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Title: Unqualified
Source: ICH
URL Source: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19854.htm
Published: May 1, 2008
Author: Mark A. Goldman
Post Date: 2008-05-01 21:52:31 by richard9151
Keywords: None
Views: 109
Comments: 2

01/05/08 "ICH " -- - Barack Obama has finally done it. Obama now claims that statements by Reverend Wright “rightly offend all Americans and should be denounced.”

Well Reverend Wright’s comments don’t offend me. I would have found them refreshing had his answers and demeanor been less defensive during the question and answer period at the National Press Club. What I do find disappointing though is Obama’s inability to deal with the issues raised. He’s afraid that telling the truth will lose him the election. Maybe it would. But now we all can see, that for him, winning the election is more important than telling the truth.

Winning the election is more important than telling the truth for the other two front- runners too. That’s why none of them are qualified to be President of the United States. www.gpln.com/citizen.htm

Certainly reconciliation between different ethnic groups or any other kinds of groups cannot happen without all parties recognizing and eventually taking responsibility for uncomfortable truths on all sides of any relevant issue. Obama spoke eloquently about race earlier in his campaign but was unable to do the same with these new issues raised by Rev. Wright, and that's too bad. Instead of facing them, he ran for cover behind mainstream illusions.

We should be thankful that Americans are getting the opportunity to see these candidates for who they are now, in terms of their state of consciousness and how they deal with problems, rather than after the election.

McCain who claimed he was against torture, is no longer bothered by the reality of torture as long as he can point to his name being on a piece of empty legislation that offers the illusion that he deeply cares. He has no problem with Bush’s signing statements, public statements, policies of unending torture, or any of the many other Bush administration abuses of the Constitution.

Clinton’s level of intellectual integrity comes through loud and clear as she attacks Obama for associating with the good Reverend, so we know from just this issue, which is one among many, that she is just another Bush light when it comes to telling the American people the truth as to why this country is in the mess we're in. In all fairness, she appears not to have any idea why we are in the mess we’re in, or what part failing to tell the truth plays in the decline of America's place in the world. www.gpln.com/howiseeit.htm

So now it is ever more clear that there is no hope at all among the leading three candidates that any one of them has the courage, the consciousness, or the capacity to lead this country out of its quagmire. www.gpln.com/whotovotefor.htm

What we need are citizen leaders and leaders in government who have a high degree of moral courage and intellectual integrity. Where are they? www.gpln.com/nooneisleading.htm

I’ve not read up on specifically why Reverend Wright charges that the US government has or had a direct role in spreading AIDS in the Black community, but knowing what I know about other atrocities committed by our government, I would trust Reverend Wright now before I would trust any of the three leading candidates to talk about it.

And there’s no doubt at all in my mind that the good Reverend was dead on correct when he said that the attack on the World Trade Center was a case of chickens coming home to roost. www.gpln.com/childrenofiraq.htm For Obama to attack Wright for telling the truth… calling Wright’s comments ridiculous and offensive is in itself a bit ridiculous and offensive.

I suppose Obama agrees with Bush that we were attacked because of our freedoms and democracy. How Bush’s nonsensical statements can be spoken in public and accepted by the media and other institutions, or believed by the American people, just shows you how much of our national honor and integrity has been shoved down those American rat holes called greed, hypocrisy, hubris, stupidity, and treason.

www.gpln.com/standupforfreedom.htm

Rev. Jeremiah Wright in his own words: www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19836.htm

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I’ve not read up on specifically why Reverend Wright charges that the US government has or had a direct role in spreading AIDS in the Black community, but knowing what I know about other atrocities committed by our government, I would trust Reverend Wright now before I would trust any of the three leading candidates to talk about it.


www.npr.org/programs/morn...atures/2002/jul/tuskegee/

"For 40 years, the U.S. Public Health Service has conducted a study in which human guinea pigs, not given proper treatment, have died of syphilis and its side effects," Associated Press reporter Jean Heller wrote on July 25, 1972. "The study was conducted to determine from autopsies what the disease does to the human body."

This not ancient history, especially for Black people. The U.S. PHS used Blacks for 40 years as guinea pigs, deliberately withholding treatment for syphilis, and did not stop until they were publicly busted in a newspaper. Considering the history, government-sponsored action targeting Blacks or gays is not so outrageously unbelieveable as one would like to think.

There are some interesting questions about AIDS. It seemed to spread quickly in Africa. It would seem more likely for something like that to spread quickly in areas with very good transportation systems and dense population areas.

Kary Mullis is a controversial biochemist who was awarded the 1993 Nobel prize for his invention of the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) which enabled DNA tests on small samples. He also is a skeptic of the the official explanation for AIDS. Another notable doubter is Peter Duesberg, a professor of molecular and cell biology, elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1986, and recipient of an Outstanding Investigator Grant from the National Institutes of Health. Serge Lang was a French-born American mathematician at Yale and also a member of the National Academy of Sciences. While all AIDS critics and criticism are controversial, some have some serious credentials.

DUESBERG ON AIDS WEBSITE

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www.duesberg.com/presentations/$bnAIDSQuiz.pdf

A multibillion $ Quiz:
Is AIDS a viral or a chemical epidemic?

Peter Duesberg
Lew Rockwell conference
Foster City
December 1-2, 2006

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www.duesberg.com/viewpoints/case2.html

The Case of HIV: We Have Been Misled
By Serge Lang

Yale Scientific
Spring 1999
Volume 72, Nos. 2 & 3, pp. 9-19

Table of Contents

Editors Note p. 9
Introduction pp. 9-10
§1. Circular official definition pp 10-11
§2. Misleading and nonsensical CDC figures pp. 11-12
§3. Correlation? p. 12
§4. Paradoxes and no control groups pp. 12 -13
§5. Contradictory models: Ho and Shaw; Pakker et al, Gorochov et al,... pp. 13-16
§6. Defective journalism pp. 16-17
§7. Efficacy and safety of prescription drugs. The Emerson case in Maine pp. 17-18
§8. Withholding information. Articles outside the mainstream press pp. 18-19
Bibliography p. 19

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www.duesberg.com/viewpoints/kintro.html

Kary Mullis, Nobel Prize winner in Chemistry

The following was written by Kary Mullis for the introduction to the book "Inventing the AIDS Virus" by Peter H. Duesberg (Regnery Publishing, INC; Washington DC, 1996):

By Kary Mullis

In 1988 I was working as a consultant at Specialty Labs in Santa Monica, setting up analytic routines for the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV). I knew a lot about setting up analytic routines for anything with nucleic acids in it because I had invented the Polymerase Chain Reaction. That's why they had hired me.

Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS), on the other hand, was something I did not know a lot about. Thus, when I found myself writing a report on our progress and goals for the project, sponsored by the National Institutes of Health, I recog nized that I did not know the scientific reference to support a statement I had just written: "HIV is the probable cause of AIDS."

So I turned to the virologist at the next desk, a reliable and competent fellow, and asked him for the reference. He said I didn't need one. I disagreed. While it's true that certain scientific discov eries or techniques are so well established that their sources are no longer referenced in the contemporary literature, that didn't seem to be the case with the HIV/AIDS connection. It was totally remarkable to me that the individual who had discovered the cause of a deadly and as-yet-uncured disease would not be continually referenced in the scientific papers until that disease was cured and forgotten. But as I would soon learn, the name of that individual - who would surely be Nobel material - was on the tip of no one's tongue.

Of course, this simple reference had to be out there somewhere. Otherwise tens of thousands of public servants and esteemed scientists of many callings, trying to solve the tragic deaths of a large number of homosexual and/or intravenous (IV) drug-using men between the ages of twenty-five and forty, would not have allowed their research to settle into one narrow channel of investigation. Everyone wouldn't fish in the same pond unless it was well estab lished that all the other ponds were empty. There had to be a pub lished paper, or perhaps several of them, which taken together indicated that HIV was the probable cause of AIDS. There just had to be.

I did computer searches, but came up with nothing. Of course, you can miss something important in computer searches by not putting in just the right key words. To be certain about a scientific issue, it's best to ask other scientists directly. That's one thing that scientific conferences in faraway places with nice beaches are for.

I was going to a lot of meetings and conferences as part of my job. I got in the habit of approaching anyone who gave a talk about AIDS and asking him or her what reference I should quote for that increasingly problematic statement, "HIV is the probable cause of AIDS."

After ten or fifteen meetings over a couple years, I was getting pretty upset when no one could cite the reference. I didn't like the ugly conclusion that was forming in my mind: The entire campaign against a disease increasingly regarded as a twentieth century Black Plague was based on a hypothesis whose origins no one could recall. That defied both scientific and common sense.

Finally, I had an opportunity to question one of the giants in HIV and AIDS research, Dr Luc Montagnier of the Pasteur Institute, when he gave a talk in San Diego. It would be the last time I would be able to ask my little question without showing anger, and I figured Montagnier would know the answer. So I asked him.

With a look of condescending puzzlement, Montagnier said, "Why don't you quote the report from the Centers for Disease Control? "

I replied, "It doesn't really address the issue of whether or not HIV is the probable cause of AIDS, does it?"

"No," he admitted, no doubt wondering when I would just go away. He looked for support to the little circle of people around him, but they were all awaiting a more definitive response, like I was.

"Why don't you quote the work on SIV [Simian Immunodeficiency Virus]?" the good doctor offered.

"I read that too, Dr Montagnier," I responded. "What happened to those monkeys didn't remind me of AIDS. Besides, that paper was just published only a couple of months ago. I'm looking for the original paper where somebody showed that HIV caused AIDS.

This time, Dr Montagnier's response was to walk quickly away to greet an acquaintance across the room.

Cut to the scene inside my car just a few years ago. I was driving from Mendocino to San Diego. Like everyone else by now, I knew a lot more about AIDS than I wanted to. But I still didn't know who had determined that it was caused by HIV. Getting sleepy as I came over the San Bernardino Mountains, I switched on the radio and tuned in a guy who was talking about AIDS. His name was Peter Duesberg, and he was a prominent virologist at Berkeley. I'd heard of him, but had never read his papers or heard him speak. But I listened, now wide awake, while he explained exactly why I was having so much trouble finding the references that linked HIV to AIDS. There weren't any. No one had ever proved that HIV causes AIDS. When I got home, I invited Duesberg down to San Diego to present his ideas to a meeting of the American Association for Chemistry. Mostly skeptical at first, the audience stayed for the lecture, and then an hour of questions, and then stayed talking to each other until requested to clear the room. Everyone left with more questions than they had brought.

I like and respect Peter Duesberg. I don't think he knows necessarily what causes AIDS; we have disagreements about that. But we're both certain about what doesn't cause AIDS.

We have not been able to discover any good reasons why most of the people on earth believe that AIDS is a disease caused by a virus called HIV. There is simply no scientific evidence demonstrating that this is true.

We have also not been able to discover why doctors prescribe a toxic drug called AZT (Zidovudine) to people who have no other complaint than the presence of antibodies to HIV in their blood. In fact, we cannot understand why humans would take that drug for any reason.

We cannot understand how all this madness came about, and having both lived in Berkeley, we've seen some strange things indeed. We know that to err is human, but the HIV/AIDS hypothesis is one hell of a mistake.

I say this rather strongly as a warning. Duesberg has been saying it for a long time.

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nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-02   1:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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We have not been able to discover any good reasons why most of the people on earth believe that AIDS is a disease caused by a virus called HIV. There is simply no scientific evidence demonstrating that this is true.

We have also not been able to discover why doctors prescribe a toxic drug called AZT (Zidovudine) to people who have no other complaint than the presence of antibodies to HIV in their blood. In fact, we cannot understand why humans would take that drug for any reason.

We cannot understand how all this madness came about, and having both lived in Berkeley, we've seen some strange things indeed. We know that to err is human, but the HIV/AIDS hypothesis is one hell of a mistake.

Excellent. I had not read this before, or, anything from this man. Thanks for the post.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest. ++++++++++ Attention, Shrub; A life of evil is ultimately a life of wretchedness.

richard9151  posted on  2008-05-02   11:28:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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