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Title: Daily Kos: 'Uncle Tom' Obama
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URL Source: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art ... 787_Daily_Kos-_Uncle_Tom_Obama
Published: Apr 30, 2008
Author: lgf / Kaos237
Post Date: 2008-04-30 09:51:32 by Peppa
Ping List: *Obama Reality Check*     Subscribe to *Obama Reality Check*
Keywords: Obama
Views: 430
Comments: 37

Barack Obama’s repudiation of Jeremiah Wright didn’t go over well with many of the Kos Kids.

To say the least. Daily Kos: “Uncle Tom” Obama.

Daily Kos: “Uncle Tom” Obama

I have been a huge supporter of Barack. He is the guy I’ve been behind for quite awhile now. Check my older diaries if you wonder about that. And while I’ve been steeling myself for a Barack loss in November, because I think the Repug machine is too good for him to beat, I had resigned myself to still working hard for him and for the Progressive cause!

But today something changed for me...

Today, the scales fell from my eyes and I saw Barack Obama for what he truly is: a weak man and a standard politician. I really never thought I would say this...

But I am disgusted with him! Subscribe to *Obama Reality Check*

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#1. To: Peppa, all (#0)

Today, the scales fell from my eyes and I saw Barack Obama for what he truly is: a weak man and a standard politician. I really never thought I would say this...

So the Krud at Kos have an issue w/Obama tossing that animated, racist swine under the bus? Maybe they should take a lesson from the Os here and simply adjust positions on the fly? Yesterday morning they were defending that dispenser of Black Racist Theology, and by mid afternoon, they, with Obama, were dancing on his bones. All this becomes easy when you dump your core values.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-30   10:00:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

Not correct JT. We saw the political expediency of Obama distancing himself still further from the outspoken Reverend Wright. We still defended Wright; most recently in his speech to the NCAAP on different learning styles.

When Dr. Ron Paul did not publicly stand behind 9/11 many were disappointed, but understood why he did not. This is similar in terms of playing politics.

I'm sure Rev. Wright is fully aware and also understands. In fact, yesterday gave Obama another opportunity to widen the gap between them. Although I imagine the media intended more coverage of Rev. Wright to further harm Obama, I believe his response negated any real impact.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-30   10:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Peppa (#0)

"Kingfish" Sharpton.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-04-30   10:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Peppa (#0)

But I am disgusted with him!

Another Liberal useful idiot lackey of the Establishment awakens?

BTW, tell CJ at lgf that he's a f$%@tard for me if you would...heheheh


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   10:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#2)

Just punt robin. Maybe someday the whole 4um will forget you ever Oshilled...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   10:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: MUDDOG (#3)

There was an article yesterday about the Rev. Sharpton attacking Obama, because "Barack Obama made a call for nonviolence in the aftermath of the Sean Bell verdict".

Now Sharpton Attacks Obama

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-30   10:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#2)

Come on Robin the Rev Wright thing will be Obamas undoing it is clear to anyone paying attention that he did know of Wrights many comments and Black Leberation bent that would cause him problems if it ever came to light....from a article today over at CBS

Some of Wright’s remarks that sparked this mess were made over five years ago, specifically his oft-played comment that the nation’s “chickens” were “coming home to roost,” which he made shortly after 9/11. Obama has indicated Wright was instrumental in attracting him to the church he joined and has said he titled his book, “The Audacity of Hope,” after one of Wright’s sermons. That 20-year relationship will not be easily broken as a result of one afternoon press conference.

“What I think particularly angered me,” Obama said of Wright on Monday, “was his suggestion somehow that my previous denunciation of his remarks were somehow political posturing."

In a New York Times profile of the Obama-Wright relationship in April 2007, Wright himself predicted such a split based on the controversial remarks that were already under some scrutiny. “If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Wright told the paper over a year ago. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.”

Whether Obama’s strong words of denunciation today were sincere or “political posturing” will be decided by the remaining Democratic primary voters, the party’s superdelegates...AKA the Jewish Lobby...I added that!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2...html?source=mostpop_story

robnoel  posted on  2008-04-30   10:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robnoel (#7)

Prepare to be called a racist and/or false flag 'ziobot'...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   10:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: FOH (#8)

Quoting from CBS makes me a racist?.....well I have been called that for less now I think about it!

robnoel  posted on  2008-04-30   10:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robnoel (#9)

Quoting from CBS makes me a racist?.....well I have been called that for less now I think about it!

heheheh


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   10:25:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

So the Krud at Kos have an issue w/Obama tossing that animated, racist swine under the bus? Maybe they should take a lesson from the Os here and simply adjust positions on the fly? Yesterday morning they were defending that dispenser of Black Racist Theology, and by mid afternoon, they, with Obama, were dancing on his bones. All this becomes easy when you dump your core values.

Man, you said it.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-30   10:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robnoel (#7)

the nation’s “chickens” were “coming home to roost,” which he made shortly after 9/11.

Good grief! Dr. Ron Paul said almost the same thing in his "blowback" comment! And he was ridiculed for it.

Rev. Wright is not the problem. The media's constant refrains repeating some sound bites over and over are the problem and totally unfair. Red Jones posted an article about "The Fellowship" that Hillary belongs to. They sound really creepy but the media says not a word. McCain has the backing of Hagee, but the media is not making noise about Hagee (and he's nuts!).

Yes, Rev. Wright is aware and understands no doubt, exactly why Obama has been forced to make more statements against him.

And as I mentioned, Dr. Ron Paul never disagreed with the findings of the 9/11 commission, although almost everyone who supports him are 9/11 Truthers. That was pure politics, IMO.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-30   10:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: MUDDOG (#3)

"Kingfish" Sharpton.

This is getting weird, isn't it?

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-30   10:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FOH (#4)

Another Liberal useful idiot lackey of the Establishment awakens?

One at-a-timin' is okay.

BTW, tell CJ at lgf that he's a f$%@tard for me if you would...heheheh

Don't know him........

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-30   10:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Peppa (#14)

CJ = Charles Johnson = Major League Dbag


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   10:37:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FOH (#15)

CJ = Charles Johnson = Major League Dbag

Ooooooh. Well, we never run out of them.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-30   10:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Peppa (#16)

He led the white supremacist smear campaign against Ron Paul...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   10:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#12)

Robin you are mixing apples and oranges its got nothing to do with statements made by Wright rather it is his Black Nationalist beliefs that the oppressed must rise up and kill the oppressors his church preachers the here and now as opposed the here after...which up and until now Obama knew and supported to try and run from that shows a lack of integrity and honesty two body blows he won't recover from

robnoel  posted on  2008-04-30   10:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FOH (#17)

He led the white supremacist smear campaign against Ron Paul...

Well well, he's had some diciples here.

Peppa  posted on  2008-04-30   10:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: robnoel (#7)

www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerPage.jhtml

Note: Paul isn't included.

It's a dirty job but somebody better do it.

angle  posted on  2008-04-30   10:47:59 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: robnoel (#18)

I do not believe Obama ever believed in or supported any kind of violence. For that matter, the Rev. Wright has never made any such statements. You found someone that Wright knew who made such statements. And if we were to examine not just the associates, but the associates of associates of the Clintons and McCains we would find plenty more to worry us.

There was an article yesterday about the Rev. Sharpton attacking Obama, because "Barack Obama made a call for nonviolence in the aftermath of the Sean Bell verdict".

Now Sharpton Attacks Obama

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-04-30   10:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: robnoel (#18)

oppressed must rise up and kill the oppressors

to try and run from that shows a lack of integrity

Wright should identify "oppressors". Maybe that would help Obaba.

It's a dirty job but somebody better do it.

angle  posted on  2008-04-30   10:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: angle (#22)

You are not the first person to ask the same question

Reverend Wright Please Explain

By Joseph - April 28, 2008, 7:24PM

It seems that (at least in the mind of Reverend Jeremiah Wright) Black Liberation Theology, the truth as he and his church see it, attempts to free African Americans from the historical chains of their oppressors. Putting aside what that mindset says about the victim-status of slave descendents (a huge sociological debate that is healthy and valuable) who does that theology define as the oppressors? I grew up in the Midwest in a lower-middle class working family, but all my Grandparents immigrated in the 30's from Ireland and Germany. No ancestor of mine -- that I'm aware of -- had any role in the slave trade. I've been lucky to get a good education and in one brief generation seem to have escaped whatever limitations our lower-income upbringing put on me.

tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo...wright-please-explain.php

robnoel  posted on  2008-04-30   11:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: robnoel (#23)

Identifying the correct oppressors might be an advantage for the Obaba campaign.

It's a dirty job but somebody better do it.

angle  posted on  2008-04-30   11:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: angle (#24)

He had a opportunity yesterday and blew it

QUESTION: Reverend Wright said it was not an attack on him, but an attack on the black church. First of all, do you agree with that? And second of all, the strain of theology that he preached — black liberation theology — explain something about the anger that seems to be some of the sentiments in the church in (inaudible). How important a strain, then, is liberation theology in the black church? And why did you choose to enter the church then?

OBAMA: Well, first of all, in terms of liberation theology, I am not a theologian. So I think to some theologians there might be some well worked out theory of what constitutes liberation theology versus non-liberation theology.

I went to church and listened to sermons. And in the sermons that I heard — and this is true, I do think, across the board in many black churches — there is an emphasis on the importance of social struggle, the importance of striving for equality and justice and fairness, a social gospel.

So I think a lot of people, rather than using a fancy word like that, simply talk about preaching the social gospel. And there’s nothing particularly odd about that. Dr. King, obviously, was the most prominent example of that kind of preaching.

But what I do think can happen — and I didn’t see this as a member of the church, but I saw it yesterday — is when you start focusing so much on the plight of the historically oppressed that you lose sight of what we have in common, that it overrides everything else, that we’re not concerned about the struggles of others, because we’re looking at things only through a particular lens, then it doesn’t describe properly what I believe in the power of faith to overcome, but also to bring people together.

elections.foxnews.com/200...rence-on-jeremiah-wright/

robnoel  posted on  2008-04-30   11:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robnoel (#25)

That was quite a spin job BHO !


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   11:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

JT - Robin and the other "Messiah Obama" followers just cannot accept a few basic truths about the Universe.

First, that Political Correctness has infected everything, including Robin's mind. There are things that don't fly with the electorate, even if they are true, so a politician has to find a way to work around that.

Second, the 98% of the population that doesn't believe in Black Nationalism is not going to vote for a Black Nationalist IF that candidate can be tarred as such UNLESS they have some guilt in the back of their heads that is coming out. Nobody votes to enslave themselves unless they are manipulated into it somehow.

Third, in terms of Wright and his "learning" and other comments, Wright is breaking 50+ years of NAACP propaganda which has been drilled into everyone's heads. To be honest, Wright is using old Southern Slaveowner and Segregationalist rhetoric and arguments. Personally, I find this amazingly stupid - undoing what they have been pushing for, but, they are welcome to do so if they so choose.

Put it all together and you have a candidate who is tone-deaf to everything outside his private universe who is named Obama but who is just now waking up to realize this. Thus, you have the KOS kiddies whining as they are.

Unfortunately, the Obamanation folks are "true believers" and follow Obama like he is Jim Jones preaching about the second coming and asking for a second cup of the Kool-Aid. But when the Reverend Obama changes his tune to a slightly different key, they go insane because whatever it was that was scratching their backs isn't scratching that particular itch any longer.

Its just not worth trying to even discuss things with said Obamanation Religious Fanatics. Just let them lose and try and help them through it once it is all said and done. These folks are desperate for something to believe in so they are taking Obama and swooning, warts and all, and refuse to see what is going on even when it is in plain sight.

Personally, I blame this phenomenon on the Bush Administration who has so angered a portion of the American Public that they are desperate for deliverance, no matter the cost in terms of their personal integrity, intelligence, or common sense.

Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.

mirage  posted on  2008-04-30   13:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mirage (#27) (Edited)

robin may not be, but ari plus other Obamacons are dyed in the wool Socialists/Communists using this racist as cover to elect (by actually believe elections are real) a Marxist/Communist/Socialist that is more acceptable to them than another Clinton Stalinist Fascist...socialized Government healthcare and the UN are a couple of their pets. White guilt is an ingrained fact of life for these multiculturist political correctors...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   13:37:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mirage (#27)

Personally, I blame this phenomenon on the Bush Administration who has so angered a portion of the American Public that they are desperate for deliverance, no matter the cost in terms of their personal integrity, intelligence, or common sense.

"Don't call on the wolves to save you from the dogs. In the end they will devour you both." - Old Russian Saying.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-04-30   13:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: robnoel (#25)

there is an emphasis on the importance of social struggle, the importance of striving for equality and justice and fairness, a social gospel

That's not the historical Social Gospel. That's Liberation Theology, though, lately, the two have been blurred.

A little history: Liberation Theology, like most crazy theories including Dispensationalism, started in the Catholic Church.

Fortunately, the Catholic Church tends to abandon these "innovations" fairly quickly, but they hang around for a long time.

Pope John Paul II declared Liberation Theology a heresy and excommunicated a number of Latin American bishops and priests who refused to cease preaching Liberation Theology and return to the Standard Gospel. Liberation Theology is verboten in the Catholic Church now as an 'official' teaching, though, as with all things Catholic, laymen are free to explore it if they so choose since the declaration did not come ex-cathedra.

Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.

mirage  posted on  2008-04-30   13:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: FOH (#28)

From what I've seen here on 4um and out in the real world, there is a desperation for a savior. Some of the Paul supporters got a little crazy with that and then turned into rabid Obamacons.

I use the term "Obamanation" because it sounds like "abomination" which is about true given the level of fanatacism one sees.

People go looking for a savior when they don't feel they have any control and/or are unwilling or unable to do the work themselves. The unfortunate thing is that often times, they are disappointed. Even Christ himself did not live up to what the Jews thought their messiah would be. Obama cannot live up to expectations either and so there will be much disappointment and wandering of the deserts.

Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.

mirage  posted on  2008-04-30   13:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mirage, Post of the week nomination here (#27)

Your #27 is a keeper. I'm not going to spoil it by attempting to add anything. It's all there for anyone w/an open mind to read. Thank-you for elevating this discussion above the slimy level of Party politics (who in their right mind could belong to a Party today?).

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-30   13:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#32)

Thank-you for elevating this discussion above the slimy level of Party politics

You're very much welcome.

That's just how I see it and I throw it out for discussion purposes. It is entirely possible I could be wrong and welcome dissenting viewpoints.

Elect anyone but Obama, Clinton, or McCain.

mirage  posted on  2008-04-30   14:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mirage (#31)

I use the term "Obamanation" because it sounds like "abomination" which is about true given the level of fanatacism one sees.

I like that.

Funny how anti-Establishment (supposedly) folks could fall for this tripe...a racist...most Lieberal Senaturd...lackey.


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   14:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#32)

(who in their right mind could belong to a Party today?)

As I stare at my Constitution Party membership paperwork...LOLOL

I might just stay Independent.


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   14:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: FOH (#35)

I should have qualified my Party comment to either branch of the National Party (an R or D). I think we need 3rd, 4th and 5th smaller, independent political parties like the Constitution Party.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-04-30   14:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jethro Tull, noone222 (#36)

I think we need 3rd, 4th and 5th smaller, independent political parties like the Constitution Party.

NEWSFLASH: The 4um ziopolice have condemned the Constitution Party as pro-Jew symps...


FOH  posted on  2008-04-30   14:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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