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Title: Another McGaffe: McCain admits we're in Iraq for Oil
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzwboGFXrVg
Published: May 2, 2008
Author: McCain
Post Date: 2008-05-02 23:04:43 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 1677
Comments: 32

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#4. To: robin (#0)

He said it and he is stuck with it. Here is the Keith Olbermann/Countdown coverage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehmRJZp1TY8

McCain Admits: The War is for Oil in Iraq?
Run time: 05:39
Countdown: Keith Olbermann

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-03   3:40:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nolu_chan, robin, all (#4)

I fear that a McKook presidency would be totally horrific.

Lod  posted on  2008-05-03   12:22:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lodwick (#6)

I wish I could be certain that we are all in agreement on that one, but I fear not.

robin  posted on  2008-05-03   12:25:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#7)

I wish I could be certain that we are all in agreement on that one, but I fear not.

Obama would be horrific too. He is even for killing babies in the womb. I hope we could all agree on that but I don't think we can.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-03   12:27:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Old Friend (#8)

Obama is not "for killing babies in the womb", like Red China, where abortions are forced on women who do not want them.

Rather, Obama believes such decisions are best left up to to the pregnant women. This is supported by many who have bumper stickers like "Keep your hands off my body".

I would like to see laws against abortion, but after voting for pro-life candidates my entire voting life I have not seen any yet.

McCain chooses to bomb babies and pregnant women, perhaps for the next 100 years. This "collateral damage" would be fine with him.

robin  posted on  2008-05-03   12:33:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: robin (#10)

You are correct on McCain. You are also mostly right on voting pro life and not seeing much results.

But Obama is in fact in favor of abortion being legal.

That is pro murder.

If he was wise he would drop that position. I would be curious to know Pastor Wrights postition on murdering babies in the womb.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-03   12:42:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Old Friend, robin (#14)

But Obama is in fact in favor of abortion being legal.

McCain and Clinton also support keeping abortion legal, as do 85 to 90 per cent of the American people.

It would take a Constitutional amendment or a ruling of the Supreme court overturning Roe v. Wade, to change it. Roe was issued by a Court that included 6 GOP nominees, 5 of whom were in the majority.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-03   13:16:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: nolu_chan (#16) (Edited)

McCain and Clinton also support keeping abortion legal, as do 85 to 90 per cent of the American people.

That is a lie.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-03   14:16:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Old Friend (#23)

[nc] McCain and Clinton also support keeping abortion legal, as do 85 to 90 per cent of the American people.

[Old Friend] That is a lie.

That is a factually challenged lame excuse for a rebuttal.

Numerous polls find Americans support keeping abortion legal, as stated. While many favor keeping abortion legal with limitations, that is keeping abortion legal.

Hillary Clinton is unabashedly pro-choice.

Adopting McCain's "exception" position would keep abortion legal. Adopting his position of returning jurisdiction to the states would clearly result in abortion on demand within the United States, while some states would prohibit it. Any woman could get an abortion on demand but might have to go to another state to get it.

Overturn Roe v. Wade, but keep incest & rape exceptions
McCain said he thought Roe v. Wade should be overturned and said he would support exceptions to a ban on abortion in cases of rape, incest, and when the mother’s life is in danger.
Source: Boston Globe, p. A11 Jan 22, 2000
McCain is firmly established, on the record, for keeping abortion legal.
www.johnmccain.com/Inform...56e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm

FROM THE McCAIN WEBSITE

John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench. Constitutional balance would be restored by the reversal of Roe v. Wade, returning the abortion question to the individual states. The difficult issue of abortion should not be decided by judicial fiat.

McCain's position is to return jurisdiction to the individual states. That would make abortion legal in all the states until individual states declared it illegal. The practical effect would be to make abortion legal in the United States, and to be regulated only by state law. Any state adopting McCain's position on "exceptions" would keep abortion legal.

There can be no doubt that our more liberal states would have abortion on demand.

I disagree with the characterization of Roe being reversed. What he describes is Roe being overturned and nullified for want of jurisdiction.

I agree with the position that abortion is not in the Constitution, authority to regulate abortion was not ceded to the Federal government, and jurisdiction therefore properly lies with the states.

I would overturn Roe but not replace it with a different activist decision.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-04   3:52:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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