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Title: BREAKING HARD: RON PAUL SUPPORTS OBAMA
Source: CNN
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Published: May 2, 2008
Author: CNN
Post Date: 2008-05-02 18:28:55 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 8484
Comments: 534

First, he told Blitz that he can't endorse McCain.

Then, Blitz asked him which one he prefers, of the 2 Demos. RP said that he picks Obama because he's slightly better which is EXACTLY what I've been saying for quite a while.

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#492. To: Dakmar (#488)

Not trying to be contrary

OK, I understand...but, the people at these conventions pretend they play by the rules, and they are on public display.

CadetD  posted on  2008-05-03   21:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#493. To: Peppa (#489)

begging for your vote

who's gonna be begging?

CadetD  posted on  2008-05-03   21:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#494. To: CadetD (#492)

the people at these conventions pretend they play by the rules, and they are on public display.

That's the main reason I dropped out of Ron Paul meetup group - I can't imagine going to state GOP convention whistling old Peter Gabriel tunes and meaning it. Yet I'd feel compelled.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-03   21:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#495. To: CadetD (#493)

who's gonna be begging?

Or they'll flog you... it's the browbeating for votes brigade. I don't think it's working.

If you don't vote for Obama, then you might as well pick up your hood. However, I read today, Obama is technically an Arab-American. Since we are relying on math. So, I'm not sure what our new outfit will be.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-03   21:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#496. To: Peppa (#495)

it's the browbeating for votes brigade. I don't think it's working.

Send me some money and grilled cheese sammiches or I'll say you hate kittens!

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-03   21:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#497. To: Dakmar (#494)

whistling old Peter Gabriel tunes

I don't whistle any tunes. I'm one of the most cynical people you'd ever meet. But, feel getting RP's message front-and-center is worth doing.

CadetD  posted on  2008-05-03   21:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#498. To: Peppa (#495)

If you don't vote for Obama

Obama is a Marxist...his candidacy is a non-issue for me.

CadetD  posted on  2008-05-03   21:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#499. To: Dakmar (#496)

Send me some money and grilled cheese sammiches or I'll say you hate kittens!

No no nooooooo.. say I EAT live kittens.

Then, you got a deal.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-03   21:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#500. To: CadetD (#497)

I'm actually a pretty peaceful guy, but I know joining GOP would not bode well for me.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-03   21:34:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#501. To: CadetD (#498)

Obama is a Marxist...his candidacy is a non-issue for me.

Is for me too.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-03   21:34:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#502. To: Dakmar (#500)

joining GOP

Yeah, I hate the idea of having joined the GOP, but it's just more BS to get the job done. I have NOT joined those neo-cons.

CadetD  posted on  2008-05-03   21:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#503. To: Peppa (#499)

No no nooooooo.. say I EAT live kittens.

Then, you got a deal.

If I wanted to lie that much I might as well join an organized political party. Or sell Amway.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-03   21:38:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#504. To: Dakmar (#503)

If I wanted to lie that much I might as well join an organized political party. Or sell Amway.

LOL!!

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-03   21:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#505. To: CadetD (#502)

Yeah, I hate the idea of having joined the GOP, but it's just more BS to get the job done.

I won't fault anyone for doing so, it's only way Ron Paul can win, but it's not something I can do. I'd power vomit and break things, just wouldn't go over well with rank and file members.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-03   21:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#506. To: Dakmar (#505)

Power vomit

Know what you mean...it's going to be difficult for me to be civil in their presence, but I'll manage.

CadetD  posted on  2008-05-03   21:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#507. To: CadetD (#506)

it's going to be difficult for me to be civil in their presence, but I'll manage.

Someone needs to, thanks for trying.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-03   21:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#508. To: iconoclast, rivergal, all (#469)

In summary, I think we need to take each and every fellow American as we find them, the good and the bad ... without predisposition to judgment.

I know that we are where we are, in our country, and I don't know your age, but don't you think that most was better pre the Great Society?

Lod  posted on  2008-05-03   21:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#509. To: Dakmar (#507)

Someone needs to

I was in a chat-room this afternoon with a man who is a parliamentarian, coaching RP delegates how to conduct selves at conventions, and what the Roberts Rules are. Knowledge of how the meetings are to be conducted is an ace for those in-the-know. RP delegates are more informed and discipined than any others, and thus---we can accomplish much, and we will.

CadetD  posted on  2008-05-03   21:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#510. To: iconoclast (#471)

Come see me and and bring your wife and we'll go to a local black and tan pub or two (with a somewhat more "mature" clientèle") and you'll find performers you can relate to.

Thanks so much for the invite - but with health, and travel constraints, we'll have to ask you guys to join us down here.

Cheers, and thanks, Icon.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-03   21:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#511. To: lodwick (#508)

but don't you think that most was better pre the Great Society?

I think we're better off, Grace Slick never would have hooked up with Paul Kantner had Great Society had a hit record.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-03   21:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#512. To: iconoclast (#471)

and you'll find performers you can relate to.

Still trying to hook folks up with sword swallowers?

Are you a Buckeye or a Buckwheat?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-03   21:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#513. To: CadetD (#483)

This whole thread is a total waste of time, IMHO.

Agreed on that part, and inspired by your optimism.

buckeye  posted on  2008-05-03   21:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#514. To: CadetD (#509)

I was in a chat-room this afternoon with a man who is a parliamentarian, coaching RP delegates how to conduct selves at conventions, and what the Roberts Rules are. Knowledge of how the meetings are to be conducted is an ace for those in-the-know. RP delegates are more informed and discipined than any others, and thus---we can accomplish much, and we will.

Again, that's great, but I'd probably be scheming to dose them, Grateful Dead style. On the other hand, a few minutes of McCain singing White Rabbit on TV might garner more than a few votes for Chuck Baldwin. Count me in! :)

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-03   22:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#515. To: Dakmar (#514)

scheming to dose them

Don't take so many drugs

CadetD  posted on  2008-05-03   22:05:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#516. To: CadetD (#515)

Don't take so many drugs

Yeah, If I stayed sober it would be much easier to dose the delegates!

That's not what you meant? :)

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-05-03   22:17:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#517. To: Dakmar (#516)

being sober is for idiots. I hope you finished that fifth.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-05-03   22:56:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#518. To: Cynicom (#468) (Edited)

Long ago you painted a portrait of yourself here on 4um. It has not changed. Everyone saw it. It is still there.

Whatever... your remarks are unimportant because this thread is not about me but about Dr. Paul calling Dr. McCain 'unsupportable' and declaring Dr. Obama superior to Dr. Hillary.

Your fantasies about my self-portrait' have nothing to do with this explosive and important development or with the socially-accepted version of reality.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-04   7:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#519. To: lodwick (#508)

I know that we are where we are, in our country, and I don't know your age, but don't you think that most was better pre the Great Society?

You hit it out of the park there, lodwick.

IMO, LBJ is the only Prez in our history who challenges GWB for worst ever. He set the Black culture and community back a hundred years with his misguided policies. He will forever be the personification of "white guilt", the label some attempt to slap on me.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-04   8:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#520. To: lodwick (#508)

I don't know your age

I'm 72 and loved the '50's. ;-)

And to underline the sad (fear filled) state to which our nation has sunk, our kids think we are nuts to still occasionally be going to these bistros to hear some good music.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-04   8:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#521. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#518)

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explosive and important development

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-04   9:00:03 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#522. To: James Deffenbach (#521)

Isn't he supposed to be wearing a burka?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-04   10:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#523. To: James Deffenbach (#439)

are quoting robin in your post to me.

I did not mean to imply you said it...just providing some continuity. However, I certainly would have issued a disclaimer as well. I appreciate your comments.

angle  posted on  2008-05-04   11:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#524. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#522)

Isn't he supposed to be wearing a burka?

It seems the empty suit fits him pretty well.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-04   11:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#525. To: angle (#523)

I did not mean to imply you said it...just providing some continuity. However, I certainly would have issued a disclaimer as well. I appreciate your comments.

Thank you.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-04   11:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#526. To: James Deffenbach (#524)

I found this:


Typical Obama voters, having fun in the sun.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-05-04   11:28:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#527. To: Jethro Tull (#137)

They were created by the American government. Agree?

No doubt about it.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2008-05-06   9:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#528. To: noone222, christine (#21)

This is as good as an endorsement from someone still running for the same job.

You're over-dosing on goofy pills ... besides, he's senile.

Why he even answered the question is beyond me. He should have known it would start a mass circle jerk amongst the Obamabots. (Endorsement my ass. LMFAO!)

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-05-06   9:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#529. To: Cynicom, castletrash (#147)

His very mention of Obama was a stupid move. Did you forget Paul took a dive and got political religion all of a sudden????

After that, anything he has to say for public consumption is suspect.

BTTT

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-05-06   9:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#530. To: Arator (#527)

yes, Al quaeda is likely a CIA creation. and Obama's statements that he is hot on the 'war on terror' and wants to expand operations in pakistan indicates that he just doesn't get it or worse yet is a willing puppet of evil. Also, that Obama wants to expand the ethanol subsidies and thus kill millions of people through starvation indicates to me the man is no different from his opponents.

However, Robin made a very strong & logical case that Obama was differentiating himself. She did it in a very civil manner using links showing Obama's speeches & stances on issues. Obama has changed his web site in the last month/6 weeks to say that he will withdraw all troops from Iraq within 16 months and leave only enough to protect the embassy. When he says he'll leave enough to protect the embassy this seeems like a weasel phrase to me and discounts his promise. But he is the only one of the 3 who even hints at a withdrawal. and so Robin's case to support him was a very strong one IMHO.

But people greeted Robin with contempt and persistent insults over this. and so Robin bozo'd them. She bozo'd 14. That was judged to be too many. and she was limited to 10. Then she quit the forum.

she posted a lot of articles and was always ready with links and info to make her comments worthwhile.

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-05-06   9:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#531. To: Arator (#527)

So if al-Qaida is a creation of the US government, why would Obama redeploy troops from Iraq to the Afghanistan-Pakistan border to fight them?

Obama: Shift Troops to Fight al-Qaida

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OELWEIN, Iowa - The U.S. should shift troops from Iraq to pursue al- Qaida along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Saturday.

He said President Bush's war-fighting policies have left the United States at greater risk from terrorists. The first-term Illinois senator said decisions by the Republican president had allowed Osama bin Laden and his deputies to elude capture.

"We cannot win a war against the terrorists if we're on the wrong battlefield," Obama said. "America must urgently begin deploying from Iraq and take the fight more effectively to the enemy's home by destroying al-Qaida's leadership along the Afghan-Pakistan border, eliminating their command and control networks and disrupting their funding."

Obama spoke during his 15th trip to Iowa, where precinct caucuses set for January begin the presidential nominating process. He opened his day with a rally on the shores of a lake in Oelwein before his later stops.

The senator focused on the threat of terrorism just days after a new U.S. intelligence assessment warned that al-Qaida has succeeded in rebuilding its strength.

"What I would say is that as a consequence of bad decisions we are more at risk and less safe than we should have been at this point, given all the resources we have spent and the U.S. lives that have been lost," Obama said.

Obama contended the Bush administration erred by choosing to fight in Iraq rather than concentrating on Afghanistan, where he said al-Qaida has rebuilt itself.

"They have entirely regrouped along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border," Obama said. "The threat of terrorism has actually increased and we've seen a massive spike in terrorist activity, in part because we did not finish the job in Afghanistan and were distracted by a war of choice in Iraq."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-06   20:23:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#532. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

Comments?

You are a liar. What else is new.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-05-06   20:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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