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Title: Bush / Cheney to Attempt Possible Coup
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Published: Jul 29, 2007
Author: tyrannyofsoulz
Post Date: 2008-04-29 12:24:16 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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Bush / Cheney to Attempt Possible Coup

Bush signs unconstitutional "power grab" presidential directives NSPD51 and HSPD20, giving him full-dictatorial powers in the event of a loosely defined "catastrophic emergency."


The directives define "catastrophic emergency" as "any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government function."

It also states, "The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government." In other words, the president gave himself the sole power and duty to interpret the constitution anyway he chooses, and neither Congress nor the public shall be allowed to debate or disagree on such matters.

Right now, the only thing standing between the United States' Constitutional Republic and Bush/Cheney's apparent desire to rule with an iron fist is a lesser event than that of 9/11.

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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

...nor the public shall be allowed to debate or disagree on such matters.

Wanna bet?

I hope "it" happens soon. I am not getting any younger.

It is good news that both "conservatives" and "liberals" are concerned about this. Good interview!

------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------

PSUSA  posted on  2008-04-29   13:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA, christine, ALL (#1)

Regardless of what anyone says, Jerome Corsi is a truly great American...a good, honest and very decent man.


FOH  posted on  2008-04-29   13:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA (#1)

Someone else caught this on C-SPAN

President Bush, without so much as issuing a press statement, on May 9 signed a directive that granted near dictatorial powers to the office of the president in the event of a national emergency declared by the president.

The "National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive," with the dual designation of NSPD-51, as a National Security Presidential Directive, and HSPD-20, as a Homeland Security Presidential Directive, establishes under the office of president a new National Continuity Coordinator.

Translated into layman's terms, when the President determines a national emergency has occurred, the President can declare to the office of the presidency powers usually assumed by dictators to direct any and all government and business activities until the emergency is declared over.

NSPD-51/ HSPD-20 also makes no reference whatsoever to Congress. The language of the May 9 directive appears to negate any a requirement that the President submit to Congress a determination that a national emergency exists, suggesting instead that the powers of the executive order can be implemented without any congressional approval or oversight.

Homeland Security spokesperson Russ Knocke affirmed that the Homeland Security Department will be implementing the requirements of NSPD-51/HSPD-20 under Townsend's direction.

The White House had no comment.

While no one was looking Bush appoints himself DICTATOR

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-04-29   13:09:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#3)


FOH  posted on  2008-04-29   13:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, All (#3)

While no one was looking Bush appoints himself DICTATOR

Only if we let him get away with it.

He can declare himself to be god, for all I care.

He won't get away with it, it's just that simple. He won't get away with it because he will not have enough people to enforce his dictates. The ones that try will have an "interesting" and "well deserved" fate.

The longer he waits, the more that wake up.

------They may look intimidating, that's by design; but they aren't bulletproof. -------

PSUSA  posted on  2008-04-29   13:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#3)

While no one was looking Bush appoints himself DICTATOR

www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bush_dictatorship

www.governing.com/archive/1998/jul/bush.txt

Bush dictatorship From SourceWatch

"The danger is not abstract or merely symbolic. Bush's abuses of presidential power are the most extensive in American history. He has launched an aggressive war ('war of choice,' in today's euphemism) on false grounds. He has presided over a system of torture and sought to legitimize it by specious definitions of the word. He has asserted a wholesale right to lock up American citizens and others indefinitely without any legal showing or the right to see a lawyer or anyone else. He has kidnapped people in foreign countries and sent them to other countries, where they were tortured. In rationalizing these and other acts, his officials have laid claim to the unlimited, uncheckable and unreviewable powers he has asserted in the wiretapping case. He has tried to drop a thick shroud of secrecy over these and other actions.

"There is a name for a system of government that wages aggressive war, deceives its citizens, violates their rights, abuses power and breaks the law, rejects judicial and legislative checks on itself, claims power without limit, tortures prisoners and acts in secret. It is dictatorship," Jonathan Schell wrote in the January 9, 2006, issue of The Nation.

According to George W. Bush

* "You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier."—Texas Governor, George W. Bush, Governing Magazine, July 1998.

* "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."—President-elect George W. Bush, CNN.com, December 18, 2000.

* "A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it."—President George W. Bush, Business Week, July 30, 2001.

* "To say 'unchecked power' basically is ascribing some kind of dictatorial position to the President, which I strongly reject."—President George W. Bush, White House Press Release, December 19, 2005.

On a dictatorial / imperial presidency

* "Paradoxically, preserving liberty may require the rule of a single leader—a dictator—willing to use those dreaded 'extraordinary measures,' which few know how, or are willing, to employ."—Michael Ledeen, White House advisor and fellow of the American Enterprise Institute, Machiavelli on Modern Leadership: Why Machiavelli’s Iron Rules Are As Timely and Important Today As Five Centuries Ago. [1]

* "This is not a monarchy. The legislative branch has oversight responsibility to make sure there is no corruption in the executive branch."—Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.), December 2001. [2]

* "An imperial presidency or an imperial justice department conflicts with the democratic principles of our nation."—Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.), December 2001. [3]

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-29   13:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PSUSA, noone222 (#5)

He (whorege arbusto) can declare himself to be god, for all I care.

I believe he's already been crowned GOG...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-29   13:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FOH (#7)

www.prisonplanet.com/arti.../170807_bush_dictator.htm

Neo-Cons: Make Bush Dictator Of The World

Maniacal right-wing Family Security Matters organization, which has ties to Cheney, Rumsfeld and Perle, carries screed that calls for Bush to declare martial law, become emperor of the planet, lifetime president, and ethnically cleanse Iraq by means of nuclear genocide

Paul Joseph Watson

Prison Planet

Friday, August 17, 2007

If you thought Stu Bykovsky's call for a new 9/11 was the lowest the Neo-Cons could sink, think again. A right-wing foundation with links to Dick Cheney has called for Bush to be made lifetime president, ruler of the world, and for Iraq to be ethnically cleansed of Arabs by means of a nuclear holocaust.

The Family Security Matters organization masquerades as an independent "think tank" yet was highly influential in President Bush's re-election in 2004 and has links to top Neo-Con ideologues.

The outfit poses as an advocacy group for a new breed of goose-stepping brownshirts - so-called "security moms," who are noted for their blind obedience to neo-conservatism as a result of believing every ounce of fearmongering that emanates from the Bush administration on the inevitability of mass casualty terror attacks.

"In late 2004, Media Matters for America discovered that the phone number listed on FSM's website actually belonged to the Center for Security Policy (CSP), a rabidly hardline foreign policy outfit run by former Reagan administration figure Frank Gaffney," reports Right Web.

The Center for Security Policy is an umbrella organization that includes the National Security Advisory Council, whose members hold senior positions within the Bush administration itself. Former and current members include Dick Cheney, Richard Perle, Elliott Abrams and the organization has also given awards to Donald Rumsfeld.

The FSM foundation itself also has ties to the Anti-Defamation League, the International Women's Forum, numerous nationwide television and print media outlets, and includes on its board of advisors Neo-Con radio host Laura Ingraham and former director of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, James Woolsey.

Representatives of FSM also routinely appear as guests on Fox News and their website is a cesspool of anti-American fervor - acting as a cheerleader for the invasion of Iran, the warrantless wiretapping program (opponents of which are labeled "traitors") and lauds the Patriot Act as "An irreplaceable tool utilized by our Secret Service to keep us safe."

In an August 3rd article, contributing editor and philosopher Philip Atkinson penned a feverish diatribe that calls for the end of democracy, for Bush to be made ruler of the world as Julius Caesar was made emperor of Rome, for Bush to be made lifetime President in the U.S., and for Iraq to be ethnically cleansed by means of nuclear genocide and re-populated with Americans.

The comments are so fundamentally sick and twisted that the reader must absorb the following passages in full to recognize the true depravity of what the Neo-Con fringe truly embrace.

After calling democracy 'the enemy of truth and justice', Atkinson openly calls for genocide and mass slaughter.

The simple truth that modern weapons now mean a nation must practice genocide or commit suicide. Israel provides the perfect example. If the Israelis do not raze Iran, the Iranians will fulfill their boast and wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

The wisest course would have been for President Bush to use his nuclear weapons to slaughter Iraqis until they complied with his demands, or until they were all dead.

Bush should be taking foreign policy tips from imperial dictator Julius Caesar, according to frustrated Neo-Cons.

He then cites Julius Caesar, the reviled dictator of the Roman Empire, as an example of how Bush should engage in rampant ethnic cleansing.

When the ancient Roman general Julius Caesar was struggling to conquer ancient Gaul, he not only had to defeat the Gauls, but he also had to defeat his political enemies in Rome who would destroy him the moment his tenure as consul (president) ended.

Caesar pacified Gaul by mass slaughter; he then used his successful army to crush all political opposition at home and establish himself as permanent ruler of ancient Rome. If President Bush copied Julius Caesar by ordering his army to empty Iraq of Arabs and repopulate the country with Americans, he would achieve immediate results: popularity with his military; enrichment of America by converting an Arabian Iraq into an American Iraq (therefore turning it from a liability to an asset); and boost American prestiege while terrifying American enemies.

Atkinson then concludes by stating such actions would allow Bush to declare martial law, become permanent President of the U.S. and eventually ruler of the entire world.

He could then follow Caesar's example and use his newfound popularity with the military to wield military power to become the first permanent president of America, and end the civil chaos caused by the continually squabbling Congress and the out-of-control Supreme Court.

President Bush can fail in his duty to himself, his country, and his God, by becoming “ex-president” Bush or he can become “President-for-Life” Bush: the conqueror of Iraq, who brings sense to the Congress and sanity to the Supreme Court. Then who would be able to stop Bush from emulating Augustus Caesar and becoming ruler of the world? For only an America united under one ruler has the power to save humanity from the threat of a new Dark Age wrought by terrorists armed with nuclear weapons.

The sheer abhorrence of the diatribe could lead many to think that this was some kind of attempt at black humor, a faux article written by a liberal intended as a parody to ridicule right-wingers, but it's not, it's real - this is what many of the Neo-Cons actually embrace.

To the kind of people who think like this, carrying out a 9/11 style attack is like a walk in the park.

Though FSM chose to delete the article from their website after it started to get bad press, the cache is still available and Atkinson's previous articles betray the fact that he is a real columnist and he really believes this crap!

This is the philosophy guiding the people that are in control of the world's pre-eminent superpower - in comparison, they make Hitler look like the tooth fairy.

They are supported by a transfixed hardcore following of kool-aid drinkers, the kind that openly advocate putting anyone who criticizes Bush in gas chambers while praying for Fox News.

And don't for a second think that they won't try and make all this happen - the Neo-Cons are not playing games, yesterday we reported on the open admission of a plan on behalf of the feds to use clergy to "quell dissent" during a martial law takeoever scenario.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are part of the same crowd and not part of the solution, this is a doctrine that has swallowed the entirety of the political system.

The extreme fringe of the Neo-Con belief system is increasingly attracting more adherents as Bush, Cheney and their warmongering administration becomes increasingly unpopular in the U.S. and faces more opposition in attempting to complete their agenda.

The true horror of what that ultimate agenda entails is the price we as humanity will pay unless we stop these madmen and their goal - a 4th Reich of the elite, the slaughter of millions, and a global totalitarian dictatorship.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-29   13:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TwentyTwelve (#8)

Am I the only one paying attention here while every one else is more interested in the 3 stooges?

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-04-29   13:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, FOH, wudidiz, critter (#9)

Am I the only one paying attention here while every one else is more interested in the 3 stooges?

www.infowars.net/articles/april2007/110407Paul.htm

Presidential Candidate: U.S. In Danger of Dictatorship

Congressman Ron Paul warns elite believe they own us and are "always prepared" to take our liberties

Steve Watson & Alex Jones

Infowars.net

Wednesday, April 11, 2007

Presidential candidate Ron Paul has warned that the US is now at a crisis point because the people have been so neglectful of protecting their liberties and big government has been so effective in eroding them. He warned that the elite are prepared to concoct events to scare the American people and asserted that the 2008 Presidential election is a contest between the people who care about their freedoms and those who are willing to succumb to the temptations of dictatorship.

Congressman Ron Paul joined Alex Jones on air this week for a full hour to discuss his ongoing Presidential campaign and give his views on what he believes the fundamental issues are in America today.

The Congressman gave a candid interview in which he discussed many topics in depth including the economy, foreign policy, the North American Union, the possibility of a draft and the situations in Iraq and Iran.

Known for what many have described as his impeccable voting record, Ron Paul is a champion of individual liberty and a strong campaigner for restoration of a true Constitutionalist form of US government, a trait that has made him a rare and popular candidate amongst people from all across the political spectrum.

When asked what he believes the overriding issue in America today is the Congressman pointed towards the erosion of personal freedoms:

"Probably it's the threat to individual liberty. because our government is growing endlessly by leaps and bounds and nobody seems to want to put a hold on it. every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty."

The Congressman explained that freedom is the underlying issue because the consequences of such erosion of individual liberty have a knock on effect in many different areas. Economically, for example, the country is becoming dependent, less productive and less self sustaining.

"Economically the consequences will be that there's going to be a wholesale rejection of the dollar, because the world has trusted the dollar, especially since the breakdown of the Bretton Woods in 1971, when the linkage of the dollar to gold was broken, they still trusted the dollar as if it were gold, and therefore we can print the money and we can spend the money and foreign countries take our money, then loan it back to us, so they're getting a bum rap." Paul stated.

"They get a temporarily good deal but what it does is encourage us not to be productive, it encourages us not to have manufacturing any longer, we can let others do it cheaper, cheap labour, and then we buy it with cheap money. That is going to come to an end. That means later on there are going to be a lot of changes here. Domestically the interest rates are going to rise, the inflation rate, the price of all goods and services, that will rise, and the economy will weaken, so we have some very serious problems ahead."

Turning to foreign policy the Congressman asserted that his first action if he were to be elected as President would be to start to bring American troops home from all over the world.

"As a Commander in chief you could certainly handle the troops around the world. I would start talking to all our allies and tell them what the plans were and start coming home. We are now spending close to a trillion dollars maintaining our foreign policy. It's a lot bigger than most people realise if you add up the Dod, the supplementals, the interest on the money we spend and taking care of our veterans."

The Congressman made it clear that aggression abroad and America as a world police force has had a disastrous impact upon the very fabric of the country.

"We have turned our own country into isolationists, diplomatically we don't talk to anybody, we have more enemies than we've ever had before and fewer allies, and at the same time our ability to defend this country is being diminished on a daily basis. We worry about borders, all around he world, we worry about borders in Korea, about borders around Iraq, and what do we do with our own borders? Here we don't do anything."

Paul then turned to the issue of the North American Union and made it clear that he believes the plans that have been secretly laid in Washington to merge the US, Mexican and Canadian economies are yet again the fallout from the souring of liberty in America.

We have behind the scenes a plan for a North American Union, that's the part that the American people are starting to wake up to, although we have a long way to go to wake up Washington. It's amazing to me how many people outside of Washington are very much aware of the plans with this North American Union, at the same time they are in total denial in Washington, except for the few behind the scenes who are laying the plans and providing the finances."

Turning to discussion of his Presidential campaign, Ron Paul championed the alternative media and the internet as vital tools in allowing him to get his message across to a multitude of people that never could have been reached before without huge injections of money:

"The internet already has been very helpful and I think it's going to be more helpful as time goes on, and that's something that is becoming more so everyday, ten fifteen years ago it wasn't so significant. The other thing is radio talks shows like what you have are very important. Almost every place I go somebody will come up to me and I'll say 'how did you get involved' and it's through your show. So there are a lot of people who have joined our campaign and have already started to show up at our events because of your encouragement."

Paul emphasized that although the bigger candidates can raise millions of dollars through special interests, a lot of that money is wasted on private jets, huge salaries, advisors, advertising and the like. So there isn't as big a gulf between he and the other candidates as people may think.

The Republican Congressman, who has been dubbed "founding father material", by his supporters has surprised some with his initial success, having gained widespread support from Libertarians, Liberals and Conservatives alike.

He stressed that you have to be in the game to have any chance of winning it, and that this not only applies to his own campaign but more importantly applies also to everyone who wishes to remain free in America.

"Time is running out and we may lose our liberties to the point where we won't have these responses." Paul stated.

"You know there's nothing that guarantees that they will allow you to air your radio show forever. They have already trampled on our rights, they talking about putting people in prison today without Habeas Corpus... If we don't preserve our fundamental freedoms we can't fight back. I'm convinced of one thing, we could all be very very poor tomorrow and have to start from scratch but if we have our freedoms and we have our sound currency and we have the government off our backs, this country would rebound so quickly."

Paul then outlined what he feels that the 2008 Presidential election is all about, and also warned that the elite are prepared to attempt to take the liberty of the people and change the course of history:

"I think they are always prepared and everyday they have more powers than before because under these emergency powers acts, the President now has more authority than ever. And the contest that is really going on in this Presidential election is are there enough of us that care about our freedoms versus those who are willing to succumb to the temptations of dictatorship. Just think of the attitude, what it was like right after 9/11 when they passed the Patriot Act, I said 'you know it's not even available, you can't even read it and we're getting ready to vote' they said 'it doesn't matter, the people want us to do something, this looks like we're doing something, it sounds good, there's no way I'm even gonna question this', so they voted for it. They got their signals from the people. it is true that there are a lot of people who wanted something done, the big question is are there more of them or more of us?" Paul commented.

in further reference to 9/11 the Congressman stated:

"I think freedom's been sliding for a long time and it got a lot worse after 9/11 and I'm always afraid of some concocted event that will scare the American people.... The people in this country need a little bit more reason to go along with the President, but unfortunately our leaders in this country too often have been able to provide the incident that unifies the country behind more militarism."

We implore our readers to listen to the entire interview here and support Ron Paul's campaign. His voting record speaks for itself and he represents a genuine chance to attempt to put things right in America today.

To support Ron Paul you can visit his website at www.RonPaul2008.com, where you can donate online or find out how to donate via other methods.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-29   13:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TwentyTwelve (#10)

Paul then turned to the issue of the North American Union and made it clear that he believes the plans that have been secretly laid in Washington to merge the US, Mexican and Canadian economies are yet again the fallout from the souring of liberty in America.

We have behind the scenes a plan for a North American Union, that's the part that the American people are starting to wake up to, although we have a long way to go to wake up Washington. It's amazing to me how many people outside of Washington are very much aware of the plans with this North American Union, at the same time they are in total denial in Washington, except for the few behind the scenes who are laying the plans and providing the finances."

Short of a violent revolution, it's a done deal...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-29   13:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: FOH (#4)

Amtrak moving jobs out of Beech Grove Amtrak will move 90 employees from its Beech Grove heavy maintenance facility by Aug. via IndyStar.com

www.indystar.com/apps/pbc...INESS/80425038/1003/RSS03

04/25/2008

Amtrak will move 90 employees from its Beech Grove heavy maintenance facility by Aug. 1 to Amtrak shops in Chicago and Wilmington, Del.

The cost-cutting consolidation would reduce employment in the suburban Indianapolis rail center to 475, Amtrak spokesman Marc Magliari said.

Today, Amtrak workers intend to rally Downtown in protest of the move, at the state Capitol building. U.S. Rep. Andre Carson issued a statement saying he and Sen. Evan Bayh have asked Amtrak to reconsider the move.

Magliari said rail service officials have seen the request but have not responded yet.

Beech Grove traces its origin to the construction of the heavy maintenance shop, which was opened in 1908 by the Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago and St. Louis Railway, also known as the Big Four.

angle  posted on  2008-04-29   13:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: FOH (#11)

Short of a violent revolution, it's a done deal...

www.hermes-press.com/militarismindex.htm

Military Dictatorship USA?

By

Dr. Norman D. Livergood

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."

James Madison, while a United States Congressman

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-29   13:36:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#9)

Am I the only one paying attention here while every one else is more interested in the 3 stooges?

www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/index.html

FAKE TERROR - THE ROAD TO DICTATORSHIP

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-29   13:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TwentyTwelve, angle (#13)

By my calculations, maybe 5% of the folks in our nation 'get it' and are worth fighting for...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-29   13:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TwentyTwelve (#13)

Certainly, a few dead would slow down the hubris of the rest.

angle  posted on  2008-04-29   13:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TwentyTwelve (#13)

good link, that last one, tells a lot

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-04-29   13:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0) (Edited)

Does anyone recall RP bringing this (specifically) up during the "debates"?

Whence comes our hope?

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-29   13:46:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: iconoclast (#18)

Does anyone recall RP bringing this (specifically) up during the "debates"?

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TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-29   14:01:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: iconoclast (#18)

Whence comes our hope?

I've never heard of that. Is it important?

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-04-29   14:07:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Right now, the only thing standing between the United States' Constitutional Republic and Bush/Cheney's apparent desire to rule with an iron fist is a lesser event than that of 9/11.

I think they already pulled a coup of sorts, but another BlackOp event could bring Martial law.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-29   14:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#20)

Whence comes our hope?

I've never heard of that. Is it important?

chuckle ;-)

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-29   14:22:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robin (#21)

I think they already pulled a coup of sorts, but another BlackOp event could bring Martial law.

10 False Flags That Changed the World

by Joe Crubaugh

**************************************

10 False Flags that Changed the World

10. Nero, Christians, and the Great Fire of Rome

9. Remember the Maine, to Hell with Spain

8. The Manchurian Incident

7. Secrets of the Reichstag Fire

6. Fake Invasion at Gleiwitz

5. The Myth of Pearl Harbor

4. Israeli Terrorist Cell Uncovered in Egypt

3. U.S.-Sponsored Terrorism: Operation Northwoods

2. Phantoms in the Gulf of Tonkin

{{drumroll}}

NUMBER ONE

The September 11, 2001 Attacks

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TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-29   14:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TwentyTwelve (#19)

RP had what? ... 7,8,9 magnificent opportunities on national TV before large audiences to address this issue directly and specifically.

If he did so, show me when and/or where.

What a great chance, what a debacle of a campaign.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-04-29   14:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TwentyTwelve (#23)

Very good, London Tube and Madrid are not even on that list. Perhaps they are just a continuation of 9/11?

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-29   14:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robin (#25)

London Tube and Madrid are not even on that list. Perhaps they are just a continuation of 9/11?

I would say so.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-04-29   14:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#9)

Am I the only one paying attention here while every one else is more interested in the 3 stooges?

I am.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-29   14:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: FOH (#7)

I believe he's already been crowned GOG...

Eyes to see ... ears to hear !

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

noone222  posted on  2008-04-30   4:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: noone222 (#28)

Another carrier has just arrived in the gulf. Nuking Iran may coincide with the Bush/Cheney coup.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-04-30   4:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Zoroaster (#29)

Another carrier has just arrived in the gulf. Nuking Iran may coincide with the Bush/Cheney coup.

Snickering in the background are the Talmudic Zio-nazi parasites beating the war drums ever aware that an Israeli attack upon Iran will accomplish the same end as an American attack.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

noone222  posted on  2008-04-30   4:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: noone222 (#30)

Snickering in the background are the Talmudic Zio-nazi parasites beating the war drums ever aware that an Israeli attack upon Iran will accomplish the same end as an American attack.

The Zionist-controlled MSM keeps Bush in power. Without that support he would have been driven from the White House long ago.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-04-30   5:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Zoroaster (#31) (Edited)

Without that support he would have been driven from the White House long ago.

Bush is a white spot on a red, white and blue dress X 100,000,000,000 ...

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

noone222  posted on  2008-04-30   5:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: All (#17)

Congressman Denied Access to Martial Law Plan

Bush officials have denied Congressman Peter DeFazio from his duty to review classified White House documents that describe how the Administration plans to conduct the US government if martial law is declared.

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-04-30   16:21:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#33)

Bush officials have denied Congressman Peter DeFazio from his duty to review classified White House documents that describe how the Administration plans to conduct the US government if martial law is declared.

Recourse?


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   16:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All, Congressman Denied Access to Martial Law Plan (#33)

Congressman Denied Access to Martial Law Plan

Bush officials have denied Congressman Peter DeFazio from his duty to review classified White House documents that describe how the Administration plans to conduct the US government if martial law is declared.

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-05-26   12:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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