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Title: Fox News Morans Think Lincoln Debated Emancipated Slave
Source: Wonkette
URL Source: http://wonkette.com/385648/fox-news ... coln-debated-emancipated-slave
Published: May 2, 2008
Author: Wonkette
Post Date: 2008-05-02 21:52:45 by robin
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Fox News Morans Think Lincoln Debated Emancipated Slave



So a couple days ago on Fox and Friends they were talking about Hillary Clinton challenging Barack Obama to a "Lincoln-Douglas debate." They referred, of course, to the grueling series of seven three-hour debates held in 1858 between Illinois senatorial candidates Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas, who was a shrimpy pro-slavery jackass. But those silly graphical artists at Fox thought the Douglas in question was Frederick Douglass, the former slave and abolitionist who basically agreed with Lincoln even if Lincoln had to hedge a bit to get elected! The point is, Hillary Clinton wants 21 more hours of debates which is why she must be stopped.

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They referred, of course, to the grueling series of seven three-hour debates held in 1858 between Illinois senatorial candidates Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas, who was a shrimpy pro-slavery jackass. But those silly graphical artists at Fox thought the Douglas in question was Frederick Douglass, the former slave and abolitionist who basically agreed with Lincoln even if Lincoln had to hedge a bit to get elected!

Stephen Douglas, the shrimpy pro-slavery jackass, won the election. The Lincoln-Douglas debates occurred as part of the Senate race in Illinois.

As for the 15,000 or so books mythologizing Lincoln as some sort of messiah of the black man, none is written by a black man. For the opinion of Frederick Douglass, the following may temper the mythology:

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?documentprint=39

Oration in Memory of Abraham Lincoln

Frederick Douglass April 14, 1876 Delivered at the Unveiling of The Freedmen’s Monument in Memory of Abraham Lincoln Lincoln Park, Washington, D.C.

Friends and Fellow-Citizens:

* * *

Fellow-citizens, in what we have said and done today, and in what we may say and do hereafter, we disclaim everything like arrogance and assumption. We claim for ourselves no superior devotion to the character, history, and memory of the illustrious name whose monument we have here dedicated today. We fully comprehend the relation of Abraham Lincoln both to ourselves and to the white people of the United States. Truth is proper and beautiful at all times and in all places, and it is never more proper and beautiful in any case than when speaking of a great public man whose example is likely to be commended for honor and imitation long after his departure to the solemn shades, the silent continents of eternity. It must be admitted, truth compels me to admit, even here in the presence of the monument we have erected to his memory, Abraham Lincoln was not, in the fullest sense of the word, either our man or our model. In his interests, in his associations, in his habits of thought, and in his prejudices, he was a white man.

He was preeminently the white man’s President, entirely devoted to the welfare of white men. He was ready and willing at any time during the first years of his administration to deny, postpone, and sacrifice the rights of humanity in the colored people to promote the welfare of the white people of this country. In all his education and feeling he was an American of the Americans. He came into the Presidential chair upon one principle alone, namely, opposition to the extension of slavery. His arguments in furtherance of this policy had their motive and mainspring in his patriotic devotion to the interests of his own race. To protect, defend, and perpetuate slavery in the states where it existed Abraham Lincoln was not less ready than any other President to draw the sword of the nation. He was ready to execute all the supposed guarantees of the United States Constitution in favor of the slave system anywhere inside the slave states. He was willing to pursue, recapture, and send back the fugitive slave to his master, and to suppress a slave rising for liberty, though his guilty master were already in arms against the Government. The race to which we belong were not the special objects of his consideration.

Perhaps Douglass was less than enthusiastic about some of the words that came out of Lincoln's mouth.

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