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Title: Daily Show: Billy Graham vs. Jeremiah Wright
Source: http://www.crooksandliars.com/
URL Source: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/ ... lly-graham-vs-jeremiah-wright/
Published: May 2, 2008
Author: posted By: SilentPatriot
Post Date: 2008-05-02 00:26:28 by robin
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Views: 3462
Comments: 53

Daily Show: Billy Graham vs. Jeremiah Wright

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#1. To: robin (#0) (Edited)

The more I see of Jeremiah Wright clips on "The Daily Show" the more I like him. He really would have made a good comedian. His impersonations, especially of stuck-up white news commentators are spot on. Obama is showing a lack of class by distancing himself from him. But that is just my opinion.

What is more to the point, as host of the netcast show "Antiwar Radio" Scott Horton points out, is this emphasis on Wright to the virtual exclusion of everything else -- more so to the exclusion of things that are actually important to Americans and the future, is a sure sign that someone somewhere is deliberately fucking with Americans' heads.

www.kaosradioaustin.org/a...on_May_1st%2C_2008%29.mp3

This is said towards the end of the show, btw.

From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.

PnbC  posted on  2008-05-02   1:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-02   10:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What is more to the point, as host of the netcast show "Antiwar Radio" Scott Horton points out, is this emphasis on Wright to the virtual exclusion of everything else -- more so to the exclusion of things that are actually important to Americans and the future, is a sure sign that someone somewhere is deliberately fucking with Americans' heads.

www.kaosradioaustin.org/a...on_May_1st%2C_2008%29.mp3

I've tried to make a similar point here as well, the smearing/swiftboating of Obama via even his associates (why don't they try that on Hillary or McCain - plenty of muck there!) is evidence that Obama must be a threat to the status quo. And Hillary's attack (separate from MSM) is evidence she is fine with a double-drowning that elects McCain.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-05-02   11:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What is it about Black Liberation Theoligy and those that support it you don't understand?

robnoel  posted on  2008-05-02   11:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What is it about 3 degrees of separation from someone that you don't understand? Obama's ex-pastor who quoted from someone else; a quote from the 1970s!

What is it about this smear campaign, orchestrated by the War Party to make Obama out to be an extremist anti-Semite that you don't understand?

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-05-02   11:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...? ArtNum=79513&Disp=60#C60

A poster at Politico, took the time to pull some excerpts from Obama's books and posted in the comments section of this piece: www.politico.com/new s/stories/0508/10031.html

“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students, the foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.” Barack Hussein Obama, “Dreams From My Father” (emp. added) .

“I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER'S RACE.” Barack Hussein Obama, “Dreams From My Father” (emp. added, caps. in original) .

"The emotion between the races could never be pure..... the other race would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart." Barack Hussein Obama, “Dreams From My Father” (emp. added) .

“That hate hadn’t gone away,” [Obama wrote, blaming] “white people— some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.” Barack Hussein Obama, “Dreams From My Father” (emp. added) .

“I had grown accustomed, everywhere, to suspicions between the races.” Barack Hussein Obama, “Dreams From My Father” (emp. added) . “[The globe is a place] where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere.... That's the world! On which hope sits.” Barack Hussein Obama (quoting Wright), “Dreams From My Father” (emp. added) .

“[Obama vowed that he would] never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm [Malcolm X], DuBois and Mandela.” Barack Hussein Obama, “Dreams From My Father” (emp. added) .

“In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school…. I studied the Koran….” Barack Hussein Obama, “Dreams From My Father” (emp. added) .

“We are no longer just a Christian nation,” “We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.” Barack Hussein Obama, “Dreams From My Father” (emp. added) .

“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” Barack Hussein Obama, “The Audacity of Hope” (emp. added) .

“Lolo [Obama's step father] followed a brand of Islam.... I looked to Lolo for guidance.” Barack Hussein Obama, “The Audacity of Hope” (emp. added) .

“The person who made me proudest of all, though, was [half brother] Roy .. He converted to Islam.” Barack Hussein Obama, “Dreams From My Father” (emp. added) .

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-02   11:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What is it about 3 degrees of separation from someone that you don't understand?

i don't see the 3 degrees of separation. he attended the church for 20 years and further, Obama can't separate himself from his own writings and orations. he's only doing it now, separating from Wright and flipflopping, because he's doing what's expedient for him politically. certainly his hypocrisy can't be denied.

p.s. ALL politicians do this.

christine  posted on  2008-05-02   12:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

robnoel posted some quotes from a man from whom Wright quoted (that is the 3 degrees I was referring to).
Obama was a member of a congregation that Wright was the respected pastor of for 30 years. A church that was known for its good works in the local community.

Obama has been forced to separate himself because of the media circus over Wright. A totally unfair circus. The quotes from Wright (not the quotes from the person Wright quoted that robnoel posted) have been taken out of context, blown out of proportion by the media and repeated over and over.

Obama is running for president, not Wright!

When did the media ever care about what someone's pastor said at some point in 30 years of preaching! Never! They had to go through hours of sermons to find snippets to use against Wright - and then somehow make it against Obama. And Fox News, O'Reilly and Limbaugh are leading the charge. Can't you smell the BS?!

Hillary and McCain have much stranger and exotic religious connections than Obama but the media is silent.

And when Ron Paul did not come out on the side of 9/11 Truth was he not being politically expedient? We all understood.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-05-02   12:38:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

to make Obama out to be an extremist anti-Semite that you don't understand?

To the best of my knowledge no has acussed him of being a anti-Semite after all he has vowed his support of Israel at the expense of the "oppressed" palistiniens which is kind of strange considering he is for the oppressed....you hitched your wagon to him and can't deal with the fact he is not going to become President.....deal with it.....

robnoel  posted on  2008-05-02   12:41:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Justin Raimondo explains here how not directly calling Obama an antisemite, but everyone he ever knew as an extremist, is working very well.

Of course he said he supports Israel, but to what degree is the question.

I'm well aware that they don't call it the White House b/c of the paint job, but I am glad to see him fighting anyway.

BTW, I have not "hitched" my "wagon" to him, but I am happy to defend him against the likes of O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Fox News.

The War Party has it in for Obama, why don't you see that?

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-05-02   12:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm fully aware that the ones who have been wrong on everything finally get something right....even a blind dog finds a bone ever now and then

robnoel  posted on  2008-05-02   13:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

someone somewhere is deliberately fucking with Americans' heads.

Yep, I'm honestly surprised at how many racists Obama has brought out of the closet. Doesn't make any differece about the real issues - they just keep trying to scare the hell out of white America. Even here on the forum, you can easily pick out the white sheet and hood crowd.

Arete  posted on  2008-05-02   13:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Racist... a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

For those of us who live in the real world we have accepted that "not all men are created equal" don't try and use the "We hold these truths" because the founders were talking about "monarche" or "hereditary" if you like.

Thinking that we as two legged animals differ from our four legged friends is bordering on the naive

robnoel  posted on  2008-05-02   13:31:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And when Ron Paul did not come out on the side of 9/11 Truth was he not being politically expedient? We all understood.

yes, he was....and if you recall, i was one of his biggest criticizers for that. i hate the political game of saying what's politically expedient. maybe i'm being naive, but i say go for broke. speak truth to power. it's late enough in the game that we the people have nothing left but that. we'll never win any other way.

christine  posted on  2008-05-02   13:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The War Party has it in for Obama, why don't you see that?

maybe because we see that the WAR Party isn't just the GOP. it's the Democrat party as well. iow, the National Party. have you forgotten that nothing changed when the supposed anti-war dems took power two years ago? have you seen the Democrats refuse to continue to fund this mess? no, they're complicit in the furtherance of it. onward IRAN and Syria(?) and Pakistan(?) and god knows who else.

christine  posted on  2008-05-02   13:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yep, I'm honestly surprised at how many racists Obama has brought out of the closet. Doesn't make any differece about the real issues - they just keep trying to scare the hell out of white America. Even here on the forum, you can easily pick out the white sheet and hood crowd.

The only race I want eliminated from America...is the Marxist-Fascist Establishment race.

If you're in that patch, God help you.

FOH  posted on  2008-05-02   14:04:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

maybe because we see that the WAR Party isn't just the GOP. it's the Democrat party as well. iow, the National Party. have you forgotten that nothing changed when the supposed anti-war dems took power two years ago? have you seen the Democrats refuse to continue to fund this mess? no, they're complicit in the furtherance of it. onward IRAN and Syria(?) and Pakistan(?) and god knows who else.

You'll get nowhere using facts, common sense or even the sense God gave a squirrel with this crowd...they're suffering from and they have to hit rock bottom before there can be any hope.

FOH  posted on  2008-05-02   14:07:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Doesn't make any differece about the real issues

i disagree. it's his positions and socialist politics, in large part because of his own racism. i.e. adherence to Black Liberation Theology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=lI77cU3jsFs&eurl=http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/mailread.cgi? mn=66080&mf=I

it's apparently ok and accepted as not racist when said by a black/white man.

christine  posted on  2008-05-02   14:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yep, I'm honestly surprised at how many racists Obama has brought out of the closet. Doesn't make any differece about the real issues - they just keep trying to scare the hell out of white America. Even here on the forum, you can easily pick out the white sheet and hood crowd.

He loses on issues alone. That race was injected was the fault of his party, and that his views in his own words are racist is a fact people do not like.

That we are to overlook his domestic policy, measure his deeds by a different stick, and be thumped for objecting to stupid socialistic schemes, is frankly, insane.

Then, you call racism, when reason is added to ensure understanding.

You know, the one wearing the hood, is you. If you could just cut in some eyeholes, perhaps it would help you see what you are NOT doing to help this candidate or even the cause for reconciliation.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-02   14:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A well educated, articulate, intelligent black man literally scares the hell out of many whites. That's why they keep making stuff up about Obama and pointing the racist finger at him. I haven't heard anything coming out of Black Liberation Theology that even compares to some of the really frightening crap coming from many of the better known white preachers. White racism appeals to the weak minded and under educated. Politician know how easily they are manipulated and controled by fear.

Arete  posted on  2008-05-02   15:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You know, the one wearing the hood, is you. If you could just cut in some eyeholes, perhaps it would help you see what you are NOT doing to help this candidate or even the cause for reconciliation.

Keeper Quote of the day!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-02   15:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A well educated, articulate, intelligent black man literally scares the hell out of many whites.

Bag the white guilt, Bub. I can't afford his domestic liberalism, and his foreign policy is to move troops from Iraq to Afghanistan along with billions in newly printed dollars from the Fed. And we dare oppose such genius on the grounds of his color? Show me instances. Your argument is as hollow as is his 'army' of newly registered voters who failed to show up for him last Tuesday in Pennsylvania. The bloom is off his rose, and even more delightful, it's off his wing of the National Party. They're about to choose him based on political correctness; if they rejected a black who has come this close, the black bloc would splinter off, perhaps forever. Hillary, Rendell and Ferraro are correct; she is the better candidate afa beating McCain and he is unelectable.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-02   15:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Keeper Quote of the day!!

Thank you..

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-02   15:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If all the candidates are the same then why are O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Fox News ONLY attacking Obama?

It is a very orchestrated and simultaneous attack. Make no mistake, there is a reason and the article by Justin Raimondo I pinged you to, explains it very well.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-05-02   15:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A well educated, articulate, intelligent black man literally scares the hell out of many whites.

Lie.

That's why they keep making stuff up about Obama and pointing the racist finger at him.

Lie. Using his own words is not making stuff up.. deal with it.

I haven't heard anything coming out of Black Liberation Theology that even compares to some of the really frightening crap coming from many of the better known white preachers.

Proof please. Is there a white reparations pastor advising one of the other candidates?

White racism appeals to the weak minded and under educated.

Ah but when 99% of blacks vote for blacks it's not racist is it?

What about racism and this open dialog that Obama called for, is more important than our country facing imminent collapse?

Politician know how easily they are manipulated and controled by fear.

And Obama is controlled by?????????????

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-02   15:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i hate the political game of saying what's politically expedient. maybe i'm being naive,

No one will get elected without playing at least some politics. And I'm sure if you were to examine presidentially races historically, you would find the same thing.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-05-02   15:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If all the candidates are the same then why are O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Fox News ONLY attacking Obama?

Real simple.

He's the leading D and they're Rs who want their branch of the National Party to win.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-02   15:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They're about to choose him based on political correctness; if they rejected a black who has come this close, the black bloc would splinter off, perhaps forever. Hillary, Rendell and Ferraro are correct; she is the better candidate afa beating McCain and he is unelectable.

Sad that we have 3 pathetic candidates that don't truly give a rip about anyone but themselves.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-02   15:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sad that we have 3 pathetic candidates

They are the latest, and by far the worst, product of the "lesser of evils" voting strategy. The Establishment is now comfortable offering us Moe, Larry and Curly, while the dip sticks among us actually try to convince folks there's a difference. The voting public wasn't spared in the national dumbing down process.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-02   15:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Bag the white guilt, Bub.

Oh I don't have any white guilt. What I do have is some up close and personal history of confronting racists and racism.

Arete  posted on  2008-05-02   15:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They are the latest, and by far the worst, product of the "lesser of evils" voting strategy. The Establishment is now comfortable offering us Moe, Larry and Curly, while the dip sticks among us actually try to convince folks there's a difference. The voting public wasn't spared in the national dumbing down process.

I can't even believe there is any effort to defend any one of these people. All the wasted time and effort. And why it has been perpetrated upon the folks here, is curious.

For what and by whom? To ensure the status quo wins again?

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-02   15:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What I do have is some up close and personal history of confronting racists and racism.

Well excuse me. How wonderful it must be to appoint yourself to such a lofty position. Liberalism is indeed a mental disorder.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-02   15:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Establishment relies on dupes, and given the political defense of Obama, their well isn't dry yet.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-02   15:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Establishment relies on dupes, and given the political defense of Obama, their well isn't dry yet.

bump that.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-02   16:04:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well excuse me. How wonderful it must be to appoint yourself to such a lofty position. Liberalism is indeed a mental disorder.

You have a habit of being completely wrong. I'm a conservate from the old school.

Arete  posted on  2008-05-02   16:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You have a habit of being completely wrong.

I'm never wrong about self appointed white racist hunters.

They all have two left feet when it comes to identifying black racism and white guilt.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-02   16:59:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm never wrong about self appointed white racist hunters.

Only in your own mind.

Arete  posted on  2008-05-02   17:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Still no evidence I see......

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-02   17:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You have a habit of being completely wrong. I'm a conservate from the old school.

Jethro...

I fell out of my hi chair on that one, that from a Wal mart greeter.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-02   17:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My blue vest damn near fell off too.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-02   17:16:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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