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Title: FLDS teen gives birth to boy while Texas officials stand by
Source: AP ONLINE
URL Source: http://www.amatechtel.com/news/wed/bc/Ayb116908923.RkNT_IMT.asp
Published: Apr 30, 2008
Author: MICHELLE ROBERTS
Post Date: 2008-04-30 05:09:34 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 144
Comments: 5

SAN MARCOS, Texas - Child welfare officials who have taken hundreds of young polygamist-sect members into state custody have yet another child to place: One of the teens has given birth to a boy.

"The boy is healthy and the mother is doing well," Patrick Crimmins, spokesman for the state Child Protective Services, said of the birth Tuesday at Central Texas Medical Center.

The mother is "younger than 18" and will remain with her son in a nearby foster care facility until a formal custody hearing will determine the pair's fate sometime before June 5, Crimmins said. He declined to give any other details about the teen or where she and the baby would stay.

The teen's mother was present for the birth, but Crimmins said he didn't know who alerted her that her daughter was in labor.

Rod Parker, a spokesman for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a renegade Mormon sect, contends the teen is 18. Texas officials have the girl on a list of minors taken into state custody.

Two armed state troopers and at least one person wearing the shirt of a Department of Family and Protective Services worker stood outside the maternity ward Tuesday. A woman wearing the FLDS's trademark pastel prairie dress and upswept braided hair sat calmly in the nearby waiting room. All declined to comment, as did a woman who said she was the girl's attorney.

State officials raided the FLDS's Yearning For Zion Ranch in Eldorado on April 3 amid an abuse investigation. They took custody of 463 children, saying the sect's practice of underage and polygamous spiritual marriages endangered the children.

A number of girls first listed as adults were reclassified as minors as Child Protective Services, a division of Family and Protective Services, moved the children last week from a mass shelter in San Angelo to foster care facilities around the state, including some near San Marcos, in central Texas.

CPS spokesman Darrell Azar said he was unaware an FLDS teen had gone into labor, but added that typically, a child born to a ward of the state becomes a ward of the state also.

Tela Mange, a spokeswoman for the Department of Public Safety, said CPS often asks uniformed law enforcement to escort child welfare workers when needed.

On Monday, CPS announced that almost 60 percent of the underage girls living on the Eldorado ranch either have children or are pregnant.

Of the 53 girls between the ages of 14 and 17 who are in state custody, 31 either have given birth or were expecting, Azar said.

Under Texas law, children under the age of 17 generally cannot consent to sex with an adult. A girl can get married with parental permission at 16, but none of the sect's girls is believed to have a legal marriage under state law.

Church officials have denied that any children were abused at the ranch and say the state's actions are a form of religious persecution. They also dispute the count of teen mothers, saying at least some are likely adults.

All the children are supposed to get individual hearings before June 5 to help determine if they'll stay in state custody or if their parents may be able to take steps to regain custody. The first hearings have been set for May 19.

No one has been charged since the raid, which was prompted by a series of calls to a domestic abuse hot line, purportedly from a 16-year-old girl forced into a marriage recognized only by the sect with a man three times her age. That girl has not been found and authorities are investigating whether the call was a hoax.


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No one has been charged since the raid, which was prompted by a series of calls to a domestic abuse hot line, purportedly from a 16-year-old girl forced into a marriage recognized only by the sect with a man three times her age. That girl has not been found and authorities are investigating whether the call was a hoax.

Belongs in the "YOU GOTTA BE SHITTIN ME" file.

Seems like the journalists aren't being given the specific circumstances related to the pregnant "teens" exact ages. Could it be that they are of legal age ? And if some are under age does CPS incarcerate all of the under age teens having babies these days ?

Equal protection under the law applies even to 14th Amendment citizens.

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#1. To: noone222 (#0)

on the national news of the radio they said 'all of the teen girls are pregnant'. and I see this article above contradicts that, so somebody lied.

What NoOne said is correct, that teen girls are not normally incarcerated for being pregnant. the government has already shown a strong propensity to lie in this case. example - the original call from the alleged 16-year old girl we've read was really from colorado. I'm sorry, phone calls can be traced. You should at least do that to confirm where it came from before a week-long raid that takes 439 children. so the government has a large propensity to lie in this case and we can't think they're truthful in this either, likely a lot of these 'teens' are 18 or older.

In defense of FLDS I'll say that they themselves have in the past imposed on themselves minimum ages for marriage. I've been told that prior to Warren jeffs taking over the group about 7 years ago the minimum ages were 18, or 20 or 22. But the Americans love to demonize at the prompting of their televisions. It is a national sport, and as we know a sport that is not conducive towards freedom.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-04-30   8:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Red Jones (#1)

What NoOne said is correct, that teen girls are not normally incarcerated for being pregnant.

Thanks Red, hows about them Spurs !!!

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noone222  posted on  2008-04-30   9:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#2)

Spurs are a good team.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-04-30   9:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#0)

I didn't know it was illegal to be pregnant and under 18.

Who says we don't live in a Nazi Police State? Half the projects are full of unwed minor moms. I don't see CPS raiding all of S Dallas and stealing women's children.

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-04-30   10:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222, *Jack-Booted Thugs* (#0)

will remain with her son

oh isn't that nice? She gets to remain with her baby.

How much longer is this attack against these families going to last?

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robin  posted on  2008-04-30   10:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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