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Title: John McCain was born in Panama Canal Zone
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Published: May 1, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-05-01 08:58:40 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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Comments: 13

The Constitution says the Presidential requirements call for someone to be born in the United States.

Is this legal?

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#8. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

The Constitution says the Presidential requirements call for someone to be born in the United States.

Inaccurate.

The constitution specifies natural born citizen, and not born in the United States.

From: Article II

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

The 14th Amendment is irrelevant. It contains no exclusivity clause. It makes citizenship inclusive of anyone born in the U.S. and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, but does not exclude someone in the birth status of John McCain.

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TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401

§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;

(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;

(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;

(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;

(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person

(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or

(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and

(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-01   18:20:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#9. To: nolu_chan (#8)

a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions

Panama WAS NOT a possession of the United States. The US paid Panama a rental fee to use the canal.

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-05-01 18:36:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I agree with you on this one chan. The U.S code you sited is irrelevant though. The words of the constitution trump U.S. Code. Most U.S. Code is unconstitutional.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-02 07:35:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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