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Title: BREAKING HARD: RON PAUL SUPPORTS OBAMA
Source: CNN
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Published: May 2, 2008
Author: CNN
Post Date: 2008-05-02 18:28:55 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 8387
Comments: 534

First, he told Blitz that he can't endorse McCain.

Then, Blitz asked him which one he prefers, of the 2 Demos. RP said that he picks Obama because he's slightly better which is EXACTLY what I've been saying for quite a while.

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#29. To: robin (#17)

Isn't the lesser of 3 evils what we've been saying here?

Not me.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-02   19:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#25)

Are you calling RP senile?

It's either that or this election campaign business has torched him ... Obama ain't said shit about shit ... so those falling all over themselves should admit that they like following for the sheer pleasure of following.

I wouldn't call Bush or McCain.

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."

"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

Thomas Jefferson

noone222  posted on  2008-05-02   19:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#7)

It's strange that he didn't mention Barr.

He said one windmill tilt per campaign was enough.

But it was edited out.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-02   19:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: iconoclast (#27)

As you reach for your Rolaids? ;-)

No, it's funny as hell to watch you folks grovel for RP votes.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-02   19:42:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: iconoclast (#29)

He's not Ron Paul. But Obama will get us out of Iraq, I believe. Plus he doesn't use the word "obliterate" when it comes to Iran.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-05-02   19:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: farmfriend (#14)

Exactly! I won't vote for McHillobama!

Excellent!

Because we all know where your vote absolutely would not go.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-02   19:44:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: noone222 (#30) (Edited)

Are you calling RP senile?

It's either that or this election campaign business has torched him ... Obama ain't said shit about shit ... so those falling all over themselves should admit that they like following for the sheer pleasure of following.

No one is following anyone. The problem we're facing now is not picking the proper 'leader' to 'follow' but to prevent those who would be digging us even deeper into the hole from being in the position of digging us even deeper into the hole. That's why Ron Paul is supporting Obama.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-02   19:48:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

For those who insist that voting is some civic duty, how is Obama better than Barr or Baldwin?

Better? I wish they could show me how he is even fit to tie Baldwin's shoes! And if Barr has gotten it through his head that the choices people make about what they inject and ingest into their own bodies is their own business--absent subsequently harming others and they can be punished for the actual harm they do, not what they "might do"--they can't show Obama is as good as him either.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-02   19:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#35)

That's why Ron Paul is supporting Obama

You're goofy ... he thought Blitzer said "OSAMA" !

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."

"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

Thomas Jefferson

noone222  posted on  2008-05-02   19:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Peppa (#32)

No, it's funny as hell to watch you folks grovel for RP votes.

Ron Paul is to Obama as Iraq is to 9/11. If you repeat it enough times, no matter how unrelated they are, in the same sentence then soon people will draw a connection between the two.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-05-02   19:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#35)

The problem we're facing now is not picking the proper 'leader'

That's a non-problem in my world. They're all shit eating parasites and deserve what I give them ... not a fucking thing !

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."

"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

Thomas Jefferson

noone222  posted on  2008-05-02   19:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Then, Blitz asked him which one he prefers, of the 2 Demos. RP said that he picks Obama because he's slightly better which is EXACTLY what I've been saying for quite a while.

Howdy part'ner.

Them thar's fightin' words in these parts....

Just thought ye oughtta know...

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-02   19:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#38)

Ron Paul is to Obama as Iraq is to 9/11. If you repeat it enough times, no matter how unrelated they are, in the same sentence then soon people will draw a connection between the two.

HA!!!!

It will not work. But for all the bashing the stealth crew did to RP, to try and AGAIN browbeat them to Opharma will not work.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-02   19:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#35)

That's why Ron Paul is supporting Obama.

Do you mean like child support. That's nothing new. White people have been supporting blacks for 400 years. I hear Obama is half white. Is this an attack on Dr. Pauls integrity and marriage ? You scumbag !

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."

"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

Thomas Jefferson

noone222  posted on  2008-05-02   20:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: robin, ALL (#33)

"even Barack Obama has VOTED to support the war and the spending...you have to give McCain some credit...at least he's honest about it." RP

christine  posted on  2008-05-02   20:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: robin (#33)

He's not Ron Paul. But Obama will get us out of Iraq, I believe. Plus he doesn't use the word "obliterate" when it comes to Iran.

The hysteria here, and on other forums, over the possibility of Obama's election is stunning.

The insincerity of the Obama protesters is palpable ... the hyper protest arises from one and only one reality ... and it ain't "elitism".

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-02   20:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Pinguinite (#40)

Howdy part'ner.

Them thar's fightin' words in these parts....

Just thought ye oughtta know...

Cowboy speak from a guy who'd trade off our 2nd Amendment for a politician's promise of global peace?

Still on your journey to the hard left?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-02   20:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Your title is Bullshit. You say in your own post that he was asked who of the two democrats he preferred. He said Obama. That is a far cry from making the claim that Rep. Paul supports Obama for president as your title implies

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-05-02   20:08:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: noone222 (#42)

Do you mean like child support. That's nothing new. White people have been supporting blacks for 400 years. I hear Obama is half white.

Good for you no one.

At least you've got the balls to leave your sheet on the bed.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-02   20:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: RickyJ (#12)

"Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent."


"If I may quote Trotsky of all people..." ~ Ron Paul 2008

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FOH  posted on  2008-05-02   20:12:05 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: iconoclast (#44)

The hysteria here, and on other forums, over the possibility of Obama's election is stunning.

I must agree. I never would have dreamed that this election season would brought this kind of divisiveness to 4um. Can't say I've avoided partaking it it either, albeit somewhat indirectly.

The insincerity of the Obama protesters is palpable ... the hyper protest arises from one and only one reality ... and it ain't "elitism".

The people to object to some preference to Obama over the other two also seem to claim that all 3 candidates are the same. That's not too bad but then they get rather hotheaded about it and some start flinging the "commie" and "white guilt" term around.

I mean, if they really are all the same, what difference does it make? One of the 3 will win.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-02   20:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jethro Tull (#45)

Cowboy speak from a guy who'd trade off our 2nd Amendment for a politician's promise of global peace?

Real cowboys don't go shootin' innocent girls for the "greater good". ...one "sacrifice" you are already on record as being willing to make.

That's ain't my definition of a 2nd Amendment.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-02   20:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Hayek Fan (#46)

Your title is Bullshit. You say in your own post that he was asked who of the two democrats he preferred. He said Obama. That is a far cry from making the claim that Rep. Paul supports Obama for president as your title implies


FOH  posted on  2008-05-02   20:17:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: christine (#43)

He's referring to the vote to continue sending funds for equipment for the troops. What would a presidential candidate look like who does not support the troops once deployed overseas? Ron Paul's position on this probably cost him votes. Yes, we want out of Iraq. No we do not want our troops to be without what they need.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-05-02   20:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: All (#48)

Obama/Paul '08


FOH  posted on  2008-05-02   20:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: iconoclast (#44)

The hysteria here, and on other forums, over the possibility of Obama's election is stunning.

It is. Ron Paul just said Obama is "slightly better" than Hillary. Good, and that's a true statement.

A McCain WH is likely to make me hysterical.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-05-02   20:21:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Pinguinite (#49)

I mean, if they really are all the same, what difference does it make?

That is what I have been wondering. I think most of us who have made a couple of trips around the block know that the establishment is happy enough with any one of those three. Knowing that, why would anyone believe there is all that much difference in them (other than the obvious racial and gender differences)?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-02   20:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: FOH (#53)

Obama/Paul '08

I hear SouthPark need a new Kenny......;)

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-02   20:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: robin (#54)

A McCain WH is likely to make me hysterical.

On this we agree !

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."

"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

Thomas Jefferson

noone222  posted on  2008-05-02   20:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: James Deffenbach (#55)

facts and sound logic will be of no value to you here...you've entered the obamazone


FOH  posted on  2008-05-02   20:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: noone222 (#57)

A McCain WH is likely to make me hysterical.

On this we agree !

Very good! :)

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-05-02   20:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Peppa (#56)


FOH  posted on  2008-05-02   20:24:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: FOH (#58)

facts and sound logic will be of no value to you here...you've entered the obamazone

Distressing, ain't it?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-02   20:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: James Deffenbach (#55)

That is what I have been wondering. I think most of us who have made a couple of trips around the block know that the establishment is happy enough with any one of those three. Knowing that, why would anyone believe there is all that much difference in them (other than the obvious racial and gender differences)?

Why not use race to elevate the Far Lefty Liberal Marxist Gun Grabbing Establishment selection up to the point of social upheaval !?

This was, as always, a set up by the CFR on both sides.

That we see obamanation going on is like taking a blunt instrument and clubbing the last freedom puppy to death with it . . .


FOH  posted on  2008-05-02   20:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#6)

He was careful to say that it's not 'an endorsement' (

Then why did you put up a title that is a lie? Just like bush/cheney and the rest of the neocons.

I'll excuse you if you claim you can't read or that you have attention deficit disorder.

LACUMO  posted on  2008-05-02   20:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: FOH (#62)

Why not use race to elevate the Far Lefty Liberal Marxist Gun Grabbing Establishment selection up to the point of social upheaval !?

This was, as always, a set up by the CFR on both sides.

That we see obamanation going on is like taking a blunt instrument and clubbing the last freedom puppy to death with it . . .

So, if I understand it you think maybe we should figure out--how exactly I am not sure--which one is the worst and vote for that one so we can just go ahead and get it over with? You might be surprised how many people think that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-02   20:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: iconoclast (#44)

The insincerity of the Obama protesters is palpable ... the hyper protest arises from one and only one reality ... and it ain't "elitism".

And what pray tell is that reality? Is everyone who doesn't vote for Obama now going to be called a racist? Whooptie-do.

I'm not voting for Obama because I don't vote for central planning collectivists. I have never voted for a central planning collectivist and I never will. On top of that, I believe Obama is a made member of the two party fraud, along with his two partners in crime, Hillary and McCain. Because he is a member of the two party fraud, I do not believe Obama will bring the troops home. I believe it to be an election ploy. If this makes me a racist, then so be it. I will vote for whoever the LP candidate is unless Chuck Baldwin is on the ballot in my state. I've always liked him. I'm through giving a rat's ass about who other people vote for.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2008-05-02   20:34:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: robin (#33)

He's not Ron Paul.

The Revolution was a lovely dream and I chucked a few bucks at it and touted it loudly here.

But it's nut cutting time now and past time to get serious about the next four years.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-02   20:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Congratulations VRWC!! you win the pissing contest.

I'm glad Paul said that. He's a patriot.

I don't like Obama, but the others are worse (I think).

If Obama's name is on the ballot in November I might actually vote for him.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-05-02   20:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: LACUMO (#63)

He posted what he heard on live television. It's easy to miss a sentence or two. After I posted the video, he realized he overstated what Dr. Paul said and corrected it in the posts that followed.

“President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years,” “Maybe a hundred ... ... that’d be fine with me,” McCain responds
Hillary: "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran in the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."

robin  posted on  2008-05-02   20:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: FOH (#60)

ROFL!!!! Poor Kenny.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-02   20:37:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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