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Title: A Bill to Criminalize Thoughts, Blogs, Books and Free Speech Across America (HR 1955)
Source: takebackwashington
URL Source: http://www.takebackwashington.com/
Published: Apr 30, 2008
Author: takebackwashington
Post Date: 2008-04-30 06:37:41 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 301
Comments: 15

A Bill to Criminalize Thoughts, Blogs, Books and Free Speech Across America (HR 1955)

The end of Free Speech in America has arrived at our doorstep. It's a new law called the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, and it is worded in a clever way that could allow the U.S. government to arrest and incarcerate any individual who speaks out against the Bush Administration, the war on Iraq, the Department of Homeland Security or any government agency (including the FDA). The law has already passed the House on a traitorous vote of 405 to 6, and it is now being considered in the Senate where a vote is imminent. Full Story www.naturalnews.com/022308.html

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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

No comments?

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-04-30   9:26:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IndieTX (#1)

Nice pic ... where's Bush' et al., head ?

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.

Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

noone222  posted on  2008-04-30   9:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Why wouldn't they pass this bill? The war on terrorism, afterall, is a war against the individual.

It's a dirty job but somebody better do it.

angle  posted on  2008-04-30   9:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

you notice that NONE of the presidential candidates are talking about this.

christine  posted on  2008-04-30   9:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#4)

you notice that NONE of the presidential candidates are talking about this.

this bill is not on the circus agenda. Reverend Wright is on the circus agenda. Trained monkeys stick to the agenda.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-04-30   9:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#4)

you notice that NONE of the presidential candidates are talking about this.

Ron Paul Remarks on HR 1955

http://www.house.gov/paul...

Before the House of Representatives, December 5, 2007

Remarks on Violent Radicalization & Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, HR 1955

by Ron Paul

Mr. Speaker, I regret that I was unavoidably out of town on October 23, 2007, when a vote was taken on HR 1955, the Violent Radicalization & Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act. Had I been able to vote, I would have voted against this misguided and dangerous piece of legislation. This legislation focuses the weight of the US government inward toward its own citizens under the guise of protecting us against "violent radicalization."

I would like to note that this legislation was brought to the floor for a vote under suspension of regular order. These so-called "suspension" bills are meant to be non-controversial, thereby negating the need for the more complete and open debate allowed under regular order. It is difficult for me to believe that none of my colleagues in Congress view HR 1955, with its troubling civil liberties implications, as "non-controversial."

There are many causes for concern in HR 1955. The legislation specifically singles out the Internet for "facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process" in the United States. Such language may well be the first step toward US government regulation of what we are allowed to access on the Internet. Are we, for our own good, to be subjected to the kind of governmental control of the Internet that we see in unfree societies? This bill certainly sets us on that course.

This seems to be an unwise and dangerous solution in search of a real problem. Previous acts of ideologically motivated violence, though rare, have been resolved successfully using law enforcement techniques, existing laws against violence, and our court system. Even if there were a surge of "violent radicalization" – a claim for which there is no evidence – there is no reason to believe that our criminal justice system is so flawed and weak as to be incapable of trying and punishing those who perpetrate violent acts.

This legislation will set up a new government bureaucracy to monitor and further study the as-yet undemonstrated pressing problem of homegrown terrorism and radicalization. It will no doubt prove to be another bureaucracy that artificially inflates problems so as to guarantee its future existence and funding. But it may do so at great further expense to our civil liberties. What disturbs me most about this legislation is that it leaves the door wide open for the broadest definition of what constitutes "radicalization." Could otherwise nonviolent anti-tax, anti-war, or anti-abortion groups fall under the watchful eye of this new government commission? Assurances otherwise in this legislation are unconvincing.

In addition, this legislation will create a Department of Homeland Security-established university-based body to further study radicalization and to "contribute to the establishment of training, written materials, information, analytical assistance and professional resources to aid in combating violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism." I wonder whether this is really a legitimate role for institutes of higher learning in a free society.

Legislation such as this demands heavy-handed governmental action against American citizens where no crime has been committed. It is yet another attack on our Constitutionally protected civil liberties. It is my sincere hope that we will reject such approaches to security, which will fail at their stated goal at a great cost to our way of life.

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   9:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: FOH (#6) (Edited)

Pretty good proof that a lone Ron Paul in Congress is pretty worthless compared to a Ron Paul leading the United States as President. Perhaps McCracked will have a temper tantrum which leads to a stroke before the convention.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-04-30   9:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FOH (#6)

i think we all need to start praying hard for the demise of the current GOP frontrunner.

christine  posted on  2008-04-30   9:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: IndieTX (#7)

Great Minds Think Alike

christine  posted on  2008-04-30   9:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#8)

holy cow...great minds and all...simuls..LOL

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-04-30   9:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: IndieTX (#7)

Pretty good proof that a lone Ron Paul in Congress is pretty worthless compared to a Ron Paul leading the United States as President.

I'm now completely mixed on the issue of this campaign, having witnessed first hand the impact that Ron Paul supporters are having on the nearly defunct pubbie wing of the Council on Foreign Relations' National Globalist Party at State conventions...=)


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   9:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#8)

i think we all need to start praying hard for the demise of the current GOP frontrunner.

I'm praying for Ron Paul to continue to orchestrate massive GOP bed wetting and outfront fascism at the remaining pubbie State conventions, then tell them to go hose themselves on national TeeBee here in MN at the national pubbie convention, followed by replacing Chuck Baldwin's current VP candidate on the Constitution Party ticket for POTUS...ahaha


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   9:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: IndieTX, christine (#10)

John McCain Is A Liberal Gun Grabber


by Chuck Baldwin
February 22, 2008



The last thing we need is another liberal neocon in the White House. If the Presidency of George W. Bush proved anything, it proved the hazard of electing phony Republican conservatives. At least one is able to clearly see a liberal for what he or she is when they have a "D" behind their name. But put an "R" behind the name and suddenly their liberal, Big-Government, anti-freedom agenda is barely recognized, which makes a liberal Republican much more dangerous than a liberal Democrat.

Let me say it straight out: a John McCain Presidency would be far worse than a Barack Obama Presidency. With a Democrat in the White House, conservatives and Christians suddenly find their principles and are able to offer resistance. Put a Republican in the Oval Office, however, and those same people become blind, deaf, and dumb to most any principle they profess.

Nowhere is McCain's chicanery and duplicity more jeopardous than in the area of the right to keep and bear arms. On issues relating to the Second Amendment, John McCain is a disaster! For example, the highly respected Gun Owners of America (GOA) rates McCain with a grade of F-. McCain's failing grade is well deserved.

John McCain sponsored an amendment to S. 1805 on March 2, 2004 that would outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows. According to GOA, the provision would effectively eliminate gun shows, because every member of an organization sponsoring a gun show could be imprisoned if the organization fails to notify each and every "person who attends the special firearms event of the requirements [under the Brady Law]."

John McCain also sponsored an Incumbent Protection provision to the so-called "Campaign Finance Reform" bill, which severely curtails the ability of outside groups (such as GOA) to communicate the actions of incumbent politicians to members and supporters prior to an election.

The GOA report of the 106th Congress reveals that out of 15 votes relating to the right to keep and bear arms, Senator John McCain voted favorably only 4 times. Put that into a percentage and McCain's pro-Second Amendment voting record is a pathetic 27%.

In addition, GOA warns that John McCain supported legislation that would force federal agents to increase efforts in arresting and convicting honest gun owners who may inadvertently violate one of the many federal anti-gun laws, which punish mere technicalities, such as gun possession.

For example, if John McCain's proposed legislation were to become law, a gun owner who travels with a gun through a school zone or who uses one of the family handguns to go target shooting with a 15-year old could be sent to prison. And a person who uses a gun for self-defense could be sent to prison for a mandatory minimum of five years.

But there is so much more to the McCain madness.

Former California State Senator H.L. "Bill" Richardson wrote this about John McCain, "He's [McCain's] proven his dislike for conservatives and would gut us at every opportunity.

"Why do I say that? Because of three decades of experience as a Republican California Senator and a fifty year activist in the conservative movement. I have first hand, in-their-face experience with elitist RINO's (Republican in Name Only) office holders. They are biblically ignorant, power hungry, status seeking egotists who have no difficulty aiding their liberal Democrat colleagues whenever their arms are politely twisted. The one thing they have in common with liberal Democrats is their dislike for all conservatives, especially those who are Bible-believing. McCain, as president, would stifle the voices of elected Republican leaders and try to legislate the conservative movement out of existence."

Senator Richardson went on to say that he would in no way vote for John McCain, if indeed McCain is the Republican nominee (which he obviously will be).

I wonder how many gun owners and other professing pro-freedom Americans have already fallen victim to McCain's phony conservative campaign? Do they not realize that they are giving a rope to the hangman? And that they--conservatives and gun owners--are the ones who McCain will send to the gallows? What is wrong with the American people these days? Have they not been betrayed enough by these phony conservative Republicans?

For example, President George W. Bush recently nominated Michael Sullivan to be Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Sullivan is one of the nation's most rabid anti-gunners. GOA's Larry Pratt describes Sullivan as being "as anti-gun as Ted Kennedy." Honest gun owners, lawful firearms dealers, and law-abiding gun show operators could have no worse enemy within the federal government than Michael Sullivan. We could expect no worse from Hillary Clinton. And a John McCain Presidency would doubtless give us more of the same.

Regarding the Second Amendment, the American people have no better friend than Ron Paul. He has a 20-year proven track record of fidelity to the right to keep and bear arms. The GOA rates Congressman Paul with a grade of A+. According to GOA Executive Director Larry Pratt, Ron Paul has been a leader in the fight to defend and restore the Second Amendment. He has sponsored legislation to repeal the following: the Brady law; the requirement to lock up your guns; the law permitting the U.S. to be part of the U.N (which, among other attacks on American freedoms, seeks to ban privately transferred firearms); participation in UNESCO; federal prohibitions on any pilot wishing to carry a handgun to and in his cockpit; and the so-called "assault weapons" ban (prior to its sunsetting in 2004).

Ron Paul has also sponsored legislation requiring states to treat the concealed carry permit of one state the same as they do that state's driver's license. Dr. Paul also opposes a national ID card, which would be a tool of government to identify gun ownership.

Gun owners (along with conservatives and Christians of all sorts) should be ashamed of themselves for allowing an angry, gun-grabbing liberal such as John McCain to become the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee, while rejecting the candidacy of one of America's most principled pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, pro-Constitution, and pro-freedom legislators of this generation: Congressman Ron Paul.

I say again, the last thing we need is another liberal neocon in the White House. John McCain may have an "R" behind his name, but he is just another establishment liberal: one America cannot afford.

Juan McTraitor isn't looking so healthy these days, is he?


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   10:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0) (Edited)

A Bill to Criminalize Thoughts, Blogs, ***Books*** and Free Speech Across America (HR 1955).......it is worded in a clever way that could allow the U.S. government to arrest and incarcerate any individual who speaks out against the Bush Administration, the war on Iraq, the Department of Homeland Security or any government agency (including the FDA).

US Government, Talmud Mock New Testament By Rev. Ted Pike 4-17-8

The U.S. State Dept.'s Office of Global Anti-Semitism now says the New Testament is a book of conspiracy theory! Yes, our government now rules that the Biblical record that Jews had Christ crucified is not only anti-Semitic; it's conspiracy junk. This step toward criminalization of Christian beliefs directly threatens believers. It is also an act of blatant hypocrisy: While the New Testament is derided as "hate speech," not a word is said about the seething hatred contained in Judaism's most sacred book, the Talmud....

now our State Department says the New Testament account of Christ's passion, culminating in rejection by the Jewish people and crucifixion by the Romans, is akin to the other conspiracy theories that inspired Hitler to attempt to destroy Jews. My previous article, "Bible is Hate, Says U.S. Government," documents the State Department's other charge: that the New Testament espouses "classic anti-Semitism." 2....."

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re....cgi?ArtNum=78366&Disp=65

4um: NOW THE GOVERNMENT CAN LEGALLY KILL CHRISTIANS Bill Dannemeyer U.S. Congressman, 1979-1992

Your U.S. government can now legally kill Christians for the “crime” of worshipping Jesus Christ! A diabolic deception has been perpetrated on the American people by their OWN leaders, Senators and Congressmen, who have sold their soul to the devil. On March 5, 1991, in the House of Representatives, and March 7, 1991, in the U.S. Senate, without any knowledge of, or input by, the people of the United States, U.S. Senators and Congressmen passed a law that is so outrageous – and frankly unconstitutional – that it forces the American people to be bound by a set of monstrous rules, called the Noahide Laws, rules that make the belief in Jesus Christ a crime punishable by decapitation by guillotine! On March 20, 1991, President George H.W. Bush, a supposed Christian, signed the bill into law. ...." www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=70165

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-30   13:51:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#14)

"....Looking just above the eagles [Ezekiel 17:7-10; (see also God's/Jesus Christ's eagle: Ezekiel 17:1-6/John 15:1/Matthew 15:13)] head you will see 13 pentagrams within a cloud. The pentagrams are arranged in the shape of a hexagram - or greater Seal of Solomon. The hexagram is a powerful tool used by pagans and sorcerers to invoke Satan. It is also the sign of Anti Christ with 6 points, 6 angles and 6 planes ( 666). )...."

(Symbolism on CorpUSA's $1 bill) http://www.gemworld.com/us-symbol-1dol.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-04-30   14:02:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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