Title: BREAKING HARD: RON PAUL SUPPORTS OBAMA Source:
CNN URL Source:[None] Published:May 2, 2008 Author:CNN Post Date:2008-05-02 18:28:55 by a vast rightwing conspirator Keywords:None Views:8560 Comments:534
First, he told Blitz that he can't endorse McCain.
Then, Blitz asked him which one he prefers, of the 2 Demos. RP said that he picks Obama because he's slightly better which is EXACTLY what I've been saying for quite a while.
The hysteria here, and on other forums, over the possibility of Obama's election is stunning.
I must agree. I never would have dreamed that this election season would brought this kind of divisiveness to 4um. Can't say I've avoided partaking it it either, albeit somewhat indirectly.
The insincerity of the Obama protesters is palpable ... the hyper protest arises from one and only one reality ... and it ain't "elitism".
The people to object to some preference to Obama over the other two also seem to claim that all 3 candidates are the same. That's not too bad but then they get rather hotheaded about it and some start flinging the "commie" and "white guilt" term around.
I mean, if they really are all the same, what difference does it make? One of the 3 will win.
The hysteria here, and on other forums, over the possibility of Obama's election is stunning. (iconoclast) I must agree. I never would have dreamed that this election season would brought this kind of divisiveness to 4um. Can't say I've avoided partaking it it either, albeit somewhat indirectly. (Neil)
the issue is this. we all thought we were united on the two party fraud and that partaking in it by supporting one of the establishment selections was an endorsement and acknowledgment to them that we want more of the same. we've found out that's not the case. that's what's caused the dissention.
we all thought we were united on the two party fraud and that partaking in it by supporting one of the establishment selections was an endorsement and acknowledgment to them that we want more of the same.
Yes. the eevil men behind the curtain gathered .... and one genius suggested that they "select" an obscure black man from from inner city Chicago. All present leaped to their feet in cheers! The deal was done!
If this BS palaver prevails, I'm going into bridge selling immediately after the election.
and one genius suggested that they "select" an obscure black man from from inner city Chicago.
why do you keep bringing up his race??? i said nothing whatsoever about his race.
HE'S A SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT. THAT'S THE ISSUE FOR ME. I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FIG ABOUT HIS COLOR OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT DEFINES HIS LEFTIST POLITICS.
A large part of the opposition to Hitler consisted of Socialists, who formed the largest of the democratic groups in the Weimar Republic.
Over a year ago, I and others here, admitted that we would gladly stand shoulder-to-shoulder with liberals at antiwar demonstrations. I have in fact done this in my community. And while at these events I've even spoken to the diverse crowd of liberals, Quakers, military moms, 9/11 Truthers, etc...about Ron Paul, the war, Israel, the ME, Iran etc.
I don't remember saying I would "likely be a Democrat", but I don't doubt I said that the Democratic platform's position on abortion was one I found untenable. Abortion is one big reason I am not a Democrat, and have never voted Democrat, but not the only reason.
Too bad McCain finds bombing babies and pregnant women so easy, what's the difference?
I don't remember saying I would "likely be a Democrat", but I don't doubt I said that the Democratic platform's position on abortion was one I found untenable. Abortion is one big reason I am not a Democrat, and have never voted Democrat, but not the only reason.
Too bad McCain finds bombing babies and pregnant women so easy, what's the difference?
And it's too bad that the man you support sees nothing wrong with partial birth abortion, one of the most horrendous and inhumane practices ever devised to kill the innocent.
As I was just explaining to Old Friend on another thread...
Obama is not for killing babies in the womb, like Red China, where abortions are forced on women who do not want them.
Rather, Obama believes such decisions are best left up to to the pregnant women. This is supported by many who have bumper stickers like "Keep your hands off my body".
I would like to see laws against abortion, but after voting for pro-life candidates my entire voting life I have not seen any yet.
McCain chooses to bomb babies and pregnant women, perhaps for the next 100 years. This "collateral damage" would be fine with him.
As I was just explaining to Old Friend on another thread...
Obama is not for killing babies in the womb,
Obama thinks it is ok to kill them AFTER THEY ARE BORN FOR GOODNESS SAKES! Here is a comment from someone on that article I linked to which I imagine you must have been too busy to read--guess making up all those Obama signs and whatnot takes up too much of the day to actually read anything about the guy you are touting for president.
"Obama is pro-choice which means that he's in favor of abortions being legal. His views on partial birth abortions are NOT a pro-life/choice issue. In 2002 President Bush was able to sign BAIPA (Born Alive Infant Protection Act) into law due to the fact that the federal senators passed it was a unanimous vote. Senators Kennedy, Kerry and Clinton all agreed that a mother's right to choose stops at the birth of her baby. Obama disagreed. His reason was that he didn't think it was right to burden a mother with a child she intended to abort. From a pro-choice standpoint, there is something fundamentally scary about a person who can't differentiate between killing a fetus while in the womb and killing a newborn baby that's breathing outside of the womb. His pro-choice stand on abortion makes him seem very left but he's not. Barack Obama is pro-genocide and not even pro-choice people can argue this fact."
I have already read his position on abortion (and post-birth abortion) and I find it appalling. This is one reason I am not a Democrat. Sadly, I no longer have a reason to vote GOP either, since the warmonger McCain has been selected. When I say I find Obama the lesser of 3 evils that's just what I mean.
I do not have nor ever have had any Obama signs, nor have I ever made any.
I guess you cannot support your argument on this thread, so you have resorted to these tactics.
Let me remind you again that it is the choice of women and their doctors to perform this procedure. No one is forcing them to kill innocent babies like they do in Red China.
I guess you cannot support your argument on this thread, so you have resorted to these tactics.
Let me remind you again that it is the choice of women and their doctors to perform this procedure. No one is forcing them to kill innocent babies like they do in Red China.
Oh, I don't think I have had any problem supporting my arguments. I actually bothered to look up your heroe's stand on partial birth abortion and give you a link to it but it appeared I wasted my time.
And let me remind you, yet again, that Obama cares less about a human infant than most of us do a puppy. He is worthless scum.
I have never called Obama my "hero". Again you show little respect for the truth.
You were totally unsuccessful in proving that Ron Paul did not pick Obama from the 3 when asked by Blitzer.
uh huh. No, Obama isn't your hero but he is SO FAR SUPERIOR to the other two scumbags, right? Yeah, that must be it.
As for Ron picking him or not picking him he plainly stated that what he said was not--repeat NOT--an endorsement. But you people who love Obama so much can't believe that a "non endorsement" is not an endorsement.
I never said Obama is "SO FAR SUPERIOR". I very clearly have stated on a number of threads, including this one, that I find him the lesser of 3 evils.
What is your problem with the truth? Vast may have chosen the wrong word in the title when he started this thread (and I explained why), but you deliberately go out of your way to just plain LIE about what I have posted on this forum.
I never said Obama is "SO FAR SUPERIOR". I very clearly have stated on a number of threads, including this one, that I find him the lesser of 3 evils.
What is your problem with the truth? Vast may have chosen the wrong word in the title when he started this thread (and I explained why), but you deliberately go out of your way to just plain LIE about what I have posted on this forum.
I never SAID that you said that. But your continual cheerleading would lead one with any cognitive ability to believe that you indeed think that. And I have no problem with the truth. I have not lied about you or anyone else nor do I need to. Your support of a genocidal freak should tell anyone all they need to know about you. That and the fact that there is so little (if any) difference between the genocidal freak you support and the other two that everyone is yammering about.
You have certainly misquoted me, made entire phrases up and applied them to me. What would you call it?
Ron Paul found Obama's foreign policy different from Hillary's and McCain's and so do I.
I have made what seemed to be logical inferences from what you have said in your own posts. At no time have I lied about you or your position. Ron Paul found some slight difference in what Obama CLAIMS his position is relative to Clinton and McCain. In the end all three bow to the same masters and I am pretty sure Ron knows that. He never has struck me as a stupid man so I don't think he has become that stupid or senile.
Ron Paul found Obama's foreign policy different from Hillary's and McCain's and so do I.
But certainly and explicitly DID NOT ENDORSE him.
angle, I think you are quoting robin in your post to me. I don't find enough difference in Obama, Clinton or McCain to bother going to the polls assuming they were the only alleged "choice" I had. But you are correct, Ron most certainly did NOT endorse Obama and I thought that should be clear enough to anyone whose first language was English.
I did not mean to imply you said it...just providing some continuity. However, I certainly would have issued a disclaimer as well. I appreciate your comments.
I did not mean to imply you said it...just providing some continuity. However, I certainly would have issued a disclaimer as well. I appreciate your comments.