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Published: Apr 1, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-05-01 03:45:47 by X-15
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Red Republicans and Lincoln’s Marxists: Marxism in the Civil War, Walter D. Kennedy and Al Benson, Jr., iUniverse Press, Lincoln, Nebraska, 2007. Beginning in the mid-1990’s I gave a number of talks about Southern history. Part of my monologue was devoted to the role of the 48ers: those veterans of the 1848 Marxist uprisings in Europe, and how they effected the politics of Missouri during the War Between the States (WBTS). I spoke about Karl Marx, Joseph Weydemeyer, Franz Sigel, and Carl Schurz, among others, who supported the Lincoln Administration. The discussion of domestic Marxism associated with the iconic Abraham Lincoln made people uneasy. Immigrant socialist revolutionaries in St. Louis formed the core of Union support and were dedicated voters casting their ballots for Lincoln in the two Missouri counties that he won. The story about Missouri Governor Claiborne Jackson’s victory at the Battle of Carthage defeating a Marxist cadre (Franz Sigel’s command) was unknown to most folks. Reminding my audience that Carl Schurz, the Reconstruction Senator from Missouri, was the only admitted Marxist to serve in the Senate was a shock to many. Any discussion about the role of revolutionary socialism and the WBTS made people very uneasy. Now 10 years later, through the Grace of God and the dedicated work of veteran writers Walter (Donnie) Kennedy and Al Benson, Jr., the story of how Marx, his acolytes, and the Lincoln administration conspired to destroy the Constitution of the Founders and skew America toward atheism, socialism, and worse, is available to anyone who will read this important book. Today the information in this work will no longer make people uneasy; it will make them angry. Amazon.com says this about the book: Was Abraham Lincoln influenced by communism when the Union condemned the rights of Southern states to express their independence? It’s shocking to think so. But that’s precisely what Walter D. Kennedy and Al Benson Jr. assert in Red Republicans and Lincoln’s Marxists. The pair completely reassess this tumultuous time in American history, exposing the “politically correct” view of the War for Southern Independence as nothing less than the same observation announced by Marx himself. During the American Civil War, Marx wrote about his support of the Union Army, the Republican Party, and Lincoln himself. In fact, he named the president as “the single-minded son of the working class.” In addition to shedding light on this little-known part of our history, Kennedy and Benson also ask pertinent questions about the validity of today’s federal government and why its role seems so much larger than the liberty found in the states it represents. Red Republicans and Lincoln’s Marxists is a bold undertaking, but it’s one that needs our immediate and absolute attention. Within its fifteen chapters and six appendices the authors give us a wealth of information that has been hidden in scholarly journals and insider left-wing history books and exposes this occult record of socialism in America to the light of day. Although much of what the authors reveal has been known for decades, the Establishment has chosen to keep these facts about the Left under wraps. Cloaking information in misdirections such as calling Marxists German democrats, liberals, progressives, freedom-fighters, and other obfuscations. Historians and similar surrogates for the dominant culture have sought to hide the role of socialism from the public. The authors take on a number of misconceptions and sacred cows of the Left and courageously reassess the record. We are treated to a concise but adequate discussion of the chronology of anti-Constitutional thinking leaking into the American venue by a variety of European socialists. Prior to the major push of socialist and materialist thought which started in the 1850s, we find that the ground had already been plowed by several groups which were interested in reversing Christian thought from which the concept in free will had arisen. We see new light shed on Leftists icons like The Shakers, the Oneida Community, Owenites, Fourierist, and other proto-Marxist influences. These vanguard groups tested the waters of the new American nation with utopian experiments which would provide fertile ground for later revolutionary materialists to plant the seeds of Marxism and other aggressive forms of socialism that would flourish in the twentieth century. The term Red Republican is something the contemporary Republican Party wants people to forget. They would like people to believe that they are for small government, not mentioning that through Abe Lincoln a whole gaggle of socialists populated the original Republican ranks. The socialist takeover of the Democrat party is well known so they are completely onboard with the Red Republican legacy. That combination makes for an atmosphere of total silence on this subject among the political elites. However Lincoln is the father of both modern parties. Through the transformative miracle of big government, our political parties are both the bastard children of Lincoln and his consort Karl Marx. It is in their universal faith in the goodness of big government that we find common ground between these two lovers and the bacillus of big government centralism is the result of this marriage. The infection is with us to this day. The authors introduce us to the main players of the Red Republicans who inferred themselves into the American political system as a power-drunk Abraham Lincoln allowed one after another member of the Marxist Revolution of 1848 to enter the Union Army, to gain access to the levers of power, and to penetrate the President’s administration to the heart. Beginning on page 109 we find that General Franz Sigel and General Joseph Weydemeyer were trusted allies and active military men who commanded Union troops in the field. General Carl Schurz was not only a field commander but an advisor to King Abraham himself. Schurz would become a political leader, founding the Red Republicans, and was the Secretary of the Interior. He was the unelected Reconstruction Senator from Missouri until the Southerners got back the right to vote and ran him out of office legitimately electing distinguished Confederate General Francis Cockrell to the Senate for five terms; purging for a time the stench lingering behind. Although not alone, Sigel, Weydemeyer, and Schurz were all friends and correspondents of the notorious Karl Marx, who actively inveigled and schemed for a Union victory, seeing the North as the inevitable evolutionary progression towards the Worker’s Utopia of perpetual socialism. Destroying the Confederacy was the fulfillment of his prophecy that the Old Order would collapse of its own volition. Never mind that Marx would send money and military aid to his operatives in the North to aid evolution. On page 130 we find out that Lincoln operative Charles Dana, and publisher Horace Greeley, hired Marx, and from his position as a paid reporter for the New York press establishment he would influence the course of the War any way he could. Marx would be the writer who began the mythology that the WBTS was a war against slavery. Parroted by W. E. B. Dubois and others, the spin doctoring of Karl Marx, who claimed the “war was to end the slaveocracy” of the South, is now thought to be metaphysical truth. It has become the historical excuse to destroy a people and their culture and is now a complete catechism to the Left today, who cannot retell history without this building block. Even though slavery is endemic to every Communist regime, Leftists love to spew Marxian platitudes about freeing slaves from the plush safety of their Ivory Towers. Using the terms worker’s brigades, re-education camps, and volunteer-labor projects, Marxists have used slavery for every conceivable purpose. Stalin, Mao, and Castro preferred to create a class of political criminals, jail them, enslave them in camps, and work them to death. Despite their high-minded sophistry, such is the Left’s legacy regarding slavery. The book follows a parade of Marxists and other socialists. From the WBTS to the present both the prominent and the hidden Leftists are plucked from American history and clinically examined by the authors of Red Republicans. With the hot light of truth turned on them, these socialist pests skitter through our past laying eggs that hatch in our present. From the so-called “feminist movement,” past the invasion of labor organizations, into the Bellamys’ “Christian Socialism,” and the writing of the Pledge of Allegiance by a Marxist who inserted the word “indivisible” as a slap to the South, Kennedy and Benson treat us to a banquet of crucial facts. Although the book is very good, it is not without minor problems. Perhaps a fuller elucidation of European socialism in the nineteenth century might have been helpful. In the discussion of anarchist Michael Bakunin, the impression is left that Bakunin was an ally of Marx. The two were rivals, and noting that socialists, communists, and anarchists fought each other in Europe over doctrine might prove helpful to understanding the present. Noting that Bakunin at one time admired the anti-statism of the South but was brought to heel by Marx, who forced Bakunin to accept that slavery was the raison d’être for the War, is a point that the authors might have explored. Unfortunately for Bakunin, showing himself to be a vassal to European socialist opinion and not a leader helped to undo him. Tying Hitler closer to the socialist movement would also have been useful. Although Hitler was not a doctrinaire Marxist, he was nevertheless a socialist as his movement the National Socialist Party (Nazi) suggests. Although German Marxists initially supported the Fuehrer, Hitler came out of other European socialist traditions: the so-called “soft socialism” of the economist Von Schmoller for instance. But he did admire Marx and his fascination with strong central government: an obsession that Hitler, Marx, and Lincoln shared. That central fact is not missed by the authors. Perhaps an investigation into what effect the 48ers had on the United States military would have been illuminating as well. At its center the major players of Marxism in the WBTS were military men. It is interesting to note that the United States officer corps split about evenly over the War. Understandably confused, some chose the new statism of Lincoln and some chose the Constitution, siding with the South. In the next major crisis, the military will have to choose among the State, the Constitution, and the Empire. Remembering that Marxists believe in the inevitable victory of an international Communist society, it is not so far fetched to opine that the legacy of Carl Schurz and company is the triumph of a global socialist empire. One can only wonder what the officers and enlisted personnel of the U. S. military will do next time. These and a few other omissions are a trifle compared to the importance of Red Republicans. It is a well written reference book which is very readable. Its vocabulary is friendly to anyone. Furthermore, those independent scholars of sententia meridiana or students of liberty will cherish this volume. Readers can place this book next to the Southern Agrarian masterpiece I’ll Take My Stand, Thomas DiLorenzo’s The Real Lincoln, and Donald Gilmore’s The Civil War on the Missouri/Kansas Border, in recognizing the importance of this work. Red Republicans is also an operational tool that will smash the illusions woven by the omnipresent Left, and it will incite the public to reclaim the truth of their past.
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#1. To: X-15 (#0)
Sounds interesting. I'll get it.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
From the past I recall that Wedemeyer made weekly written reports to Marx concerning the Union Army. Perhaps our first communist spy of whom we were to have many more in later times. Is it any wonder that Lincoln and Roosevelt are our two most "famous" presidents??? "Weydemeyer, Joseph (1818-1866), personal friend and correspondent of Friedrich Engels. Served first as Lt. Col. of the 2nd MO Arty., in the Ozarks; resigned. In 1864 Col., 40th MO Inf. S: Kaufmann 564; Rosengarten 237, 245; Rowan 31; Zucker 354"
If you note, it was not by coincidence that Lincoln in 1848 on the floor of the House made his speech saying that people had the right to rebel anytime they felt like it... Of course when he became president that "right" became illegal and Americans died by the thousands, plus Abe imprisoned thousands for nothing.
I've read much about Lincoln and think he was the most damaging figure to this country, and to the South. He's kind of like Hitler, historically speaking. There seems to be a dual personality.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
Saturday, 2 February 2008 Republican Party - Red From the Start By Alan Stang Many patriots these days lament that the Republican Party has "lost its way" and "gone wrong." It has "diverged" from the fiscally responsible, small government philosophy of Republican heroes like Robert Taft whom Eisenhower's handlers finagled out of the nomination for President in 1952. We are told that is why today's Republican Establishment hates Dr. Ron Paul with such a passion; that they hate him because, like Taft, he is the quintessential Republican. Patriots who say that are mistaken, of course. The reason the Republican Establishment hates Dr. Paul is precisely that he is not a traditional, mainstream Republican, that his platform of freedom is an aberration. The Republican Party didn't "go wrong," didn't "go left." It has been wrong from the beginning, from the day it was founded. From the beginning, the Republican Party has worked without deviation for bigger, more imperial government, for higher taxes, for more wars, for more totalitarianism. >From the beginning, the Republican Party has been Red. Why? In 1848, Communists rose in revolution across Europe, united by a document prepared for the purpose, entitled Manifesto of the Communist Party. Its author was a degenerate parasite named Karl Marx, whom a small gang of wealthy Communists the League of Just Men hired for the purpose. The Manifesto told its adherents and its victims what the Communists would do. But the Revolution of 1848 failed. The perpetrators escaped, just ahead of the police. And they went, of course, to the united States. In 1856, the Republican Party ran its first candidate for President. By that time, these Communists from Europe had thoroughly infiltrated this country, especially the North. Many became high ranking officers in the Union Army and top government officials. Down through the decades, Americans have wondered about Yankee brutality in that war. Lee invaded the North, but that sublime Christian hero forbade any forays against civilians. Military genius Stonewall Jackson stood like a stone wall and routed the Yankees at Manassas, but when Barbara Frietchie insisted on flying the Yankee flag in Frederick, Maryland, rather than the Stars and Bars, that sublime Christian hero commanded, according to John Greenleaf Whittier, "'Who touches a hair of yon gray head/Dies like a dog! March on!' he said." But the Yankees, invading the South, were monsters, killing, raping and destroying civilian property. In one Georgia town, some 400 women were penned in the town square in the July heat for almost a week without access to female facilities. It got worse when the Yankee slime got into the liquor. Some two thousand Southern women and children were shipped north to labor as slaves. Didn't you learn that in school? Sherman's scorched earth March to the Sea was a horror the later Nazis could not equal. Why? Because the Yankees hated Negro slavery so much? There can be no doubt that the already strong Communist influence in the North, combined with that of the maniacal abolitionists, was at least one of the main reasons. Slavery was a tardy excuse, an afterthought they introduced to gain propaganda traction. In retrospect, it appears that because nothing like this had ever happened here, Lee and Jackson did not fully comprehend what they were fighting. Had this really been a "Civil" War, rather than a secession, they would and could easily have seized Washington after Manassas and hanged our first Communist President and the other war criminals. Instead they went home, in the mistaken belief that the defeated Yankees would leave them alone. Lee did come to understand too late He said after the war that had he known at the beginning what he had since found out, he would have fought to the last man. What was the South fighting? Alexander Hamilton was the nation's first big government politician. Hamilton wanted a strong central government and a national bank. Vice President Aaron Burr killed Hamilton in a duel. The problem was that Burr didn't kill him soon enough. Henry Clay inherited and expanded Hamilton's ideas in something called the "American System," which advocated big government subsidies for favored industries and high, ruinous tariffs, what we today call "socialism for the rich." Clay inspired smooth talking railroad lawyer Abraham Lincoln, who inherited the Red escapees from the Revolution of 1848 and became our first Communist President. All of this comes again to mind with the recent publication of Red Republicans: Marxism in the Civil War and Lincoln's Marxists (iUniverse, Lincoln, Nebraska, 2007) by Southern historians Walter D. Kennedy and Al Benson, Jr. You must read this book, because it irrefutably nails down everything I have said above and then some. Let's browse through Red Republicans, and, as we do so, remember that the reason most Americans have never heard of all this is that the winner writes the history. For instance, August Willich was a member of the London Communist League with Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Needless to say, Willich became a major general in the Union Army. Robert Rosa belonged to the New York Communist Club and was a major in the 45th New York Infantry. Brigadier general Louis Blenker of New York was a "convinced Marxist." His 10,000 man division looted people in Virginia, inspiring the term "Blenkered." Many of his men were fresh from European prisons. Our first Communist President knew this, but turned them loose on the people of the South. In Red Republicans we learn of nine European revolutionaries convicted of treason and banished to Australia. They escaped to the united States and Canada. Three or four of them, with no military experience, became Union generals, joining at least three other Marx confidants who already held that rank. "Every man of the nine became a member of the Canadian Parliament, a governor of a territory or state in the Union, party leader, prime minister or attorney general." Many of these men, not all, were Germans, some four thousand of whom escaped to this country Known as Forty-Eighters, they quickly added violent abolitionism and feminism to their Communist beliefs. In Missouri, Forty-Eighter Franz Sigel became a Union general and had uniforms made for his Third Infantry Regiment that closely resembled the uniforms worn by socialist revolutionaries in Germany in 1849. Forty-Eighters who became high ranking Union commanders included Colonel Friedrich Salomon, Ninth Wisconsin, Colonel Fritz Anneke, Thirty Fourth Wisconsin and Colonel Konrad Krez, Twenty Seventh Wisconsin. Communist journalist Karl Heinzen wrote: "If you have to blow up half a continent and cause a bloodbath to destroy the party of barbarism, you should have no scruples of conscience. Anyone who would not joyously sacrifice his life for the satisfaction of exterminating a million barbarians is not a true republican." Heinzen came to this country and supported Lincoln. Joseph Weydemeyer had to flee Germany when the Communist Revolution failed. In London he belonged to the Communist League and was a close friend of Marx and Engels. He came to this country in 1851, supported Lincoln, maintained his close friendship with Marx and became a Brigadier General in the Union Army. Dedicated socialist Richard Hinton had to leave England. In this country he became a Union colonel, a Radical Republican and an associate of maniac John Brown's. So was Allan Pinkerton, who financed him. At one meeting with Brown, Pinkerton told his son: "Look well upon that man. He is greater than Napoleon and just as great as George Washington." Yes, Pinkerton was the great detective who founded the agency that bears his name. Why didn't you know that? In Kansas, mass murderer Brown enjoyed the support of wealthy Yankees (the Secret Six). August Bondi and Charles Kaiser, who worked with Brown there, were Forty Eighters. What about Marx himself? Marx fled to England, where he is buried. He became the European correspondent for socialist Horace Greeley's New York Tribune, whose Managing Editor, Charles Dana, was a Communist. Dana hired Marx as a foreign correspondent. Marx wrote often of his kinship with the new Republican Party. Dana's generosity to Marx kept that scumbag alive. Remember that Marx never worked a day to support his family, but did find time to impregnate their maid. Dana later became Assistant Secretary of War. All these people were in place when our first Communist President was elected on the Republican ticket in 1860 and provoked Lincoln's Communist War to Destroy the Union. The GOP Convention of 1860 took place in Chicago, a flaming center of German Communism. Many such Reds were delegates, including Johann Bernhard Stallo and Frederick Hassaurek from Ohio and Heinrich Bornstein from Missouri, a friend of Marx. Socialist Carl Schurz was a delegate from Wisconsin. To guarantee German support in Illinois, Lincoln secretly bought the Illinois Staats Anzieger. After the election he awarded the editor a consular post. Socialist Friedrich Kapp was editor of the New Yorker-Abendzeitung. He wrote propaganda for the new Republican Party and helped mightily to deliver the German-American vote to Lincoln. With other Forty-Eighters, he was an elector for Lincoln in 1860. Remember, these are just a few examples. You really need to read the book. Call, toll-free 1 (800) 288-4677 to order. Remember that slavery, for these Communists, was just an afterthought, a tool. Before the War for Independence, it was the Southern colonies that petitioned the King to stop importing slaves into the South. Did you know that Jefferson tried to include in the Declaration of Independence a complaint against the King because his government had forbidden the colonies to end the slave trade? Jefferson's language was deleted to avoid giving offense to New England, which was making buckets of money trading slaves. Indeed, did you also know that if slavery was what the South fought to defend, all it had to do was stay in the Union? Lincoln made clear that he would defend slavery and would not free slaves owned by a man in a state within the Union: "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so." Remember that the Emancipation Proclamation came well into the war. It was a propaganda stunt that freed only the slaves in areas controlled by the Confederacy; in other words, none. Meanwhile, prominent abolitionist Robert E. Lee, the first man Lincoln offered command of the Union Army, had freed his family's slaves long before the war. So, what were the Communists who came here after? Republican Senator John Sherman, brother of the monster who Marched to the Sea, advised his fellow senators to "nationalize as much as possible [making] men love their country before their states. All private interests, all local interests, all banking interests, the interests of individuals, everything, should be subordinate now to the interests of the Government." Germany was a decentralized collection of independent states. The goal of the Forty Eighters there was a "united, indivisible republic" in which those states would be dissolved. Land and private industry would be confiscated. The government would be transformed into a Socialist dictatorship. These are the ideas the Forty Eighters came to implement here. By the way, that is what Hitler did in the 1930s. That is what the fleeing Communists found so attractive in Lincoln. So, again, the Republican Party did not "go wrong." It was rotten from the start. It has never been anything else but red. The characterization of Republican states as "red states" is quite appropriate. What do these revelations mean to us? Again, Dr. Paul is an aberration. He is not a "traditional Republican." A "traditional Republican" stands for high taxes, imperial government and perpetual war. | Dr. Paul is much more a traditional Democrat. I refer of course to the Democrat Party before the Communist takeover, which began with the election of Woodrow Federal Reserve-Income Tax-World War I Wilson and was consummated with the election of liar, swindler, thief, traitor and mass murderer Franklin Delano Roosevelt. I am talking about the Democrat Party of Thomas Jefferson. So of course the Republican Party will do everything it can to sandbag Dr. Paul. Expect that. It rightly considers him an interloper who doesn't belong there. Yes, because of decades of perversion of popular opinion about the Republican Party, he must run as a Republican. But no patriot loyalty, and certainly no trust, should be forthcoming, because the Party is a sidewinder that will betray him in a Ghouliani minute. Dr. No is on one side. The Republicrat Party is one the other. "Published originally at EtherZone.com : republication allowed with this notice and hyperlink intact." Alan Stang has been a network radio talk show host and was one of Mike Wallace's first writers. He was a Contributing Editor for American Opinion magazine and has lectured around the world for more than 40 years. He is the author of some fifteen books and hundreds of magazine pieces. His new book is Not Holier Than Thou: How Queer Is Bush? He is a regular columnist for Ether Zone. www.alanstang.com
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." BTTT
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TX... MSM and our programmers would have us believe that Lincoln is so loved because he freed the slaves and saved the Union. Thats not quite right.
Most people don't know it, but Lincoln was kicked in the face by a horse when he was about 11, and unconscious for a long time. They thought he was going to die. His face was deformed for the rest of his life, and after that accident he suffered debilitating depression off and on for the rest of his life. I'm sure the brain damage he suffered affected his judgment as President. He was also a faggot.
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interesting history ping. also see Artisan's #5 for Stang's article.
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
lincoln is actually a seventh cousion of mine, which has been a source of 'pride' in the family at holidays over the years. i do not think the extended family, mostly good republicans, would easily understand it, the truth about lincoln or for that matter, RED RONNIE. ha ha ha. sometimes it is pointless to even bother, isnt it? ;-/ ha ha ha!!!!
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. hahahaha. yeah, that would go over big. this was all new to me. it puts a whole new light on Ron Paul remaining a republican, doesn't it? the party, in reality, doesn't stand for anything he believes in at all.
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
If only, if only...
i like paul not for his cowardice, which is plentiful, but rather because despite all his faults, he is, imo, still the best 'rep' we have in congress, illustrated by the policy/ideas he advocates as well as his solid voting record. so in public i still support him, because it is simply too complicated and convoluted for the general public to understand why people 'like us' would turn against him. (cold day in hell before i ever give him another dime, though. ;-D i got the 'red ronnie' thing from stang, who used to be on local radio shows here. a very interesting document is from UROC, united repubs of california, who put out a declaration during reagans run for governor, outlining how he was a fake conservative all along, even then. it might be available online and is a great explanation of why he was a rat phony all along.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
#2. To: X-15 (#0)
#3. To: noone222 (#1)
Part of my monologue was devoted to the role of the 48ers: those veterans of the 1848 Marxist uprisings in Europe, and how they effected the politics of Missouri during the War Between the States (WBTS).
#4. To: Cynicom (#3)
#5. To: X-15, artisan (#0)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#6. To: X-15 (#0)
It is interesting to note that the United States officer corps split about evenly over the War. Understandably confused, some chose the new statism of Lincoln and some chose the Constitution, siding with the South. In the next major crisis, the military will have to choose among the State, the Constitution, and the Empire
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#7. To: X-15, noone222, LincolnsMarxists (#0)
Has anyone read this since originally posted?
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#8. To: IndieTX (#7)
#9. To: X-15, rotara (#0)
bfl
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#10. To: Cynicom (#3)
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#11. To: Artisan, redpanther (#5)
ping
#12. To: Sam Houston, Jethro Tull (#0)
#13. To: IndieTX, christine, psusa (#11)
Republican Party - Red From the Start By Alan Stang
"yeah, cousin abe, that FASCIST pig DICTATOR BASTARD! BOOTHE DID THE COUNTRY A FAVOR!"
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#14. To: Artisan (#13)
RED RONNIE
#15. To: Artisan (#5)
Had this really been a "Civil" War, rather than a secession, they would and could easily have seized Washington after Manassas and hanged our first Communist President and the other war criminals. Instead they went home, in the mistaken belief that the defeated Yankees would leave them alone. Lee did come to understand too late He said after the war that had he known at the beginning what he had since found out, he would have fought to the last man.
#16. To: christine (#14)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
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