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Title: In North Carolina, Clinton Closes To Within 5 Of Obama
Source: http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d4d1bc7e-3
URL Source: http://surveyusa.com
Published: Apr 29, 2008
Author: surveyusa.com
Post Date: 2008-04-29 16:22:04 by RickyJ
Keywords: None
Views: 562
Comments: 43

In North Carolina, Clinton Closes To Within 5 Of Obama: In a Democratic Primary in North Carolina today, 04/29/08, one week till votes are counted, the 10-point lead that Barack Obama has had for two months is halved, to now 5 points, Obama 49%, Clinton 44%, according to SurveyUSA's 7th tracking poll, conducted exclusively for WTVD-TV Raleigh. In SurveyUSA last four polls, over the past two months, Obama has led by 10, 8, 10, and 9 points. Today: 5. White voters are key. Since January, Clinton had led among Carolina whites by 14, 19, 17, 22 and 23 points. But today, suddenly: 31. In the Research Triangle, Clinton is up 9 points, week-on-week; Obama is down 3; a net swing of 12 points to Clinton. Among unaffiliated voters, Clinton has overtaken Obama for the first time in 2008, though the difference is small and within the sub-group's margin of sampling error. The two tie among Moderates. Obama leads slightly among Liberals. Clinton leads slightly among Conservatives. There is enough cross-current in the political waters that SurveyUSA's final pre-Primary poll, next week, may show more movement -- though in which direction it is impossible to know.

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#2. To: RickyJ (#0)

Let's hear another round of Wright associating his rhetoric with all Black churches.. that ought to play well before the next primary. Maybe he is helping Hillary. Considering Obama's church of choice for 20 years, it makes me wonder how he made it the Senate in the first place.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-29   16:28:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Considering Obama's church of choice for 20 years, it makes me wonder how he made it the Senate in the first place.

Chicago machine politics. That is how you get into the State House in Illinois.

It just doesn't play at the national level.

mirage  posted on  2008-04-29   16:31:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It's so funny :)

Apparently, the same people who so strongly believed that their Ron Paul was going to grab the stupid GOP nomination and become our president are now into a very intense anti-Obama (mamma) fit, convinced that he would lose, probably because their belief is so intense.

Like in the case of Ron Paul, they are going to be mightily disappointed. Obama is nearly-certain to beat Hillary (check the numbers) and he is very likely to mop the floor with McCain.

But... what the heck. The Prez election are scheduled for November so there's 7-8 months worth of strong emoting ahead. I'm wondering what's after that. Maybe some kind of Iran nuking watch going through Jan. 20 of 2009?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-29   16:39:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Apparently, the same people who so strongly believed that their Ron Paul was going to grab the stupid GOP nomination and become our president are now into a very intense anti-Obama (mamma) fit, convinced that he would lose, probably because their belief is so intense.

You have your analysis backwards.

mirage  posted on  2008-04-29   16:56:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I disagree. :))))))

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-29   16:58:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The rabid Ron Paul people became rabid Obama supporters.

That's how your analysis is backwards.

mirage  posted on  2008-04-29   17:01:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The rabid Ron Paul people became rabid Obama supporters.

That's how your analysis is backwards.

I don't think so.

Some of the formerly irrational 'Paul will win' or 'Paul can win' (the GOP nomination) seem to be present on this very thread.

I, speaking for myself, initially dismissed the Obama candidacy as yet another Negro running to make us all guilty for not giving the Negroes what they so richly deserved. It turns out that I was wrong. Dr. Obama is a well-educated, mentally-balanced person who dedicated much of his life to public service and he seem to even guide himself by moral principles. When compared to the other 2 still in the running, he is clearly superior. He is not the greatest man that ever lived since Jesus Christ but, as a politician, he is way above average.

Oh, I disagree with him on many issues but I agree that either Clinton or McCain are likely to further ruin this country. I don't believe that Obama is going to further ruin it and that is why I hope he gets the job he's seeking.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-29   17:09:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Dr. Obama is a well-educated, mentally-balanced person who dedicated much of his life to public service and he seem to even guide himself by moral principles. When compared to the other 2 still in the running, he is clearly superior. He is not the greatest man that ever lived since Jesus Christ but, as a politician, he is way above average.

Dr. Obama? Just when did he earn a PhD? A JD does not make one a "Doctor".

If Obama is so superior, then how can he possibly have such abysmally poor judgment in so many ways?

You've been hoodwinked. You've been had. You've been took. You've been led astray, run amuck, flim-flammed. You've been bamboozled.

As for Paul, well, would have been nice, but most of the realists (like yours truly) understood that the best he could have done is to come in somewhere in the top three. Mostly, yours truly supported him to try and change the tone of the race, which he had a small effect on.

mirage  posted on  2008-04-29   17:18:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I made Dr. Obama a Dr. It's like some guy from the Limbo show nominating Dr. Rush for the Nobel peace prize.

If a cosmetologist like Dr. Savage can call himself a Dr., then I insist in making Dr. Obama a Dr.

As for Obama being 'so superior', I stated quite clearly that he is a superior person among politicians. The fact that he is making political mistakes while politicking is not a bad thing in my view. We should be afraid of scripted empty suits not of imperfect but sane men of substance.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-29   17:23:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If a cosmetologist like Dr. Savage can call himself a Dr., then I insist in making Dr. Obama a Dr.

Savage actually has a sheepskin that says "PhD" on it from US Berkeley and thus, he legitimately lays claim to the title having earned it.

We should be afraid of scripted empty suits not of imperfect but sane men of substance.

This is precisely why I cannot support Obama; he is, as I see it, an empty suit and devoid of actual character.

The fact that he stayed in the church for 20 years full-well knowing what was going on there, the fact his wife is a angry racist, the fact that he can't speak off the cuff - the fact that he cannot just come clean on anything -- he is an empty suit and devoid of actual character.

Indeed, his books show him to be a racist at his core. While he may have moved past it recently, he had not when he produced his writing.

The "I can no more disavow Rev. Wright than I can my own grandmother or the black community" has been shown up and indeed is currently being disavowed by Obama.

He is learning that 'moral equivalence' which is what his prior 'Major Speech on Race' was all about doesn't play.

But for the office of President, we don't need someone who is still learning lessons they should have gotten in high school.

Obama is not yet ready. Give him another 8 years at a minimum and then he should have taken enough arrows and learned from the experience well enough to be ready for prime time. He just isn't ready right now.

mirage  posted on  2008-04-29   17:31:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#26. To: mirage (#24)

The fact that he stayed in the church for 20 years full-well knowing what was going on there, the fact his wife is a angry racist, the fact that he can't speak off the cuff - the fact that he cannot just come clean on anything -- he is an empty suit and devoid of actual character.

Very little of what you enumerate is 'facts'. It seems like you are trying to build some straw man so that you can knock it down.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-04-29 17:43:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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