole country). But this bespeaks of a reality: There is Obama the myth, and Obama the man. If you want to know the former, listen to what he says; if you want to know the latter, accept what he is. Come out, come out! Wherever you are!
Is this for real? Good holy Lord......
You won't here it from the democrats who set us up to believe they were for Ron Paul, either, and who are now fawning and fainting over this black version of Marx.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx “As a nurse at an Illinois hospital in 1999, I discovered babies were being aborted alive and shelved to die in soiled utility rooms. I discovered infanticide.” The act was so vile that even staunch abortion advocates would not oppose BAIPA. Stanek tells us that it passed the Senate by unanimous vote, garnering the support of senators Kerry, Kennedy and Clinton. She then pointed out: “The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme.” But the state version of BAIPA failed for years in Illinois. Any guesses as to why? Stanek goes on to explain: I testified in 2001 and 2002 before a committee of which Obama was a member. Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed. Horse, isn't this what you mentioned a while back?? My God. Even Clinton got this right. This info needs to be shared far and wide.
Ultimate betrayal.
Honestly, is it any wonder that some people crack and kill ghoulish aborticiders...??
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
The thought of this just makes me sick. The dems have always used abortion as a rights issue, and now it can be seen as one of genocide. I remember seeing a T-shirt on a little kid that read, 'now that I'm here, I support abortion'. Probably one of the sickest things ever put on a kid. The older I get, the more horrifying is. Anyone, that is human, that think partial birth abortion is fine, ceases to be human in my eyes. Vengence does not belong to us, but to God. So... families need to educate their children about that.
Why would you support any of the three? You falsly imply an article against Obama implies support for the other candidate. Why? All 3 are KoOks. Only the brainwashed will vote for any of these clowns. A patriot..or a Ron Paul supporter..could never push the button for one of these benthic creatures.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx I'll support Hillary Clinton now. Go Hillary, yeah! Go Hillary, Yeah! Why would you, a Ron Paul Democrat, exercise yourself for ANY of these Establishment lackeys? How could you have gotten sucked in?
Pardon my redundancy, you beat me to the draw...
"Ds" It's in their Dna...
Because one has promised that we will get out of Iraq, and he spoke out against the Iraq war before it started. He just happens to be the one getting smeared by O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Fox News.
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds Can there be any clearer line between Ron Paul and Barack 'Baby Doc' Obama?
Exactly. Thank you.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
LOL...I love that one...MUD BTW...seriously, what EXACTLY happens in 2012?
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
HEAR HEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The turnout and dustup in NV was what I thought RP supporters would be doing. Yeah, we can't win, but here's a taste of how we feel.
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds I can't for one minute believe that YOU believe this Establishment clap trap. What about the RATS '06 mandate to 'bring them home'? Would you believe a promise from Juan McNAU or Hitlery!...? But you lap up this racist Marxist elitist's Zbig-Establishment crap with a large wooden spoon!!!!!!!
You play their game too well...they set you up and knock you down.
Don't believe a word that the supposed Ron Paul supporters - shilling for Baby Doc - have to say about anything...if they say the sky is blue, go outside and check.
Y W
When you act like one member of the Establishment's selections is credible, the rest of your credibility seeps out the window like a smelly fart...all of you sad sack O'philes.
Because you're effing traitors and I'll be DAMNED before I let you miserable Communist-loving wretches suck one more person in than necessary using this 4um...you're not to be trusted, any of you.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
The O'philes in my neck of the woods were asked not to show up at RP events any more...great idea.
www.breakthematrix.com/ Lyman's new website to help carry on the message and energy.
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds Wilson - No War against the Kaiser FDR - American boys will not set foot in Europe LBJ - No War in Indochina Nixon - I'll bring the troops home Bush Jr - Help is on the way. Bosnia is the EU's problem now. Obama? I'm not taking any bets. A canadate who comes out of no where preaching about humble foreign policy, unity, and bi-partisanship? My, that's sounds rather familiar. So do the talking points of his hard core supporters.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me. "If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.
oh boy. hit pieces? how about many of them being factual? and how about they're being posted as a response to the Savoir Obama articles. let me remind you, there is no one here defending hillary or mcCain. no one. so there's no reason to waste time with them. what's being posted by many here is that obama is different from those two. maybe he is in his rhetoric, but he's not in his actions. that's what we're trying to illuminate. *Obama Reality Check*
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
J T or Peppa nailed his warmongering tripe somewhere around here...
Go screw yourself you POS, you're not fooling me.
Good to know that all the endless attacks on Obama aren't a backdoor method of promoting a Hillary vs McCain match up in the fall. LOL
Yeah, like supporting an Establishment racist Marxist RAT when Ron Paul gets marginalized by the very same Establishment? You went running back out to the Establishment mud puddle as soon as you could...
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That pic is a hoot!
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
the one thing i did believe we were all united on is the reality of the two party fraud. seems that is not so.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Truth hurts, doesn't it you lying Open Borders-Marxist-loving-pussy-traitor! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
LOL!! Zero credibility. All shot to shiit for the status quo puppet show.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Exactly. Well said.
Obviously, the two party system knows exactly which buttons to push to keep the inside the beltway power structure in place. The want either McCain or Hillary in the White House - either is acceptable to them. We're doing their work for them by eliminating the only wild card that could upset their apple cart.
i'm not so sure that's even true. he has and will pay homage to Israel. foreign policy won't change, imo, with Obama. it's not the president who makes these decisions. obama, like the other two, will do the bidding of the masters. he wouldn't be a presidential candidate otherwise.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
there's our difference of opinion, arete, and it has nothing to do with his race. i don't believe he's the wild card that could upset their apple cart. i believe he's one apple in their cart.
To: ghostdogtxn AP and Jerusalem Post staff Jerusalem Post 02-28-2008 Headline: Israel's security is sacrosanct, Obama declares at Democrat debate Byline: AP and Jerusalem Post staff Edition; Daily Section: News Page: 07 Thursday, February 28, 2008 -- Senator Barack Obama voiced unreserved support for Israel on Tuesday night, but he clashed with Senator Hillary Clinton over campaign tactics and the war in Iraq during a crackling debate one week before a pivotal group of primaries. While discussing issues of anti-Semitism, Obama said: "One of the reasons why so many of my supporters come from the Jewish community...is that I have been a stalwart friend of Israel and supported the special relationship we enjoy with it... They are among our most important allies and their security is sacrosanct."
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
You RAT Commie Lying Shills are Pussies to boot !!
The D shills had it good on 4um until they made a break for Marxist BHO...
Got your number and you know it...you had it good, dintya?
F*_ck the Establishment's McHillObama selections. What is it about Marxism that you think will benefit you (forget America, I don't believe any of you Ophiles when it comes to the Constitution)? Government healthcare? More Welfare? ????
I don't believe that these Ophiles don't understand the Establishment's game, resurrecting candidates from the dead and setting them up as Nominee's of their Cabal Party...these liars watched BHO get positioned by the Establishment at the 2004 RAT Convention. I'll be most of them pulled the lever for the Establishment last round as well.
Headline: Israel's security is sacrosanct, Obama declares at Democrat debate Byline: AP and Jerusalem Post staff Edition; Daily Section: News Page: 07 Thursday, February 28, 2008 -- Senator Barack Obama voiced unreserved support for Israel on Tuesday night, but he clashed with Senator Hillary Clinton over campaign tactics and the war in Iraq during a crackling debate one week before a pivotal group of primaries. While discussing issues of anti-Semitism, Obama said: "One of the reasons why so many of my supporters come from the Jewish community...is that I have been a stalwart friend of Israel and supported the special relationship we enjoy with it... They are among our most important allies and their security is sacrosanct." Invisible ink; Ophiles can't see it...
All the planning for the big jump. The brow beating strategies, the lies, the smears, the attempted demoralization of RP supporters. So sure that if beaten down enough, the only place to go would be BabyDoc-ville. And still they are dishonest about getting out of Iraq. You can not make the jump from RP to Obama and expect that to look logical or accidental. 100% jumped at the same time.. They waited for their first opportunity, and jammed. Well most are exposed..
FOH, like most Zionist agitprop disrupter's, has diarrhea of the brain. What's drooling from from its mouth unto its keyboard is stinking up our forum.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
Well most are exposed.. Couldn't have said it better...
Still too chickenshit to ping me? You lap up the commie drippings with the same spoon bluedog/robin/ari/all other Ophiles do. I've found that most (not all) posters throwing around "ziothis" and "ziothat" are muhammadans and/or Commie RATS. Care to share?
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Who in their proper Constitutional mind would ever want anything to do with you Marxist "D" Ophiles? You're betrayers, liars, agents of dissension and much worse...
No, it's not old at all.. As for "jumping ship", as I recall, it was Cynicom who led that particular charge, with his demanding his beer money back and talk of Ron Paul giving up on us and all that. Granted, a lot of us fell into the trap of thinking that Ron Paul must be finished, since that was the prevailing tone around here, and started looking at what was left, but that hardly makes us "moles". Many were more than happy to use that situation to pile on and then try to convert others to Obama. Cyni, did not jump to Baby Doc. Look, you guys knew what you were doing and still I look for anything rational to explain how you folks could even consider Obama. When a reason was finally pryed out, they were easily and factually retired as other than legitimate. But still you guys hung on to this radical. I don't care what train you are on. You folks have fought valiantly for the golbalists, and tried to beat others down. Now you're going to infiltrate RP support groups and pretend you understand what he stands for? Yeah, that's cool. Operation chaos from within. Thats how to destroy the whole thing. Isn't that how a couple of you operated to begin with. I hope they throw your asses out. Relationships here?? Oh please GDT.. why cry now?? You folks did it to yourselfs, and in fact are still blaming us for catching on. Tell it someone else.. In fact, take your new re-borned self and go to another forum and try to convert them to Paul or whoever you want. People have wondered beyond partisanship what the hell was going on, and I think we are pretty close to seeing it.
Have you joined the ObamaNation, Tex? Regards...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Great Post bump
You're the 4um Pubbie neocon Establishment bootlicker who will vote for left wingers like Mitt Romney, but we have plenty of 4um Rats that will pull the lever for Stalinists-Marxists of the Establishment as well...
Yep...Mitt was my anti-Establishment vote...LOL!! For the record, I talked to George Allen Saturday afternoon and told him to his face, "YOU will be elected President of the US in 2016!!" His response, "Cool, send me an e-mail with details!!" Heh heh heh...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Am I the only one? LOL...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Am I the only one? LOL...MUD The only one that's admitted it thus far !! I stopped drinking the Kool Aid when I got to peek behind the curtain...
Ask him why he supports the merger on all levels of America, Mexico and Canada...
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I still think he's a lousy candidate who will make a lousy president. Of course, Mitt Romney was always the worst of them all. I'm a Paulite. You're a two-faced liar. At least MUDBOT is an honest Establishment guy, for the most part...
More Welfare? Dig your head out of the sand pal. We're already well on our way to a socialist/fascist state. As long as politicians can promise a free lunch and use debt creation to create the money to pay for it, it's a done deal. "Rebate" checks stated going out yesterday.
So why are you supporting one of the Establishment's 3 warmongering Global Orderists' Socialist/Commie/Fascist stoolies?
The very thought of having to listen to Hillary Clinton for the next 4 (8) years makes me want to vomit.
this is the arete i've always known. why then your sudden support of and belief in obama as a wild card who can upset the apple cart?
Gdt, Justin is blind in one eye. That you and he can not come to terms with the facts of Iraq, the agreements that have been made to stay, the larger plans for a wider war.. tells me, either you CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT, or you rather ignore it to get your lefty radical in the job. Or in other words, NOT HILLARY OR MCCAIN. This is not a lesser of 3 game. None of the 3 are acceptable. Peoples lives are at stake, and this is not a game.. I know you know that, and if your kid was there, maybe you have family there, what you want is the TRUTH about the situation.. not phony promises and wishes, or fairytails, or BS boldface pandering to the rubes. Follow your heart.. if you think a communist and a racist is your cup of tea, and can see how lovely communists and racists treat their dissenters... then sure, pretend that Obama will not deliver a New Plantation. I'm sure he will respect the voice of the people like all globalists. In fact.. go turn in your weapons to show your faith should Obama be seated upon the pedestal. Seriously... If justin thinks Obama is the answer, he's as much a shill for the status quo as Fox news. Herding folks to a bad choice is what globalists do. We lose they win. Repeat cycle every 4 years. Playing both sides of the street is what the PTB do! Sorry, Baby Doc is not the lesser of the 3, he is one of the 3.
Deduction from the way the corporate media, Hillary and the GOP is now attacking him. Definitely a red flag that the extablishment (business as usual) doen't want him. If "they" don't want him, I do. You see what they did to Ron Paul?
Then don't listen. That's no reason to go with ANY of the quislings...
Intellectual dishonesty or stark stupidity. They're too informed to claim the latter...
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
They're too informed to claim the latter... I totally agree with that. And there's more to it. We'll get there.
Maybe, in their slits for eyes, the Clintons...of the Bush Crime Family...weren't quite the neocommies like these folks like...they're neocons in their eyes. What they don't get is that neocons ARE neocommies and neocommies ARE neocons...or maybe they DO get it! Hillary is "attacking" him becasue he is her opponent. The GOP is "attacking" him becasue he is the likely Dem nominee. The main stream media has given Obama a free ride for a long time. They have managed to keep secret his 8 year employment by Ayers until now. They are still keeping secret his opposition to the born alive infants protection bill. How any good person can support such an evil person is beyond me. Even Hillary was not in opposition to this bill.
God is always good!
That's probably what Ron Paul is thinking too. /s
Or the greater puppet to usher in more fascism. Since we have scrutinized his record, we have been called racists. When we say, why not ask him the same questions as you harped should be asked of RP, we heard silence. Then, well, he'd get his head shot off if he did. Why the double standard then... when you know............ Point for point, any standard layed at the foot of RP, was ignored as one that should apply to Obama. Using those as multiple examples of dishonesty right here in this forum... you really can't tell me that having Obama as president would not deliver the same sort of insanity on a national scale, with the media decrying every question to him as coming from those GD clingy relgionista's and gun goobers. Every thing will be viewed through the prism of racism. WE've been living with that crap for 30 years or more. Now Rev Wright just confirms that is their truth. This was pumped into Baby Docs head for 20 years, not counting his influences prior to that 'madrassa'. Stick to your guns.. You've just turned yourself around again to reveal, you really aren't quite able to decide who you are. What your principles are, and which of those are most important to our own survival. Actually, I do think you benefit from globalist policies, with helping illegals stay in the country. Take a hard look at Zbig and his bookend Kissenger...if you care to see where we are being herded. As Zbig stated, the war has to stop--- it's giving a bad face to imperialism. Not that imperialism should stop, but we need someone to put a new face on it. And you guys fell head over heels for the tripe.
Hmmmmmmmmm.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Kissenmyzbig bump
So I gotta go with half a loaf if I can get it. The others are certainly ops for the (Progressive World Orderist) Establishment. American Traitor OBL-dog might just be a useful idiot...
Funny. FOH posted a thread about Warren Buffett's economic views yesterday, and he has told us he recently had lunch with the man. Warren Buffett supports Obama. I wonder if FOH told Buffett that he is a "traitor." FOH once got mad at me for suggesting the idea of a Ron Paul/Kucinich ticket. Afterwards, he kept calling me a "Kucinich Commie." He told us he was at a breakfast with Ron Paul a few months ago. Ron Paul and Kucinich are friends. I wonder if FOH told Ron Paul he is a "Kucinich Commie." Or does he restrict that kind of talk to his postings on the Web?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Am I off your filter now, pussy? Because I commented on that thread...
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I've had him on Bozo for weeks. And yes, it is a relief.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
We all know you CFR-D-Commies got some of your people too close to the campaign.
And yes, it is a relief. Of course it's a relief. Relatively guilt-free Liberal Establishment shilling...pussies.
I knew he was Establishment elitist back when I did my first deal with him. I will take from the wealth of the wicked at every turn and gleefully...
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Come on you shill, you pinged me. Let's go! I have a few minutes before I have to head out, let's do this !!
Sigh. What a dick. pussy
LOL...nonsense, McCain was as bad as it gets for the GOP nomination, you bigoted anti-Mormon!! I'm not proud that I voted for an ex-Taxachusetts Governor, but he was the least-objectionable of the GOPers with a chance to win. George "Macaca" Allen ROCKS...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, You know, I didn't keep a list of who said what, but of the 4 lead dogs, it was one of you. You have some other little helpers that show up from time to time... I do have a list. As far as the Muslim 'crap', I'm not so sure it's all crap. But that's not my hang-up with the good Doc. One thing for sure, he is no Christian. And having studied the theology of his church and some of his friends involvement in the reparations movement, and his support of them, says to me the intrigue with Africa is not something the rest of us made up out of thin air. Enough has been posted here for you to read and discern that on your own. As well as what 'social gospel' and 'social justice' means. How stupid to you take us for? When Ron Paul was accused of being racist because some skinhead donated to his campaign, I said that was bullshit. When he was called racist because somebody put something racist in his bulletin from years ago, I called bullshit. When people said he's a racist by association because of David Duke liking him, I said that was bullshit. When I object to the same kind of "guilt by association" crap being pointed at Obama, I'm suffering from white guilt, obviously... Well good for you.. you should've slapping around the folks on the Otrain for that. There is some guilt by association when the man speaks the language of his madrassa. The way he spoke about white people in his books, on his tapes and in his speech, did not come forth from the evil talking point center at the Earths core. Come ON... Get real. As for "getting his head shot off" I always sort of figured that if Ron Paul actually won the GOP nomination, he'd be in a lot more danger of getting his head shot off than Obama. Do I think Obama is in line for an assassination? I don't think it's unlikely, for no other reason than I think Hillary wouldn't hesitate to have it done, and it would play nicely into other folks' martial law plans. My point was, you ophiles said it was fine for Obama to duck the question, but the standard was different for Ron Paul. That's EXACTLY what happened here. No spinning it. As for Zbig's association with Obama and the war giving a bad face to Imperialism, I don't really care what the motivation for stopping the war is if the war stops. Without Ron Paul in the White House, or a bunch of Ron Paul surrogates in congress, Imperialism ISN'T going to stop, period. Yes, we all know this.. However Ron Paul can simply refuse the fund the war.. Ron Paul's position on domestic issues, is sane rather than commie insanity. So I gotta go with half a loaf if I can get it. Of course.. it's in your interest.
How interesting that you have a list! Are we supposed to be scared?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I told you the other day I never said any such thing. Funny if you still haven't been able to determine who said it. If anyone said it, that is.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
American Traitor OBL-dog might just be a useful idiot... No doubt. Global tax?? Oh, he's useful. For now. He'll take VP to Hillary. No doubt Sharpton, Wright, Jackson will help the nation heal............/s
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Yeah, life was better as a guilt free Commie RAT...wasn't it?
If you want to be, however your cover is blown here along with your gang...
Funny if you still haven't been able to determine who said it. If anyone said it, that is. I told you to check with you worm leader. I'm not your paralegal or your secretary or your grunt. Do your own homework. You act like I'm the only one that saw it. No.. others read too.
bump for the road
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
It will make you unhappy, I promise. Worm busting is fun!
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
You're the one who made the claim. If you can't back it up, I think it's reasonable for us to believe you're talking through your hat. After all, another one of the people you suggested might have said has now also denied ever saying it.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Maybe there's a thread I missed or something. Check with your worm leader.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I added him a day or 2 ago. Apparently calling people commies is the most intellectual response he can muster to anyone on just about any issue on the table.
If you can't back it up, I think it's reasonable for us to believe you're talking through your hat. After all, another one of the people you suggested might have said has now also denied ever saying it. I can't attest to your sanity. Deny all you want. Again, I'm not the only one who reads, nor was it said only one time. You were relatively quiet before the Otrain arrived, but you been quite the yapper ever since. Great to see you engaged! You never think you have to answer a direct question, and consider yourself quite the authority on all things, because you say so. I forgot, are we to call you commander, or lieutenant today? Tut-tut.. lest we forget our place in your presence. Now, go gurgle and tip your tea or whatever you elites do.
Glad to help.
Lenin often described his bourgeois opponents as parasites, insects, leeches, bloodsuckers etc. Hitler and the Nazis were fond of describing Jews as "vermin" (Ungeziefer) and compared them with rats. It goes with the totalitarian mentality.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Gdt, I have restated it over and over and all of a sudden now, you want me to say it again. Just go back and read.. go back it's there in black and white. I have zero incentive to help you understand anything, since you folks have pulled this shitty stunt in this forum. Bye.
Only someone who has never been in the military would think a retired lieutenant commander like myself is addressed as "lieutenant." And only someone who has not been in the military would doubt that lieutenant commanders are properly addressed as "Commander."
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Hitler and the Nazis were fond of describing Jews as "vermin" (Ungeziefer) and compared them with rats. It goes with the totalitarian mentality. Thank you. I can't expect you to do anything other than what you are now doing.. you are gutless to scrutinize Obama. So be it, worm.
And only someone who has not been in the military would doubt that lieutenant commanders are properly addressed as "Commander." You seem to want to be called one or the other, as you have pointed it out before.. I was just wondering which it was for today.
She's complaining that Obama has been allowed to duck some question that some Obamaphile -- I have no idea who, if any -- complained about Ron Paul ducking. I'm afraid I don't remember what question.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I'm interrupting your regularly scheduled flaming for this important announcement: "The Northern onslaught upon slavery was no more than a piece of specious humbug designed to conceal its desire for economic control of the Southern states." Charles Dickens, 1862
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I defy you to find a posting where I asked to be called "Lieutenant." You can't, because I never did. Actually, I never even asked to be called "Commander" or "Lieutenant Commander." I pointed out, in relation to Obama's being called a "professor," that one example of a courteous elevation in title is the military custom of addressing Lieutenant Commanders as "Commander," as I, being a Lieutenant Commander, am well aware. You then proceeded to mockingly address me as "Commander."
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
When talking to people, I almost always refer to Ron Paul as Dr. Ron Paul. Particularly since MSM rarely does.
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Well, we're out of patience for your problem.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
LOL!! Awwwww..
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
For the record, I like "GHOSTdog" better than "BLUEdog", Tex...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, You're a D since '84, ergo, hard core leftist.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Slick Willie thanking Reverend Wright--in advance--for torpedoing Barry
Hussein's 2008 Presidential campaign...MUD
(i had to edit out the oversized jpg, Mud) christine
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Sorry you feel that way. Lot's of people have been watching you. .
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I guess we all should be. They're keeping a list!
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Well, I do know that you support illegal immigrants, voted for Bill Clinton, support gay rights, are a member of the socialist wing of the National party since '84, have buckets of white guilt, support Obama because he's semi black, and most unfortunately, have sired at least two children whose heads are being filled w/liberal swill on a daily basis. You earn your living in East Shit kick TX, which is good because your limited skill set would be lost in a medium to large city. Nailed it, no??
I don't think that McCain stands the chance of a snowball in hell. I believe the fix is in and it's the D's turn to rule the empire and rape and pillage the planet including the American public.
The last poster I recall keeping a list was Becky Saunders over on LP. He threatened to report certain posters on his list.
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
The polls are rigged like most everything else. They'll try to make it look like a close race even when it isn't. Gives them a lot of time to collect contributions and "catapult the propaganda" to the masses.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
What if you are wrong?
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Need you be so harsh to fellow posters? Is that a recruitment strategy for you and christine? Sheeesh, that was VERY harsh...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, The truth is what it is.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
recruitment strategy? what are you talking about? in case you've never seen it, here's Freedom4um's mission statement (reason for being).
Sheeesh, that was VERY harsh...MUD WTF? Now that is a gay thing to say! Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Yeah, Tex has a history of voting for RATS, but he's good people...we all make mistakes. Heck, one year I even voted fer Bobdole...LOL!!
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Anyone who supports the illegal invasion of this country isn't a good guy.
The illegal aliens are already calling us American citizens being here an illegal occupation of the country.
"...here's Freedom4um's mission statement (reason for being). The mission of this forum is to provide a cyberspace meeting place where lovers of individual freedom can gather to post articles and opinions about the world's events and how these events affect their unalienable rights to life, liberty, and property." Thanks, christine, I did not know that. Now, let me tell you a little story...once upon a time, a long, long time ago, I used to post at FR.com...LOL!! Well, back in the 2004 race, I refused to endorse the big-spending Dubyuh well into the autumn, and actually posted articles supporting the candidacy of Peroutka, the Constitution Party candidate, to FR's Forum. Needless to say, I made some enemies amongst the BushOrBust folks...LOL!! Well, due in part to my recent discomfort at posting on FR, I started to hang out on LibertyPost.org. All my FReeper FRiends asked, "What the HELL do you think you're doing posting on an anti-FReeper site?!" LOL...I remember specifically telling them, "If you wanna save souls, you gotta go where the sinners are!!" Heh heh heh...I'm not sayin' you and/or your posters are "sinners", but I do look at each and every one of you/them as folks in need of political salvation. Jethro, if, by being mean and obstinate, you chase off Tex, what have you accomplished? NOTHING!! Just another recruit to the DailyKOS or the RATunderground!! So be nice, you attract more bees with honey than you do with vinegar...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Tex, say it ain't so...are you pro-Amnesty for ILLEGALS?
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Don't make me come thru this computer and whup yer arse...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, 'Cuz I will...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Tex also denies long weekends spent in the woods with very young boy scouts. Never believe a
You don't seem to object to the illegal invasion of Iraq.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Not true, but it's become back burner news afa politics. Sorry, but it's the economy that has the attention of the nation.
Hey Preppy, Google Tommy Davis, LA Dodgers - 1963 - Damn straight I'm black.
apparently you've not paid attention to JT's posts over the past 5 yrs. he and his ink led the anti-war discussions (and eventual exodus) on LP when Goldi the warbot took over. it's what led to the creation of FreedomUnderground and then 4um.
Is that how it played out? First LP, then FU, then the 4um? LOL...that's exactly the route I took...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, LOL...methinks you ain't Tommy Davis. BTW...he was an excellent outfielder...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, He had a few real great years, I don't recall his defensive skill. And who could forget Muary Wills? Dem bums never should have left Brooklyn.
Tommy Davis, OF, Dodgers...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, That's my name. Lots of kidding in HS.
I've paid attention to a number of his posts like #183.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
this insinuation by you and others that because we're not for obama and see him as establishment--the same as hillary and mccain--that that makes us pro war and pro mccain is total bull, ari. we're not the ones who have changed. our positions and principles have remained steadfast.
The same people who sound like Fox News and Limbaugh listeners have called me names and said I was a plant who never really supported Ron Paul. It's not my fault if they parrot the RNC talking points.
“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds You don't have to defend this forum to that disruptor.
It's a dirty job but somebody better do it.
Well, I can't help but be a little ticked off at the Mexicans for totally disrespecting the laws of this nation. But the real culprits are the employers who continue to hire ILLEGALS, and the Federal Leviathan for refusing to secure our borders...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Marxist Establishment Liberation Theology Warmongering World Orderist Set Up Man North American Unioners bump
Tex, say it ain't so...are you pro-Amnesty for ILLEGALS? No. What's happened is that I've posted things along the lines of feeling sympathy for illegals, because I think if I lived in Juarez and couldn't make more than $50 a week to support my family, whereas I could make $80 a day across the border, I'd cross the border and take my chances. Since that's what I'd do, I can't get too pissed at some Mexican doing the same thing. It's sort of a "mile in the other guy's shoes" kind of thing. At the same time, I've always supported deportation and building a wall or fence, as well as sanctions against employers. But because I don't think Mexicans ought to be shot crossing the desert and I don't think employers should be deliberately put out of business or hanged for "treason" for each offense, I "support" illegal immigration. It's a "with us or against us" kind of thing, and since I haven't jumped on the shoot 'em all and bury the bodies in shit bandwagon, I'm not a purist, and therefore must be one of the enemies. So, to make a long answer brief, I don't support Amnesty and never have. I also posted a spoof piece on El Pee about hiring a contractor to put an addition on my house entitled "I just put an addition on my house (ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!)" My intent there was to poke fun at the rabid postings of a certain character named "Midwest Minuteman". You don't poke fun at these people, I tell ya. You're a lying parser in the Junior Bill Job Clinton vein...
The number of contractors hiring illegals in my neck of the woods has gone down dramatically...and many contractors dried up long before the Federal Leviathan's credit bubble burst...employing more Americans at better wages. heheheh
The few highly-publicized busts seems to have scared some employers...we need more such busts...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
BTTT
Ah, yes, hope, change, unity, infanticide, bigotry, terrorism, Obama . . . good?
#2. To: All, *Obama 2008* (#1)
Obama is a leftist, Clinton is a leftist, and that’s what leftists believe about “flyover country,” just as Michelle Obama’s statement reflects what they believe about the whole country. You needn’t be a clairvoyant to discern it.
#3. To: IndieTX (#0)
Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights.
#4. To: All (#0)
What is the truth about Barack Obama? You won’t hear it from the Sean Hannitys of the world, who will tell us that he is a “good man” with bad ideology
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#5. To: Horse (#0)
Let me tell you a story. In 2002, President Bush signed into law a bill titled the “Born Alive Infants Protection Act” (BAIPA). This law was necessary because, believe it or not, infants were being born alive during attempted abortions and then, ancient Spartan style, left to die. Jill Stanek wrote about this last year, saying:
#6. To: IndieTX (#4)
You won't here it from the democrats who set us up to believe they were for Ron Paul, either, and who are now fawning and fainting over this black version of Marx.
#7. To: Peppa (#5)
“As a nurse at an Illinois hospital in 1999, I discovered babies were being aborted alive and shelved to die in soiled utility rooms. I discovered infanticide.”
#8. To: robin, iconoclast, Brian S, aristeides, Zoroaster, *Obama Reality Check* (#2)
Come out, come out! Wherever you are!
#9. To: IndieTX (#0)
#10. To: FOH (#7)
Honestly, is it any wonder that some people crack and kill ghoulish aborticiders...??
#11. To: ghostdogtxn (#9)
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#12. To: ghostdogtxn (#9)
O you've convinced me. Barack is bad, McCain is worse...
#13. To: Peppa (#10)
#14. To: ghostdogtxn, IndieTX, FOH (#11)
Why would you support any of the three? You falsly imply an article against Obama implies support for the other candidate. Why? All 3 are KoOks. Only the brainwashed will vote for any of these clowns. A patriot..or a Ron Paul supporter..could never push the button for one of these benthic creatures.
#15. To: IndieTX (#11)
Why would you support any of the three? You falsly imply an article against Obama implies support for the other candidate. Why? All 3 are KoOks. Only the brainwashed will vote for any of these clowns. A patriot..or a Ron Paul supporter..could never push the button for one of these benthic creatures.
#16. To: FOH (#13)
#17. To: TwentyTwelve (#14)
#18. To: TwentyTwelve (#16)
#19. To: IndieTX (#11)
Why would you support any of the three?
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
#20. To: FOH (#7)
#21. To: FOH (#13)
King James Bible O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself.
#22. To: IndieTX (#11)
#23. To: TwentyTwelve (#14)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#24. To: FOH (#12)
#25. To: IndieTX (#11)
Why would you support any of the three? You falsly imply an article against Obama implies support for the other candidate. Why? All 3 are KoOks. Only the brainwashed will vote for any of these clowns. A patriot..or a Ron Paul supporter..could never push the button for one of these benthic creatures.
#26. To: ghostdogtxn (#22)
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
#27. To: robin (#19)
Because one has promised
#28. To: robin (#19)
He just happens to be the one getting smeared by O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Fox News.
#29. To: Peppa (#20)
Can there be any clearer line between Ron Paul and Barack 'Baby Doc' Obama?
#30. To: Peppa (#21)
Exactly. Thank you.
#31. To: ghostdogtxn (#22)
Obama is the most likely to end the war in Iraq
#32. To: ghostdogtxn (#24)
(Edited)
And why would you, a Ron Paul Republican (former, bet you're still a "D", ain'tcha?), waste your energy, outrage and vitriol on other folks, formerly very much in agreement with you, on which of the 3 bad choices they have left?
#33. To: robin (#26)
#34. To: ghostdogtxn (#33)
Yep. And we ought to do it whenever we can.
#35. To: ghostdogtxn (#33)
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
#36. To: FOH (#27)
What about the RATS '06 mandate to 'bring them home'?
#37. To: ghostdogtxn (#22)
What I do see a lot of is posters here and at El Pee carrying water for Hillary or for McCain by posting an endless stream of what can be charitably described as "hit pieces" against Obama.
#38. To: FOH (#32)
#39. To: Pissed Off Janitor, Jethro Tull, Peppa (#36)
Obama? I'm not taking any bets. A canadate who comes out of no where preaching about humble foreign policy, unity, and bi-partisanship? My, that's sounds rather familiar. So do the talking points of his hard core supporters.
#40. To: ghostdogtxn (#38)
#41. To: christine (#37)
#42. To: ghostdogtxn (#38)
(Edited)
You don't join common cause with people in an endeavor and then as soon as things go wrong start accusing them of treason because they see a different way out than you do.
#43. To: christine, *Obama Reality Check* (#37)
oh boy. hit pieces? how about many of them being factual? and how about they're being posted as a response to the Savoir Obama articles. let me remind you, there is no one here defending hillary or mcCain. no one. so there's no reason to waste time with them. what's being posted by many here is that obama is different from those two. maybe he is in his rhetoric, but he's not in his actions. that's what we're trying to illuminate. *Obama Reality Check*
#44. To: Mudboy Slim (#23)
#45. To: robin (#35)
#46. To: Arete (#41)
#47. To: FOH (#31)
#48. To: FOH (#34)
#49. To: ghostdogtxn (#47)
Fuck off, douchebag.
#50. To: FOH (#29)
if they say the sky is blue, go outside and check.
#51. To: christine (#37)
#52. To: FOH (#49)
#53. To: christine (#37)
oh boy. hit pieces? how about many of them being factual? and how about they're being posted as a response to the Savoir Obama articles. let me remind you, there is no one here defending hillary or mcCain. no one. so there's no reason to waste time with them. what's being posted by many here is that obama is different from those two. maybe he is in his rhetoric, but he's not in his actions. that's what we're trying to illuminate. *Obama Reality Check*
#54. To: christine (#46)
the one thing i did believe we were all united on is the reality of the two party fraud. seems that is not so.
#55. To: ghostdogtxn (#51)
There's a difference between "savior Obama" pieces (which I don't think are being posted here much, frankly) and posts that say Obama is (or just might be) different from the other two. I don't know that he's different or any better than the other two, I just know that out of the 3 POSs who are considered "viable" at this point, he's the only one the Zios can't stand.
#56. To: christine (#55)
#57. To: Arete (#54)
We're doing their work for them by eliminating the only wild card that could upset their apple cart.
#58. To: ghostdogtxn (#51)
he's the only one the Zios can't stand
#59. To: Jethro Tull (#58)
#60. To: ghostdogtxn (#52)
bye.
#61. To: Peppa (#50)
Zero credibility. All shot to shiit for the status quo puppet show.
#62. To: ghostdogtxn (#51)
I don't think that gives anyone license to come after me as some kind of "traitor" or "Ophile" or "white guilter" or whatever, and I'm damned if I'll put up with it from the likes of an intellectually vapid lightweight like FOH.
#63. To: Arete (#54)
#64. To: christine (#55)
(Edited)
he wouldn't be a presidential candidate otherwise.
#65. To: Jethro Tull (#58)
02-28-2008
#66. To: FOH (#61)
The D shills had it good on 4um until they made a break for Marxist BHO...
#67. To: ghostdogtxn (#47)
#68. To: Peppa, *Obama Reality Check* (#66)
All the planning for the big jump. The brow beating strategies, the lies, the smears, the attempted demoralization of RP supporters. So sure that if beaten down enough, the only place to go would be BabyDoc-ville. And still they are dishonest about getting out of Iraq. You can not make the jump from RP to Obama and expect that to look logical or accidental. 100% jumped at the same time.. They waited for their first opportunity, and jammed.
#69. To: Zoroaster (#67)
(Edited)
#70. To: Zoroaster (#67)
#71. To: Peppa (#66)
#72. To: ghostdogtxn (#71)
Maybe now that we see he hasn't, we can start to mend those bridges between us? I'd like to see that happen.
#73. To: ghostdogtxn (#71)
Don't you think that gets a bit old?
#74. To: ghostdogtxn (#47)
"...all of you sad sack O'philes."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#75. To: Peppa (#73)
#76. To: Mudboy Slim (#74)
#77. To: FOH (#76)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#78. To: FOH, all (#76)
"You're the 4um Pubbie neocon Establishment bootlicker who will vote for left wingers like Mitt Romney..."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#79. To: Peppa (#73)
#80. To: Mudboy Slim (#78)
"You're the 4um Pubbie neocon Establishment bootlicker who will vote for left wingers like Mitt Romney..."
#81. To: Mudboy Slim (#77)
For the record, I talked to George Allen Saturday afternoon and told him to his face, "YOU will be elected President of the US in 2016!!"
#82. To: Mudboy Slim (#74)
#83. To: ghostdogtxn (#82)
Naw. I only think he's the least bad out of McCain, Clinton, Obama.
#84. To: FOH (#63)
Government healthcare?
#85. To: Arete (#84)
#86. To: FOH (#85)
(Edited)
#87. To: Arete (#84)
We're already well on our way to a socialist/fascist state. As long as politicians can promise a free lunch and use debt creation to create the money to pay for it, it's a done deal. "Rebate" checks stated going out yesterday.
#88. To: ghostdogtxn (#79)
#89. To: christine (#87)
(Edited)
this is the arete i've always known. why then your sudden support of and belief in obama as a wild card who can upset the apple cart?
#90. To: Arete (#86)
The very thought of having to listened to Hillary Clinton for the next 4 (8) years makes me want to vomit.
#91. To: Peppa (#88)
This is not a lesser of 3 game. None of the 3 are acceptable.
#92. To: Peppa (#88)
#93. To: FOH (#91)
Intellectual dishonesty or stark stupidity.
#94. To: Peppa (#93)
And there's more to it. We'll get there.
#95. To: Arete (#89)
Deduction from the way the corporate media, Hillary and the GOP is now attacking him.
#96. To: ghostdogtxn (#92)
Do I think Obama will do a good job as president? Categorically the answer is a resounding NO. I think he'll probably be hobbled and remarkably ineffective. That makes him the least dangerous of the dangerous 3.
#97. To: ghostdogtxn (#92)
Do I think Obama will do a good job as president? Categorically the answer is a resounding NO. I think he'll probably be hobbled and remarkably ineffective. That makes him the least dangerous of the dangerous 3.
#98. To: FOH (#94)
...or maybe they DO get it!
#99. To: Peppa (#97)
#100. To: Peppa (#97)
Point for point, any standard layed at the foot of RP, was ignored as one that should apply to Obama.
#101. To: ghostdogtxn, Peppa (#99)
As for Zbig's association with Obama and the war giving a bad face to Imperialism, I don't really care what the motivation for stopping the war is if the war stops. Without Ron Paul in the White House, or a bunch of Ron Paul surrogates in congress, Imperialism ISN'T going to stop, period.
#102. To: ghostdogtxn, FOH (#38)
Because you're effing traitors
#103. To: aristeides (#102)
#104. To: aristeides (#102)
#105. To: ghostdogtxn, FOH (#104)
#106. To: aristeides (#102)
FOH once got mad at me for suggesting the idea of a Ron Paul/Kucinich ticket. Afterwards, he kept calling me a "Kucinich Commie." He told us he was at a breakfast with Ron Paul a few months ago.
#107. To: aristeides, bluedogtxn (#105)
I've had him on Bozo for weeks.
#108. To: aristeides (#102)
I wonder if FOH told Buffett that he is a "traitor."
#109. To: aristeides (#105)
#110. To: aristeides (#105)
#111. To: ghostdogtxn (#109)
Apparently he's fishing around to find out what handle I use to post on DU. Since I've been posting subtle pieces to support Ron Paul over there for a while, I suspect the idea is to "blow my cover" and try to get me banned.
#112. To: ghostdogtxn (#82)
"Mitt Romney was always the worst of them all."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#113. To: ghostdogtxn (#99)
I'm not sure who you are talking about. I've only called "racist" the stuff that's plainly, in my view, racist. The "he's a muslim" crap, the "white guilt" crap, the countless comparisons to Africa crap, and a lot of other stuff along those lines.
#114. To: Peppa (#113)
You know, I didn't keep a list of who said what, but of the 4 lead dogs, it was one of you. You have some other little helpers that show up from time to time... I do have a list.
#115. To: Mudboy Slim (#112)
#116. To: Peppa (#113)
My point was, you ophiles said it was fine for Obama to duck the question, but the standard was different for Ron Paul. That's EXACTLY what happened here. No spinning it.
#117. To: FOH (#101)
The others are certainly ops for the (Progressive World Orderist) Establishment.
#118. To: Peppa (#113)
#119. To: ghostdogtxn (#115)
Sadly, I have been exposed to Ron Paul.
#120. To: aristeides (#114)
Are we supposed to be scared?
#121. To: aristeides (#116)
I told you the other day I never said any such thing.
#122. To: Peppa (#117)
#123. To: Peppa (#113)
#124. To: ghostdogtxn (#118)
I do have a list. Do yourself a favor and rip it up.
#125. To: Peppa (#121)
#126. To: Peppa (#124)
#127. To: Peppa (#121)
#128. To: ghostdogtxn (#123)
guess I don't know what question you are talking about, then. Israel? 9-11?
#129. To: aristeides (#127)
#130. To: aristeides (#105)
I've had him on Bozo for weeks.
#131. To: aristeides (#127)
You're the one who made the claim.
#132. To: ghostdogtxn (#126)
You make me laugh sometimes, Peppa. I've gotta give you credit for that.
#133. To: Peppa (#124)
Worm busting is fun!
#134. To: ghostdogtxn (#125)
WTF question are you even talking about? You don't have to link it up, just in your own words, WTF are you talking about?
#135. To: Peppa, Fred Mertz (#131)
I forgot, are we to call you commander, or lieutenant today?
#136. To: aristeides (#133)
Worm busting is fun! Lenin often described his bourgeois opponents as parasites, insects, leeches, bloodsuckers etc.
#137. To: aristeides (#135)
I forgot, are we to call you commander, or lieutenant today? Only someone who has never been in the military would think a retired lieutenant commander like myself is addressed as "lieutenant."
#138. To: ghostdogtxn (#129)
Do you know what she's talking about, oh worm leader?
#139. To: IndieTX (#0)
#140. To: Peppa (#134)
#141. To: Peppa (#137)
You seem to want to be called one or the other, as you have pointed it out before
#142. To: aristeides (#138)
#143. To: aristeides (#141)
#144. To: X-15 (#139)
#145. To: aristeides (#141)
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
#146. To: X-15 (#139)
#147. To: ghostdogtxn (#140)
Okay, I guess you laid it out there somewhere, maybe I'm just extra dense today, but I still have no idea what you are talking about
#148. To: X-15 (#139)
#149. To: aristeides (#141)
You then proceeded to mockingly address me as "Commander."
#150. To: Peppa, aristeides (#147)
#151. To: ghostdogtxn (#115)
"...if I were still a hard core Democrat"
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#152. To: ghostdogtxn (#115)
I guess if I were still a hard core Democrat
#153. To: Mudboy Slim (#151)
#154. To: Jethro Tull (#152)
#155. To: ghostdogtxn (#153)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#156. To: ghostdogtxn (#150)
I think you ought to pull in your horns. Your bluff's been called, you can't produce, and now you're just talking weird.
#157. To: Mudboy Slim (#155)
#158. To: Peppa, aristeides (#156)
#159. To: ghostdogtxn, Peppa (#158)
Now I'm sceert.
#160. To: ghostdogtxn (#154)
You have no idea what I am.
#161. To: ghostdogtxn (#157)
McCain wins in the general
#162. To: aristeides (#159)
They're keeping a list!
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
#163. To: aristeides (#159)
#164. To: Jethro Tull (#160)
#165. To: Arete (#161)
#166. To: ghostdogtxn (#165)
reading the latest polls
#167. To: Arete (#166)
#168. To: Arete (#161)
"I believe the fix is in and it's the D's turn to rule the empire and rape and pillage the planet..."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#169. To: Jethro Tull, christine, ghostdogtxn (#160)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#170. To: Mudboy Slim (#169)
#171. To: Mudboy Slim, Jethro Tull (#169)
#172. To: Mudboy Slim (#169)
Is that a recruitment strategy for you and christine?
#173. To: Mudboy Slim, jethro tull, christine (#169)
Need you be so harsh to fellow posters? Is that a recruitment strategy for you and christine?
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#174. To: Jethro Tull, ghostdogtxn (#170)
"The truth is what it is."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#175. To: Mudboy Slim (#174)
Yeah, Tex has a history of voting for RATS, but he's good people...
#176. To: Jethro Tull (#175)
Anyone who supports the illegal invasion of this country isn't a good guy.
I've already said too much.
#177. To: christine, Jethro Tull, ghostdogtxn (#172)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#178. To: Jethro Tull, ghostdogtxn (#175)
"Anyone who supports the illegal invasion of this country isn't a good guy."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#179. To: IndieTX (#173)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#180. To: IndieTX (#173)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#181. To: Mudboy Slim (#178)
Tex, say it ain't so...
liar small time lawyer.
#182. To: Jethro Tull (#175)
Anyone who supports the illegal invasion of this country isn't a good guy.
#183. To: aristeides (#182)
You don't seem to object to the illegal invasion of Iraq.
#184. To: ghostdogtxn (#171)
It's a black thing. JT can't help it, it's in his genes.
#185. To: aristeides (#182)
You don't seem to object to the illegal invasion of Iraq.
#186. To: christine (#185)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#187. To: Jethro Tull (#184)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#188. To: Mudboy Slim (#187)
#189. To: Jethro Tull (#188)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#190. To: Mudboy Slim (#189)
#191. To: christine, Jethro Tull (#185)
#192. To: Mudboy Slim (#178)
#193. To: Jethro Tull (#184)
#194. To: aristeides (#191)
#195. To: christine (#194)
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."
#196. To: christine (#172)
recruitment strategy? what are you talking about?
#197. To: ghostdogtxn (#192)
"I think if I lived in Juarez and couldn't make more than $50 a week to support my family, whereas I could make $80 a day across the border, I'd cross the border and take my chances. Since that's what I'd do, I can't get too pissed at some Mexican doing the same thing."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#198. To: christine, *Obama Reality Check* (#194)
this insinuation by you and others that because we're not for obama and see him as establishment--the same as hillary and mccain--that that makes us pro war and pro mccain is total bull, ari. we're not the ones who have changed. our positions and principles have remained steadfast.
#199. To: ghostdogtxn (#192)
To: Mudboy Slim
"Anyone who supports the illegal invasion of this country isn't a good guy."
#200. To: Mudboy Slim (#197)
the real culprits are the employers who continue to hire ILLEGALS
#201. To: FOH (#200)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#202. To: Mudboy Slim (#197)
#203. To: ghostdogtxn (#202)
I agree.
#204. To: All (#5)
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