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Title: BARACK'S REV. 'STOLE A WIFE' EX-HUBBY: HE COUNSELED US, THEN WED HER
Source: NY Post
URL Source: http://www.nypost.com/seven/0504200 ... s_rev__stole_a_wife_109298.htm
Published: May 4, 2008
Author: SUSANNAH CAHALAN and VERONICA HINKE
Post Date: 2008-05-04 08:59:31 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 2653
Comments: 127

BARACK'S REV. 'STOLE A WIFE' EX-HUBBY: HE COUNSELED US, THEN WED HER

By SUSANNAH CAHALAN and VERONICA HINKE

32; FUROR: Fire-breathing Chicago pastor Jeremiah Wright (left) reportedly met his wife Ramah (right) after he counseled her and then-husband Delmer Reed in 1983. The Reeds divorced soon after the sessions. 32;32;32; 32;32;32;32;32;32; 32; May 4, 2008 -- The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama's loose cannon of a spiritual adviser, stole the wife of a parishioner - after the man sought Wright's help in saving his troubled marriage, the former husband told friends.

Delmer Reed, 59, confided to pals that he believed the minister moved in on his wife while Wright was counseling the couple at his Chicago church in the early 1980s, The Post has learned.

"That's exactly how he said it," Reed's divorce lawyer, Roosevelt Thomas, told The Post. "It looks like Delmer might have been right," he said, because after Delmer and Ramah Reed were divorced, she got remarried - to Wright. "Either that or this was the biggest coincidence in the world."

Asked about the relationship between Wright and his ex-wife, Reed told The Post, "Oh, the things I could tell you."

Initially, he didn't believe the rumors.

"People were telling me that my extremely attractive wife was seen with the pastor," Reed said. "But I didn't believe it. I thought, 'So what?' "

Was he wrong in the end?

"Well, yeah," he said.

Asked if Wright broke up his marriage, Reed laughed, then said, "I told my kids I wouldn't say anything to hurt their stepfather, so I'm not saying anything."

But he said he's been hounded by the press and "offered money" to tell his story. A spokesman for the Wright family flatly denied the allegation yesterday.

"This story has no merit whatsoever and is not based on facts," said George Lofton. "They had problems throughout the course of their turbulent marriage, and the couple never received marriage counseling from Rev. Wright or anyone else."

But Reed, a former investigator for the Illinois secretary of state, told The Post he and his ex-wife went to Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ for counseling when their marriage hit the skids over his demanding work schedule.

"I spoke with [Wright] four times over a few months," Reed said in an interview at his upscale home in Lemont, Ill.

"Her father asked me to go to counseling. We thought we'd be together forever. I decided to try to work this out." Asked if he's forgiven the pastor, Reed nodded. "I let it go," he said. "I don't want my kids to hear anything negative about their stepfather."


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#88. To: angle (#75)

They're somewhat intelligent; they just have an agenda and there are more than a couple of 'em here.

How many on here do you think really support Obama? I think I have counted less than ten (several fewer than ten actually) who are openly supporting him. Not that I have read all the posts or even all the threads but it doesn't seem like any of the establishment's candidates have many, if any, supporters on here. And I think that is a good thing.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-04   11:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: James Deffenbach (#88)

it doesn't seem like any of the establishment's candidates have many, if any, supporters on here. And I think that is a good thing.

Ten operatives posting incessantly drives away new readers who don't ascribe the the crimminal's choices for us. It thwarts meaningful discussion about how to change the course the crimminals have charted. It's insidious and disruptive.

angle  posted on  2008-05-04   11:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Cynicom (#73)

Must be an error there.

Ovbummer says he is a child of poverty, lived on food stamps and handouts and now he goes from rags to riches?????

Typical American story. He also says he got a free ride for an education, tough life, poor man. Bet he has repaid all the taxes spent on him, right?????

Handouts, he knows for sure.

I heard he finally paid off his student loans a couple years ago.

Someone said, what took him so long.

Maybe needed some Benjamins from Meshelle.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-04   11:16:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: angle (#87)

Have you read The Revolution by RP?

No.

Isn't he that kook the Obama team is trying to latch onto?

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-04   11:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: angle (#89)

Ten operatives posting incessantly drives away new readers who don't ascribe the the crimminal's choices for us.

Do you think Obama really has ten supporters on here? I haven't seen that many. Seems to be half that, maybe six or seven, but of course I could be wrong.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-05-04   11:18:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Interesting development. But what does this have to do with Obamas qualifications to be president?

McInsand hangs out with a warmonger mass murderer named Bush. Hillary voted to support Bushes insane war.

So in my opinion. Obama is at least a little bit better than the Hilderbeast and that insane guy.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-04   11:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: James Deffenbach, cynicom (#92)

Do you think Obama really has ten supporters on here?

Cynicom knows better than I.

angle  posted on  2008-05-04   11:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Peppa (#90)

I heard he finally paid off his student loans a couple years ago.

Someone said, what took him so long.

Maybe needed some Benjamins from Meshelle.

Are you suggesting he used his influence as a representative of the people to enrich his personal situation?

angle  posted on  2008-05-04   11:27:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: angle (#94)

Counting those that are too timid to stand out in direct sunlight, there are ten or more. Most of whom I named nearly a year ago.

When the bell rings, they will fall into lockstep and support and vote for Clinton/Obama...

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-04   11:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: angle (#95)

Are you suggesting he used his influence as a representative of the people to enrich his personal situation?

Well, there are other examples, so I guess...it's possible. People can check out the link and read it with their own eyes.. Heck I didn't know anything about the Chicago machine till a few days ago. It's ugly out there.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-04   11:31:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Old Friend (#93) (Edited)

Interesting development. But what does this have to do with Obamas qualifications to be president?

McInsand hangs out with a warmonger mass murderer named Bush. Hillary voted to support Bushes insane war.

Obama supports a Global Tax that subsidize Genocidal Governments like Mugabe's.

How is that better?

He votes yes for war funding.

He fought a ban on partial birth abortion.

And there is the issue of patient dumping.. but, he is somehow a BETTER cONdidate, and I just don't see it.

He is as bad, as the other two.. and the little gem of 'getting out of Iraq', is certainly in line with what most Americans and the rest of the world want, but he speaks with forked tongue with respect to redeploying forces and adding to them.

He has not repudiated the First Strike policy.

So.. theres more, but that off the top of my head.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-04   11:35:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Is this a tenant of Black Theology?

Nice find Jethro.

The answer of course is, of course not.

Sin knows no color lines. Many years ago, before I converted, my pastor (perhaps my all-time favorite one) divorced his wife and married the church secretary. He was/is a fine person but this marked the end of time at that church, and I suppose rightly so.

He was an older, easy going, fisherman type fella with a grand sense of humor. A couple of of us guys kiddingly asked him if he had strolled down to an X-rated movie house that had opened in the neighborhood, to which he replied "No I think I'll just wait till they're on TV" .... he was pretty close to right, of course.

I miss him.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-04   11:36:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Peppa (#98) (Edited)

What really counts is that he supports Israel to the limit.

Bush has a red phone hot line to Tel Aviv, rumor has it that Obummer will have a live video cam so his bosses in Israel will know when he is standing at attention.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-04   11:38:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

but it seems the Os - like all leftists/liberals - lack a funny bone.

This O sees nothing funny about adultery.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-04   11:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Peppa (#98)

Im votin Ventura, Baldwin or maybe Barr.

It still doesn't negate my opinion that Obama is slightly better then Hillary or McCain.

That doesn't mean he is good.

And if Hannity and Rush are so afraid of him. Then there is a 1 percent chance that I just may vote for him in the general.

We are screwed regardless. Maybe Obama would be a more interesting turn of events. Maybe not. But like I said we are screwed anyways.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-05-04   11:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: christine (#30)

huh? during the clinton years that information was everywhere! remember gennifer flowers and paula jones and kathleen willey? same with mcCain. his womanizing and leaving his first sick wife was covered. all presidential candidates get this treatment. it's not exclusive to obama and wright.

All of this disgusting stuff went on when millions of voters were toddlers or small children.

It may not be news to us but it is most certainly more pertinent than running Wright around the track again.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-04   11:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Cynicom (#100)

What really counts is that he supports Israel to the limit.

Precisely. And what these threads do is divert attention for the kinds of issues that's aren't being discussed on msm, LIKE:

The arrest this week of an American-born Army engineer on charges that he spied for Israel, has revived the hunt for the "X Committee," the high-level apparatus of Israeli spies and agents-of-influence who worked with Jonathan Pollard, the convicted Israeli spy, who stole vast amounts of U.S. national security secrets during the 1980s, and passed them to Israel. On April 22, Ben- Ami Kadish was arrested at his home in New Jersey, and charged with delivering U.S. nuclear weapon and other military secrets to Israel.

www.larouchepac.org/news/...raeli-spy-revives-hunt-x- committee.html

angle  posted on  2008-05-04   11:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Cynicom (#100)

What really counts is that he supports Israel to the limit.

Bush has a red phone hot line to Tel Aviv, rumor has it that Obummer will have a live video cam so his bosses in Israel will know when he is standing at attention.

I like the idea of eliminating foreign aid, and let governments stand on their own.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-04   11:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Old Friend (#102)

It still doesn't negate my opinion that Obama is slightly better then Hillary or McCain.

That doesn't mean he is good.

And if Hannity and Rush are so afraid of him. Then there is a 1 percent chance that I just may vote for him in the general.

We are screwed regardless. Maybe Obama would be a more interesting turn of events. Maybe not. But like I said we are screwed anyways.

OF.. Rush et all are NOT afraid of Obama, their job is to keep the left/right fraud alive. People are catching on the one-party rule, AND for whom, and these hucksters serve the same master.

And we see there are still people that CAN NOT LET GO of that. They are perfectly programmed bots, when push comes to shove.

When pointing out the evil deeds of these candidates, IMO, all people should reject them ALL.

We are nothing but expendable trash to them.

And you are right, we're hosed, but FCOL, don't vote to give them more hose.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-04   11:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Peppa (#105)

I like the idea of eliminating foreign aid, and let governments stand on their own.

Fibber. You did read The Revolution.

angle  posted on  2008-05-04   11:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Red Jones (#33)

Other disgusting tibits about McCain at that point .... the wife he dumped had been crippled by a a car accident while he was captive.

His young trophy bride turned out to be a twofer ... her millionaire daddy bought McCain his first office.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-04   11:59:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: iconoclast (#101)

This O sees nothing funny about adultery.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-04   12:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: angle (#107)

I like the idea of eliminating foreign aid, and let governments stand on their own. Fibber. You did read The Revolution.

:)

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-04   12:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Jethro Tull (#109)

This O sees nothing funny about adultery.

Or blatant racism.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-04   12:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Jethro Tull (#109)

Barry Obama is 1/2 Caucasian, 7/16 Arab and 1/16 African. That alone makes him an Arab-American, not an African-American. And there's your first display of re- writing history.

http://laotze.blogspot.com/2008/03/obamas-messianic-foreign-policy.html

Now, I'm beginning to think he's pretending to be 1/2 black to fool a particular electorate.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-04   12:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: iconoclast (#111)

you one baaaad mofo.....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-04   12:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: iconoclast (#108)

Other disgusting tidbits about McCain at that point .... the wife he dumped had been crippled by a a car accident while he was captive.

His young trophy bride turned out to be a twofer ... her millionaire daddy bought McCain his first office.

Yep, and this is John McCain the presidential candidate (not his ex-pastor, which would have no bearing on the election whatsoever).

"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2008-05-04   12:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: robin (#64)

And this has ZERO to do with Obama.

For a person who claims to be doing nothing more than taking a gamble with Obama, you sure have lots of vested interest in him. When I plop down $5 bucks on a roulette wheel, I don't do a lot of thinking about winning or losing. A smile or a shrug is the end result of my gamble, not some long, tortured examination of the actual bet. But that's me.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-04   12:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Jethro Tull (#115)

I dislike injustice. I don't agree with Zundel but I have posted articles in his defense.

For anyone to try and tie whatever Wright may or may not have done with Obama is so absurd it deserves condemnation.

... was right, " And by your reasoning, is everyone who attends a Catholic Church a fag and a child molester?"

"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2008-05-04   12:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: robin (#116)

For anyone to try and tie whatever Wright may or may not have done with Obama is so absurd it deserves condemnation.

Opinions, like belly buttons....

The question is does Obama ascribe to Wrights Black Racist Theology. After all he was a parishioner for 20 years, so the question is legitimate. Now, if a white politician is made to grovel for stepping foot on the campus of Bob Jones University, what except your acceptance of reverse racism, rationalizes cutting Obama a break with this pig?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-04   12:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Jethro Tull (#115)

Pastor Wright Erased From Obama’s Website

sweetness-light.com/archi...rased-from-obamas-website

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-04   12:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Peppa (#118)

Pastor Wright Erased From Obama’s Website

If Obama were a neocon, this erasure alone would make for tons o' fun - as it should. Obama wouldn't be in this mess if he didn't crawl in bed with him in the first place.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-04   12:56:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Jethro Tull (#117)

Again as ... so well asked:

"And by your reasoning, is everyone who attends a Catholic Church a fag and a child molester?"

So is everyone who attends a Catholic Church a pedophile?

No! Therefore trying to make Obama evil because of whatever his pastor may have done is just absurd.

Meanwhile John McCain the candidate (not his ex-pastor) did indeed dump his wife and for a very wealthy one.

Most Black Church pastors rant about the same as Wright from what I've read. Consider, the soundbites played over and over are taken from 36 years of preaching. Wright's sermons were not one controversial statement after another, as MSM and Fox News would have people believe.

Obama has spoken out against Wright's divisive statements. Now he has even further distanced himself from Wright.

From all that Obama has said about race, including his outstanding speech on race when the Wright controversy was first reported, he is most certainly not a racist.

"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2008-05-04   13:03:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Jethro Tull (#119)

if he didn't crawl in bed with him in the first place.

"And by your reasoning, is everyone who attends a Catholic Church a fag and a child molester?"

How do you equate attending someone's church as crawling into bed with him?

"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2008-05-04   13:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Jethro Tull (#119)

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/pastor-wright-erased-from-obamas-website

Well, I think he is a neo-con... but that's beside the point.

You are right..


Dear Barry:

My heart has been crushed so many times before, I have almost lost count. It seems like every four years I get in a serious relationship with a new guy; it starts with infatuation but he invariably turns out to be a boozer, an abuser, or a loser, and I am left to pick up the pieces. I swear sometimes I must be cursed or subconsciously a masochist.

Finally, though, I think I may have met Mister Right. He's tall and dark and handsome, with this mysterious, dreamy, rugged faraway look in his eye that tells me he is THE ONE. Whenever he needs to borrow my car, or some money for his experimental jazz project, he always looks deep in my eyes and says "thank you" in that smoky baritone, and I swear I think I'm going to melt.

Long story short, we've moved in together. But now that I've finally found true love, some of my so-called "friends" have been less than supportive. Most of them are very positive, but a few have lately been "warning" me that he's no good, and hangs out with a bad crowd, and blah blah blah. How do I deal with this kind of petty jealousy? Also, when would be a good time for me to ask my new boyfriend what his name is?

Puzzled in Washington

Dear Puzzled:

Don't listen to the nay-sayers! I say follow your heart, and hop on your dreamboat tramp steamer for a mystery love cruise to Fantasy Island. Even if that Island is deserted and filled with tropical disease, you can still make beautiful experimental jazz together.

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-04   13:12:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Jethro Tull (#121)

Red State Update: You Thought Rev. Wright Was Bad...

"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2008-05-04   15:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Peppa (#122)

hehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2008-05-04   15:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Cynicom (#124)

hehehehehehe

For the record, I'm not the author, just forgot to post the source. :)

Peppa  posted on  2008-05-04   15:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Cynicom (#59)

The Nixons and Eisenhowers all gave the full limit, the very same people that supported George Bush four years ago.

That speaks volumes.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-05-04   17:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: robin (#121)

How do you equate attending someone's church as crawling into bed with him?

Well first, he attended the church for 20 years, never once hearing a nasty comment. Sure. Second, he married Obama and the racist Michelle. Then Barry asked Wright to baptise his children, which was quickly followed by an appointment to Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee. Finally, he was at Obama's presidential announcement, where they prayed together immediately before the announcement. So see? There's much more of a relationship here than you can admit.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-05-04   17:46:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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