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Title: BARACK'S REV. 'STOLE A WIFE' EX-HUBBY: HE COUNSELED US, THEN WED HER
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NY Post
URL Source: http://www.nypost.com/seven/0504200 ... s_rev__stole_a_wife_109298.htm
Published: May 4, 2008
Author: SUSANNAH CAHALAN and VERONICA HINKE
Post Date: 2008-05-04 08:59:31 by Jethro Tull
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BARACK'S REV. 'STOLE A WIFE' EX-HUBBY: HE COUNSELED US, THEN WED HER By SUSANNAH CAHALAN and VERONICA HINKE 32; FUROR: Fire-breathing Chicago pastor Jeremiah Wright (left) reportedly met his wife Ramah (right) after he counseled her and then-husband Delmer Reed in 1983. The Reeds divorced soon after the sessions. 32;32;32; 32;32;32;32;32;32; 32; May 4, 2008 -- The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama's loose cannon of a spiritual adviser, stole the wife of a parishioner - after the man sought Wright's help in saving his troubled marriage, the former husband told friends. Delmer Reed, 59, confided to pals that he believed the minister moved in on his wife while Wright was counseling the couple at his Chicago church in the early 1980s, The Post has learned. "That's exactly how he said it," Reed's divorce lawyer, Roosevelt Thomas, told The Post. "It looks like Delmer might have been right," he said, because after Delmer and Ramah Reed were divorced, she got remarried - to Wright. "Either that or this was the biggest coincidence in the world." Asked about the relationship between Wright and his ex-wife, Reed told The Post, "Oh, the things I could tell you." Initially, he didn't believe the rumors. "People were telling me that my extremely attractive wife was seen with the pastor," Reed said. "But I didn't believe it. I thought, 'So what?' " Was he wrong in the end? "Well, yeah," he said. Asked if Wright broke up his marriage, Reed laughed, then said, "I told my kids I wouldn't say anything to hurt their stepfather, so I'm not saying anything." But he said he's been hounded by the press and "offered money" to tell his story. A spokesman for the Wright family flatly denied the allegation yesterday. "This story has no merit whatsoever and is not based on facts," said George Lofton. "They had problems throughout the course of their turbulent marriage, and the couple never received marriage counseling from Rev. Wright or anyone else." But Reed, a former investigator for the Illinois secretary of state, told The Post he and his ex-wife went to Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ for counseling when their marriage hit the skids over his demanding work schedule. "I spoke with [Wright] four times over a few months," Reed said in an interview at his upscale home in Lemont, Ill. "Her father asked me to go to counseling. We thought we'd be together forever. I decided to try to work this out." Asked if he's forgiven the pastor, Reed nodded. "I let it go," he said. "I don't want my kids to hear anything negative about their stepfather."
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#16. To: christine (#12)
the mainstream media spent a lot of time talking about the Monica scandal. They did not make clear that Clinton & his wife have a track record of swinging and snorting cocaine. the stories about Clinton's sex scandals have always been taboo other than the one Monica story. and I don't remember ever reading in the national media about McCain not seeing his first wife even once after he got back from Vietnam. Reverend Wright isn't even a candidate and look at this gossip on him. We've read these stories on McCain & Hilary clinton that I mentioned, but I don't think the mainstream media spread them. This story above is from New York Post.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
FLASH! Hank Aaron breaks Babe Ruths
home run record!
I've already pointed out that 2 prominent preachers who endorse McCain preach some whacky stuff about how we need to kill muslims. I think the story about how McCain never even went back to his wife after coming back from Vietnam and instead picked up young Cindy at the bar his very first night of freedom is a significant story. and I heard that story here in Phoenix from a woman who was a close friend of Cindy's. its just like I said, Obama is the target, the other 2 are protected currently. the media could drag any of these 3 through the mud and destroy them.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
The white guilters on 4um that have come out of their hidey holes all seem to be using the same play book, always on the same page, and sometimes quoting the same lines. Now you know that is just COINCIDENCE, right??????????? Only a true cyinc would ever entertain that our hidey hole friends here on 4um are acting in concert? Good heavens, perish the ugly truth.
all of that about the other two is known and has been posted many times for years. old news. obama is the unknown and the man of the hour...iow, the new news. You nailed it, Christine: I probably won't vote for Obama. and I certainly won't vote for Hillay or McSwine The Electric Jew does not want Obasma in the White House. Is it a ploy, or do the Zionists behind the curtain fear Obama?
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
Me and Mrs. Jones - We meet every day Me and Mrs. Mrs. Jones – We've gotta be extra careful Me and Mrs. Mrs. Jones – Well it's time for us to be leaving Me and Mrs. Mrs. Jones – I wanna meet,
those stories were never told in the mainstream mass media. they told the Monica stories ad nauseum, but ignored all the others. Now that hilary is a presidential candidate it is appropriate to let people speak nationally in the mass media who saw her snorting cocaine & swinging & such. that is a lot more significant than Wright going to a church. I'm not a fan of Obama, although I agree with paul that he's slightly better. I'm only pointing out what is being done. any of the 3 candidates could be destroyed by the media.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Perhaps on a different thread. This one is limited to Obama's racist pastor. LOL - your wright. Do ping me when the analysis shifts to phone company, trash collections and grocery purchases.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Now you know that is just COINCIDENCE, right??????????? Only a true cyinc would ever entertain that our hidey hole friends here on 4um are acting in concert? Good heavens, perish the ugly truth.
Obummer is USEFUL and EXPENDABLE.
Dig 'em out and post them. The 4um free market decides what's of interest or not. I've posted articles I thought were of interest only to met by crickets. I guess current events are the key to how an article is received.
Patience while red checks todays play book and gets on the right page.
The "white guilters" here on 4um become more strident every day. When Obummer does his swan dive and becomes Hillarys lackey, they will all join in lockstep voting FOR Obama, with Hillary a throw in. There has to be some hypocrisy there somewhere, surely there is no humor. Personally, I find it very hard to figure out all this hero worship of just another statist whore. And Obama is a statist whore just as surely as Hillary and McCain are.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
huh? during the clinton years that information was everywhere! remember gennifer flowers and paula jones and kathleen willey? same with mcCain. his womanizing and leaving his first sick wife was covered. all presidential candidates get this treatment. it's not exclusive to obama and wright. scandal and gossip sell. think of the outings of all the pederasts and homos in the GOP and among rightwing clergy.
Obama/Wright Mentality Catching on in Elementary School The political mentality of Barack Obama and his temporarily sidelined mentor Jeremiah Wright has found fertile soil at a Brooklyn elementary school: Disturbing, gang-like graffiti is cropping up all over a Brooklyn elementary school, marring a playground, classrooms and two teachers' cars, authorities said. The troubling words "Jump White People" and abbreviation "JWP" have appeared at Public School 224 in East New York about a dozen times in the past three weeks, and some teachers are concerned that it's not being taken seriously. One day this may be the national motto, like it probably is in Zimbabwe. ">
And ALL of them SHOULD be. Not a one of the three of them are worth losing one minute's sleep over--I think it is probably safe to say that not one of them would piss on you if you were on fire.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Regarding those specific stories I recounted in #6 - those are things that myself and others who have a long history of reading on FR, LP, here & elsewhere are aware of. The story about cindy being picked up by John at the hotel bar I heard that story from cindy's closest friend and I didn't read it. But those stories I mentioned in #6 I don't think ever got published in the national media. so there's one standard for Obama clearly and another for the other 2. Obama is their target. Regarding whether Obama & wright are a bit racist - I think obama's written statements indicate a little racism. but that doesn't bother me at all compared to the fact that Obama supports the Federal Reserve, obama supports the war on terror, Obama doesn't care to roll back patriot act. I'm not really pro-Obama, but I might vote for him on election day. Do you think there's a better choice to vote for on election day? I've written in people's names before, they didn't win. The only benefit I can see in voting for Obama is to send a message to the rest of the world that at least we Americans tried to put in a candidate who pretended to be not-so-pro-war as the others. thats a very small benefit I admit, but do you have a better way to go?
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Well, the reason is not stupidity, ignorance nor lack of programmed education. That being said, one has to look elsewhere for logical explanations. Notice I made that plural??? Most are race conscious in that OTHERS are racists and bigots, but not them. They are the first to spout the terms, anti semetic, racist, bigot and whatever. Casting the first stone gives them the advantage of putting others on the defensive. Old trick.
we read that hilary clinton snorted cocaine and attended swing clubs and had an affair with Vince Foster. I don't think that hardly any americans are knowledgeable of this. and it was Gingrich who told his wife he would divorce her when she was sick with cancer. the McCain story about how he never even went to see his wife after coming back from Vietnam haven't even been told. But here's reverend wright who's not even a candidate and he gets stories told about him.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
White people can't jump.
either don't vote, or vote 3rd party. vote for someone who represents your core principles. you are a believer in the two party fraud, are you not, Red? i always thought you were. then don't give your endorsement to the fraud in essence telling them you want more of the same.
Cant jump because so many are laden with white guilt. That being the case, I wonder why none of them move to Harlem to PROVE their love of diversity??? By the way, Rev. Wright is now living in a majority white gated community. Wright and the white guilters have one thing in common, none of them will live in the hood.
I don't normally vote for either of the 2 parties. I normally write in a name, at least the last 6 years that's how I've done it. but regarding Obama, I may make an exception. for the reasons I said - he has said he wants to bring the troops home from Iraq and the world should know we're not war-crazy. In my state we usually don't even have 3'rd party candidates, they find it difficult to get on the ballot. I sure wouldn't vote for alan Keyes. all I've done is point out that the media is going out of its way to take Obama down.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Good thing Rev. Wright isn't running for President isn't it? He doesn't really sound fit. And by your reasoning, is everyone who attends a Catholic Church a fag and a child molester?
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Red... And the $200 million dollars plus "donated" to Obummer has come from WHERE?????
I believe that such remarks can hurt other people's feelings. If you tell someone 'you are a supporter of the two-party fraud (ron paul's scam too)' then it's not very likely that he would follow your advice to vote 'third party'. By the way, why isn't 'third party' a fraud as well? It's my impression that 'third parties' are largely fictional entities whose main reason for manifesting themselves in our perceived reality is that of legitimizing the two-party system. When you vote 'third party' you are still supporting 'a party' and 'parties' are always mafia-like organizations whose purpose is not to represent the people but to advance some agenda and ideology and, more importantly, to acquire, hold and exercise power.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
And anyone making remarks such as this proves themselves to be intellectually deficient.
I heard that it came from small donors. But I'd love to hear the looney conspiracy theory you're alluding to .... without being able to actually come out and state it. By the way, by law the books are open - but you know that. You just don't want us to know that.
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I've heard that.
And anyone making remarks such as this proves themselves to be intellectually deficient. Cynicom Gotcha. Thanks for admitting it with your silly insult instead of a response.
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That's where the filter comes in handy. Filters out the spam, provides continuity for discussion.
They do support the tax system rather well however, to provide for all the goodies handed out by the government.
Why don't you simply tell us why McCain would be a better President? Your covert negative campaigning gets so contorted that it's laughable.
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Dog and pony show. PLUS the added bonus of inflaming race relations.
The white guilters tried spam, tried squirming, twisting, insulting, anything to derail talk about Obummer and the good Reverand that is tied around his neck.
I head it came from small donors. But I'd love to hear the looney conspiracy theory you're alluding to .... without being able to actually come out and state it. BHO's people say that the donations still 'average' $96 a pop, even with the recent corporate funding. Who knows?
Racism is a one way street, always has been and is a useful tool when wielded by the white guilters that infest 4um.
That being said, one has to look elsewhere for logical explanations. Notice I made that plural??? Most are race conscious in that OTHERS are racists and bigots, but not them. They are the first to spout the terms, anti semetic, racist, bigot and whatever. Casting the first stone gives them the advantage of putting others on the defensive. Old trick. Could be, I don't know. I see all this Obama palaver and crying over a guy who is clearly just another statist, by what I believe to be otherwise intelligent people and it just doesn't make any sense to me.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He attends church?
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
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#17. To: Red Jones (#10)
and Hilary keeps company with Bill clinton. and there are many
people who will recount the cocaine days and the swinging and the wild sex.
#18. To: Cynicom (#13)
#19. To: Jethro Tull, red jones, christine, peppa (#14)
I put this under 4 Play for laughs, but it seems the Os - like all leftists/liberals - lack a funny bone.
#20. To: christine, Red Jones (#12)
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Billy Paul- Me and Mrs Jones
we've got a thing going on.
We both know that it's wrong,
to let it go now.
at the same café
6:30 I know - I know she'll be there.
Holding hands - making all kinds of plans
while the jukebox play our favourite song.
Mrs. Jones – Mrs. Jones –
Mrs. Jones
we've got a thing going on.
We both know that it's wrong,
but it's much too strong
to let it go now.
That we don't build our hopes up too high.
'Cause she's got her own obligations
and so – and so do I...
Mrs. Jones – Mrs. Jones – Mrs. Jones
we've got a thing going on.
We both know that it's wrong,
but it's much too strong
to let it go now.
It hurts so much - it hurts so much inside
Now she'll go her way
And I'll go mine.
Tomorrow we'll meet the same
place – the same time.
Mrs. Jones – Mrs. Jones –
Mrs. Jones
we've got a thing going on.
We've gotta be extra careful.
We can't afford to build our
hopes up too high.
and talk with you,
at the same place,
the same café,
the same time
And we're gonna hold hands like we used to
We're gonna talk it over, talk it over
We know, they know, and you
know and I know that it was
wrong
But I'll make it strong...
We've gotta let 'em know now
We've got a thing going on...
...thing going on
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
FLASH!
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
I want to know more about Obama's phone company
#24. To: Cynicom (#19)
The white guilters on 4um that have come out of their hidey holes all seem to be using the same play book, always on the same page, and sometimes quoting the same lines.
#25. To: Zoroaster (#20)
Is it a ploy, or do the Zionists behind the curtain fear Obama?
#26. To: Red Jones (#22)
those stories were never told in the mainstream mass media. they told the Monica stories ad nauseum, but ignored all the others.
#27. To: Jethro Tull, red jones (#26)
#28. To: Cynicom (#15)
Agreed...
Lord Acton
#29. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#30. To: Red Jones (#16)
They did not make clear that Clinton & his wife have a track record of swinging and snorting cocaine. the stories about Clinton's sex scandals have always been taboo other than the one Monica story.
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#9)
The question, Red, is how a man (Obama) can be a member of a radical black church (Trinity) for 20 years, led by a full blown black racist (Wright), and not be a racist himself. I'm going to explore that issue whether folks approve or not.
Obama captures the grade school demographic.
#32. To: Red Jones (#22)
any of the 3 candidates could be destroyed by the media.
Lord Acton
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
#34. To: James Deffenbach (#28)
Personally, I find it very hard to figure out all this hero worship of just another statist whore. And Obama is a statist whore just as surely as Hillary and McCain are.
#35. To: christine (#30)
#36. To: Peppa (#31)
#37. To: Red Jones (#33)
Do you think there's a better choice to vote for on election day? I've written in people's names before, they didn't win. The only benefit I can see in voting for Obama is to send a message to the rest of the world that at least we Americans tried to put in a candidate who pretended to be not-so-pro-war as the others. thats a very small benefit I admit, but do you have a better way to go?
#38. To: angle (#36)
White people can't jump.
#39. To: christine (#37)
#40. To: Cynicom (#38)
#41. To: Red Jones (#39)
all I've done is point out that the media is going out of its way to take Obama down.
#42. To: christine (#37)
(Edited)
#43. To: ... (#40)
And by your reasoning, is everyone who attends a Catholic Church a fag and a child molester?
#44. To: Cynicom (#41)
(Edited)
And the $200 million dollars plus "donated" to Obummer has come from WHERE?????
#45. To: angle (#36)
White people can't jump.
#46. To: Cynicom (#43)
And by your reasoning, is everyone who attends a Catholic Church a fag and a child molester?
#47. To: Jethro Tull, cynicom (#9)
I'm going to explore that issue whether folks approve or not.
#48. To: Peppa (#45)
I've heard that.
#49. To: Cynicom (#43)
And anyone making remarks such as this proves themselves to be intellectually deficient.
#50. To: christine, Red Jones (#12)
all of that about the other two is known and has been posted many times for years. old news. obama is the unknown and the man of the hour...iow, the new news.
#51. To: angle (#47)
#52. To: ..., Cynicom, all (#44)
And the $200 million dollars plus "donated" to Obummer has come from WHERE?????
#53. To: angle (#50)
Dog and pony show. PLUS the added bonus of inflaming race relations.
#54. To: Cynicom (#34)
Well, the reason is not stupidity, ignorance nor lack of programmed education.
Lord Acton
#55. To: Cynicom (#13)
There is like info coming out about McKooKs reverend
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