Title: BREAKING HARD: RON PAUL SUPPORTS OBAMA Source:
CNN URL Source:[None] Published:May 2, 2008 Author:CNN Post Date:2008-05-02 18:28:55 by a vast rightwing conspirator Keywords:None Views:8885 Comments:534
First, he told Blitz that he can't endorse McCain.
Then, Blitz asked him which one he prefers, of the 2 Demos. RP said that he picks Obama because he's slightly better which is EXACTLY what I've been saying for quite a while.
I doubt that very much, as the he was given choice was only between Obama and Clinton. Or are you merely suggesting he probably wishes he'd declined to answer?
Of course. He had more than one way to answer Blitz. But he explicitly stated that he can't support McCain and then he explicitly stated that he found Obama superior to Clinon. Well... who else is there?
Paul, a Texas congressman, said he will not back McCain if he is the party's nominee unless the Arizona senator "has a lot of change of heart."
"I cannot support anybody with the foreign policy he advocates, you know, perpetual war. That is just so disturbing to me," Paul said in a Monday telephone interview. "I think it's un-American, unconstitutional, immoral and not Republican."
"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
HE'S A SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT. THAT'S THE ISSUE FOR ME.
A large part of the opposition to Hitler consisted of Socialists, who formed the largest of the democratic groups in the Weimar Republic.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
When Queen Hillary I is crowned, it will be a lackey named Obama that will carry her train.
I kind of doubt that, I honestly believe there is bad blood between the two. I didn't used to, a few months ago, but I think Hillary has stooped so low recently that Obama would probably prefer to keep a little bit of his dignity (and voter base).
I could be wrong, of course.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dr. Paul chose the Democrat who is the most against the war in Iraq, the one most vilified by the GOP political machine, the one who is actually the most liberal. This tells me the level of importance that Dr. Paul places on getting us out of Iraq. And the response by the GOP political machine underscores their position on ME wars.
"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Just like JFK came out of the Boston political machine. (And was helped to the presidency by that very Chicago political machine -- and what was left of Tammany.)
The Boston machine? Isn't that, in fact, the Kennedy family? As for the help from Chicago, I hardly think gangsters teamsters stuffing ballot boxes qualifies as the sort of activity most people associate with representative government.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
One need not sufferr mean little cusses, with no valid arguments either.
Um, like this one?
Yes. the eevil men behind the curtain gathered .... and one genius suggested that they "select" an obscure black man from from inner city Chicago. All present leaped to their feet in cheers! The deal was done!
If this BS palaver prevails, I'm going into bridge selling immediately after the election.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
I see you don't like the forces that brought JFK to the White House. But they did manage to give us a president who was not a tool of the establishment.
If the worst that can be said of Obama is that he comes out of a similar political machine, maybe the same will be true of him.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
The three are puppets of the same masters. Obama as candidate ensures election of McKooK, meaning Obama is finished in presidential politics. Therefore it stands to reason he will take a swan dive when told to and accept a later and better chance to be president.
The last two time loser I recall was Stevenson and both "parties" learned from that.
Agreed, it's a no brainer given the choice between Obama and Clinton. But hasn't the GOP thrown a lot of dirt at her, too? I can't fault anyone for supporting Obama, it's just that I personally do not.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
A large part of the opposition to Hitler consisted of Socialists, who formed the largest of the democratic groups in the Weimar Republic.
Over a year ago, I and others here, admitted that we would gladly stand shoulder-to-shoulder with liberals at antiwar demonstrations. I have in fact done this in my community. And while at these events I've even spoken to the diverse crowd of liberals, Quakers, military moms, 9/11 Truthers, etc...about Ron Paul, the war, Israel, the ME, Iran etc.
"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Yes, it's difficult to avoid not talking about a "flub"(?) that is a total fabrication about being under sniper fire.
But unquestionably, since Ohio, Barack has taken by far the most flak from the media. To the point that they have had to search (no doubt for hours) for snippets of comments by mere associates, and nothing of substance about himself.
"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
If the worst that can be said of Obama is that he comes out of a similar political machine, maybe the same will be true of him.
No, what Christine said was the worst I'd say of him, but it's true that I'm not a big fan of machine politics.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Next debate: Senator Obama, why aren't you wearing a BIGGER flag pin?
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
The Chicago political machine and the Skull & Bones gang, huh.
Screw them both, I'll probably vote for Baldwin.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Now, THAT, my friend, would be a completely dishonest headline. It COMPLETELY distorts the fact that Ron Paul virtually endorsed Obama for U.S. president.
No! That would be the truth! You are a pigheaded lie spreading bushbot who bought into the bushkie lies and promises back in the 2000 election, a close friend of the idiot Medved and wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the ass.
Fruthermore you bought into bushkie's lying tactics to get us involved in the attack of Iraq. Guess you don't have enough sense to know that some of us haven't forgot your blind support of the little chimp.
Oh what a tangeled web we weave when we first practice to deceive. Medved is probably mighty proud of you for this lying thread title. What a fool you have made of yourself just like you did years ago on TOS.
no soft-shoeing off into the dreamworld of the Barr/Baldwin "debaters" here.
I'm not going to vote for someone I don't think represents my interests, nor will I be browbeat into silence. It's just that simple.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
HE'S A SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT. THAT'S THE ISSUE FOR ME. I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FIG ABOUT HIS COLOR OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT DEFINES HIS LEFTIST POLITICS. Exactly! Not to mention that he's a product of the Chicago political machine, a gang that could give Tammany Hall a run for their money.
"I would think the one who would most likely keep us from expanding the war is probably Obama, but that doesn't mean that's an endorsement....He would be slightly better on the foreign policy".
"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
I think it was a "Who would you rather have in your home, a person with severe acne or a deranged arsonist with a blowtorch and a head full of meth?" type question.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Where were you when I wrecked my Capri? It took six weeks to find a hood for that sucker.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
#230. To: Cynicom, vastrightwingconspirator (#191)(Edited)
i don't interpret that as expressing a preference. Only partisan sheep would see it as an endorsement. The sheep are being herded by one herder and two dogs.
Neither do I cyni. vast deliberately distorts the truth and or can't comprehend what Dr. Paul said. Maybe he has attention deficit disorder and we should all feel sorry for him.
It is obvious that the question was a loaded one and there is really no good answer to give to a loaded question.
I'd like to ask him a few questions and see if he distorts them also. One would be does he still believe Iraq had WMD at the time bushkie lied us into the Iraq war? The other question I would ask him is this. Are you ashamed to admit that you masterbate? Both require only a simple answer. Vast is a master at distortion and could probably distort the simple yes or no answers just like bushkie does.
"I would think the one who would most likely keep us from expanding the war is probably Obama, but that doesn't mean that's an endorsement....He would be slightly better on the foreign policy".
Wolf Blitzer asked him of the 3 which would he pick.
"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
I think it was a "Who would you rather have in your home, a person with severe acne or a deranged arsonist with a blowtorch and a head full of meth?" type question.
I believe there are a few folks on here--not to call any names--who would choose the meth head in your scenario. Admittedly, of the three there is NO good choice, in fact not what I would call a choice at all. But I just don't understand why people who CLAIMED to be for Ron Paul are now so strongly attached to Obama and the two of them couldn't be much different.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
That's why it's important that Obama choose a good running mate, like Jim Webb.
I really like jim Webb, I wish RP had past the torch to someone like him.
But Obama is a political creation formed and paid for by the same cabals W and most/all of
our presidents/presidential hopefuls since jfk assasination .For me his inclusion of Brzezinski
screams " the magic negro is a puppet" !!
In his 1970 piece Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era, Brzezinski argued that a coordinated policy among developed nations was necessary in order to counter global instability erupting from increasing economic inequality. Out of this thesis, Brzezinski co-founded the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller, serving as director from 1973 to 1976. The Trilateral Commission is a group of prominent political and business leaders and academics primarily from the United States, Western Europe and Japan. Its purpose is to strengthen relations among the three most industrially advanced regions of the free world. Brzezinski selected Georgia governor Jimmy Carter as a member. [edit] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski< /a>
As I stated earlier. One way to avoid personal attacks is to bozo the idiots whose contributions are so consistently and predictably uninteresting, nothing would be lost if they disappeared.
So, you just qualified for my bozo list and I can't think of any reason why I would take you off it at any time in the future. You are the third one so, can't even claim exclusivity or being at the top of the list, which you're not.
How bad can someone be who says this? Amid a firestorm over an initial working paper Messrs . Mearsheimer and Walt published last year on the Israel lobby, Mr. Brzezinski rose to their defense, even as he demurred on the question of whether he agreed with their central arguments. The authors, he wrote in the journal Foreign Policy, “have rendered a public service by initiating a much-needed public debate on the role of the Israel lobby’ in the shaping of U.S. foreign policy.”
"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
"I would think the one who would most likely keep us from expanding the war is probably Obama, but that doesn't mean that's an endorsement....He would be slightly better on the foreign policy".
Dr. Paul should have said none of the three, but that he would end the war if he were elected. Seems like the dumbing down process of the population in the us has been very successful.
The headline on this thread is completely false. A line in the movie All The Presidents Men has Carl Berstein and Bob Woodward arguing over a simple qestion that goes like this. If you walk up to a person and ask for directions, are you simply asking for directions or interrogating that person? Apparently vastwould have a problem giving the right answer.
But I just don't understand why people who CLAIMED to be for Ron Paul are now so strongly attached to Obama and the two of them couldn't be much different.
I take them at their word, they don't see third party candidates as having a chance, and Obama is the only one not preaching the gospel of more war.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
So, you just qualified for my bozo list and I can't think of any reason why I would take you off it at any time in the future. You are the third one so, can't even claim exclusivity or being at the top of the list, which you're not.
You mean I finally made the grade? That calls for a celebration.
Geeze, I' all broken up that you claim to have bozoed me. /sarcasm
But he explicitly stated that he can't support McCain and then he explicitly stated that he found Obama superior to Clinton
boy, talk about twisting Ron Paul's words.
"even Barack Obama has VOTED to support the war and the spending...you have to give McCain some credit...at least he's honest about it....it would be a tough choice because i see them all as about the same.....i would think the one most likely to keep us from expanding the wars is obama, but that doesn't mean it's an endorsement because he'd spend the money somewhere else but his voting record isn't all that great, but you asked me the question and i would say he might be slightly better on the foreign policy..." ~Ron Paul