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Title: BARACK'S REV. 'STOLE A WIFE' EX-HUBBY: HE COUNSELED US, THEN WED HER
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NY Post
URL Source: http://www.nypost.com/seven/0504200 ... s_rev__stole_a_wife_109298.htm
Published: May 4, 2008
Author: SUSANNAH CAHALAN and VERONICA HINKE
Post Date: 2008-05-04 08:59:31 by Jethro Tull
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BARACK'S REV. 'STOLE A WIFE' EX-HUBBY: HE COUNSELED US, THEN WED HER By SUSANNAH CAHALAN and VERONICA HINKE 32; FUROR: Fire-breathing Chicago pastor Jeremiah Wright (left) reportedly met his wife Ramah (right) after he counseled her and then-husband Delmer Reed in 1983. The Reeds divorced soon after the sessions. 32;32;32; 32;32;32;32;32;32; 32; May 4, 2008 -- The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama's loose cannon of a spiritual adviser, stole the wife of a parishioner - after the man sought Wright's help in saving his troubled marriage, the former husband told friends. Delmer Reed, 59, confided to pals that he believed the minister moved in on his wife while Wright was counseling the couple at his Chicago church in the early 1980s, The Post has learned. "That's exactly how he said it," Reed's divorce lawyer, Roosevelt Thomas, told The Post. "It looks like Delmer might have been right," he said, because after Delmer and Ramah Reed were divorced, she got remarried - to Wright. "Either that or this was the biggest coincidence in the world." Asked about the relationship between Wright and his ex-wife, Reed told The Post, "Oh, the things I could tell you." Initially, he didn't believe the rumors. "People were telling me that my extremely attractive wife was seen with the pastor," Reed said. "But I didn't believe it. I thought, 'So what?' " Was he wrong in the end? "Well, yeah," he said. Asked if Wright broke up his marriage, Reed laughed, then said, "I told my kids I wouldn't say anything to hurt their stepfather, so I'm not saying anything." But he said he's been hounded by the press and "offered money" to tell his story. A spokesman for the Wright family flatly denied the allegation yesterday. "This story has no merit whatsoever and is not based on facts," said George Lofton. "They had problems throughout the course of their turbulent marriage, and the couple never received marriage counseling from Rev. Wright or anyone else." But Reed, a former investigator for the Illinois secretary of state, told The Post he and his ex-wife went to Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ for counseling when their marriage hit the skids over his demanding work schedule. "I spoke with [Wright] four times over a few months," Reed said in an interview at his upscale home in Lemont, Ill. "Her father asked me to go to counseling. We thought we'd be together forever. I decided to try to work this out." Asked if he's forgiven the pastor, Reed nodded. "I let it go," he said. "I don't want my kids to hear anything negative about their stepfather."
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#28. To: Cynicom (#15)
The "white guilters" here on 4um become more strident every day. When Obummer does his swan dive and becomes Hillarys lackey, they will all join in lockstep voting FOR Obama, with Hillary a throw in. There has to be some hypocrisy there somewhere, surely there is no humor. Personally, I find it very hard to figure out all this hero worship of just another statist whore. And Obama is a statist whore just as surely as Hillary and McCain are.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
huh? during the clinton years that information was everywhere! remember gennifer flowers and paula jones and kathleen willey? same with mcCain. his womanizing and leaving his first sick wife was covered. all presidential candidates get this treatment. it's not exclusive to obama and wright. scandal and gossip sell. think of the outings of all the pederasts and homos in the GOP and among rightwing clergy.
Obama/Wright Mentality Catching on in Elementary School The political mentality of Barack Obama and his temporarily sidelined mentor Jeremiah Wright has found fertile soil at a Brooklyn elementary school: Disturbing, gang-like graffiti is cropping up all over a Brooklyn elementary school, marring a playground, classrooms and two teachers' cars, authorities said. The troubling words "Jump White People" and abbreviation "JWP" have appeared at Public School 224 in East New York about a dozen times in the past three weeks, and some teachers are concerned that it's not being taken seriously. One day this may be the national motto, like it probably is in Zimbabwe. ">
And ALL of them SHOULD be. Not a one of the three of them are worth losing one minute's sleep over--I think it is probably safe to say that not one of them would piss on you if you were on fire.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Regarding those specific stories I recounted in #6 - those are things that myself and others who have a long history of reading on FR, LP, here & elsewhere are aware of. The story about cindy being picked up by John at the hotel bar I heard that story from cindy's closest friend and I didn't read it. But those stories I mentioned in #6 I don't think ever got published in the national media. so there's one standard for Obama clearly and another for the other 2. Obama is their target. Regarding whether Obama & wright are a bit racist - I think obama's written statements indicate a little racism. but that doesn't bother me at all compared to the fact that Obama supports the Federal Reserve, obama supports the war on terror, Obama doesn't care to roll back patriot act. I'm not really pro-Obama, but I might vote for him on election day. Do you think there's a better choice to vote for on election day? I've written in people's names before, they didn't win. The only benefit I can see in voting for Obama is to send a message to the rest of the world that at least we Americans tried to put in a candidate who pretended to be not-so-pro-war as the others. thats a very small benefit I admit, but do you have a better way to go?
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Well, the reason is not stupidity, ignorance nor lack of programmed education. That being said, one has to look elsewhere for logical explanations. Notice I made that plural??? Most are race conscious in that OTHERS are racists and bigots, but not them. They are the first to spout the terms, anti semetic, racist, bigot and whatever. Casting the first stone gives them the advantage of putting others on the defensive. Old trick.
we read that hilary clinton snorted cocaine and attended swing clubs and had an affair with Vince Foster. I don't think that hardly any americans are knowledgeable of this. and it was Gingrich who told his wife he would divorce her when she was sick with cancer. the McCain story about how he never even went to see his wife after coming back from Vietnam haven't even been told. But here's reverend wright who's not even a candidate and he gets stories told about him.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
White people can't jump.
either don't vote, or vote 3rd party. vote for someone who represents your core principles. you are a believer in the two party fraud, are you not, Red? i always thought you were. then don't give your endorsement to the fraud in essence telling them you want more of the same.
Cant jump because so many are laden with white guilt. That being the case, I wonder why none of them move to Harlem to PROVE their love of diversity??? By the way, Rev. Wright is now living in a majority white gated community. Wright and the white guilters have one thing in common, none of them will live in the hood.
I don't normally vote for either of the 2 parties. I normally write in a name, at least the last 6 years that's how I've done it. but regarding Obama, I may make an exception. for the reasons I said - he has said he wants to bring the troops home from Iraq and the world should know we're not war-crazy. In my state we usually don't even have 3'rd party candidates, they find it difficult to get on the ballot. I sure wouldn't vote for alan Keyes. all I've done is point out that the media is going out of its way to take Obama down.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Good thing Rev. Wright isn't running for President isn't it? He doesn't really sound fit. And by your reasoning, is everyone who attends a Catholic Church a fag and a child molester?
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Red... And the $200 million dollars plus "donated" to Obummer has come from WHERE?????
I believe that such remarks can hurt other people's feelings. If you tell someone 'you are a supporter of the two-party fraud (ron paul's scam too)' then it's not very likely that he would follow your advice to vote 'third party'. By the way, why isn't 'third party' a fraud as well? It's my impression that 'third parties' are largely fictional entities whose main reason for manifesting themselves in our perceived reality is that of legitimizing the two-party system. When you vote 'third party' you are still supporting 'a party' and 'parties' are always mafia-like organizations whose purpose is not to represent the people but to advance some agenda and ideology and, more importantly, to acquire, hold and exercise power.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
And anyone making remarks such as this proves themselves to be intellectually deficient.
I heard that it came from small donors. But I'd love to hear the looney conspiracy theory you're alluding to .... without being able to actually come out and state it. By the way, by law the books are open - but you know that. You just don't want us to know that.
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I've heard that.
And anyone making remarks such as this proves themselves to be intellectually deficient. Cynicom Gotcha. Thanks for admitting it with your silly insult instead of a response.
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That's where the filter comes in handy. Filters out the spam, provides continuity for discussion.
They do support the tax system rather well however, to provide for all the goodies handed out by the government.
Why don't you simply tell us why McCain would be a better President? Your covert negative campaigning gets so contorted that it's laughable.
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Dog and pony show. PLUS the added bonus of inflaming race relations.
The white guilters tried spam, tried squirming, twisting, insulting, anything to derail talk about Obummer and the good Reverand that is tied around his neck.
I head it came from small donors. But I'd love to hear the looney conspiracy theory you're alluding to .... without being able to actually come out and state it. BHO's people say that the donations still 'average' $96 a pop, even with the recent corporate funding. Who knows?
Racism is a one way street, always has been and is a useful tool when wielded by the white guilters that infest 4um.
That being said, one has to look elsewhere for logical explanations. Notice I made that plural??? Most are race conscious in that OTHERS are racists and bigots, but not them. They are the first to spout the terms, anti semetic, racist, bigot and whatever. Casting the first stone gives them the advantage of putting others on the defensive. Old trick. Could be, I don't know. I see all this Obama palaver and crying over a guy who is clearly just another statist, by what I believe to be otherwise intelligent people and it just doesn't make any sense to me.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He attends church?
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
Interesting that Big Brown won the Kentucky Derby and the filly who Clinton favored, Eight Belles, who finished second was put down on the track after breaking both her front ankles.
Who knows? The GOP can just go look where it comes from. There might be month or two lag, but it's public knowledge. If there was some worthwhile dirt, Cyni would be flapping his arms and screaming in outrage instead of making vague and unsupported allusions to his "money conspiracy".
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Gossip rag.
lod... The Nixons and Eisenhowers all gave the full limit, the very same people that supported George Bush four years ago. It seems to me Obama should return that money. Speak of white guilt, those people wallow in it publicly. Here Baraka, have $2300.00 to PROVE I am not racist.
That's a good point.
I believe that all the candidates are supposed to make quarterly filings with www.fec.gov
No, on rare occasions he is inside a church building. Big difference.
So they gave $2600. Big deal. Maybe they gave it because they like Obama, as Nixon's daughter recently said she did. Why the hell should Obama give the money back?
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And this has ZERO to do with Obama. John McCain OTOH, dumped his faithful ex-wife for the very wealthy Cindy. Not John McCain's ex-pastor, John McCain himself. Talk about whipping a dead horse. It's Wright who is that horse, not Obama. These endless "guilt by association" spins grow more tiresome by the day. And it sounds like it could well be false too. "This story has no merit whatsoever and is not based on facts," said George Lofton. "They had problems throughout the course of their turbulent marriage, and the couple never received marriage counseling from Rev. Wright or anyone else."
"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
And serves to keep the discussion off the issues.
Robin's right. I don't think you're going to be able to fool us into thinking Obama is Rev. Wright. While it's true that all coloured guys sort of look alike, I can still tell the difference. Why don't you tell us that Obama hates American because his flag pin is too small?
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Why? Don't people have the right to support who they wish? Besides, this is the first 'fresh meat' (s)election since when?
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Lord Acton
#29. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#30. To: Red Jones (#16)
They did not make clear that Clinton & his wife have a track record of swinging and snorting cocaine. the stories about Clinton's sex scandals have always been taboo other than the one Monica story.
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#9)
The question, Red, is how a man (Obama) can be a member of a radical black church (Trinity) for 20 years, led by a full blown black racist (Wright), and not be a racist himself. I'm going to explore that issue whether folks approve or not.
Obama captures the grade school demographic.
#32. To: Red Jones (#22)
any of the 3 candidates could be destroyed by the media.
Lord Acton
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
#34. To: James Deffenbach (#28)
Personally, I find it very hard to figure out all this hero worship of just another statist whore. And Obama is a statist whore just as surely as Hillary and McCain are.
#35. To: christine (#30)
#36. To: Peppa (#31)
#37. To: Red Jones (#33)
Do you think there's a better choice to vote for on election day? I've written in people's names before, they didn't win. The only benefit I can see in voting for Obama is to send a message to the rest of the world that at least we Americans tried to put in a candidate who pretended to be not-so-pro-war as the others. thats a very small benefit I admit, but do you have a better way to go?
#38. To: angle (#36)
White people can't jump.
#39. To: christine (#37)
#40. To: Cynicom (#38)
#41. To: Red Jones (#39)
all I've done is point out that the media is going out of its way to take Obama down.
#42. To: christine (#37)
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#43. To: ... (#40)
And by your reasoning, is everyone who attends a Catholic Church a fag and a child molester?
#44. To: Cynicom (#41)
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And the $200 million dollars plus "donated" to Obummer has come from WHERE?????
#45. To: angle (#36)
White people can't jump.
#46. To: Cynicom (#43)
And by your reasoning, is everyone who attends a Catholic Church a fag and a child molester?
#47. To: Jethro Tull, cynicom (#9)
I'm going to explore that issue whether folks approve or not.
#48. To: Peppa (#45)
I've heard that.
#49. To: Cynicom (#43)
And anyone making remarks such as this proves themselves to be intellectually deficient.
#50. To: christine, Red Jones (#12)
all of that about the other two is known and has been posted many times for years. old news. obama is the unknown and the man of the hour...iow, the new news.
#51. To: angle (#47)
#52. To: ..., Cynicom, all (#44)
And the $200 million dollars plus "donated" to Obummer has come from WHERE?????
#53. To: angle (#50)
Dog and pony show. PLUS the added bonus of inflaming race relations.
#54. To: Cynicom (#34)
Well, the reason is not stupidity, ignorance nor lack of programmed education.
Lord Acton
#55. To: Cynicom (#13)
There is like info coming out about McKooKs reverend
#56. To: Cynicom (#15)
#57. To: lodwick (#52)
BHO's people say that the donations still 'average' $96 a pop, even with the recent corporate funding.
#58. To: Red Jones (#16)
This story above is from New York Post.
#59. To: lodwick, jethro tull.peppa (#52)
#60. To: Cynicom (#48)
They do support the tax system rather well however, to provide for all the goodies handed out by the government.
#61. To: ..., all (#57)
#62. To: DeaconBenjamin (#55)
He attends church?
#63. To: Cynicom (#59)
The Nixons and Eisenhowers all gave the full limit, the very same people that supported George Bush four years ago. It seems to me Obama should return that money.
#64. To: Jethro Tull, *Obama 2008* (#0)
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#65. To: Cynicom (#25)
Obummer is USEFUL and EXPENDABLE.
#66. To: Cynicom (#59)
#67. To: Cynicom (#59)
The Nixons and Eisenhowers all gave the full limit, the very same people that supported George Bush four years ago. It seems to me Obama should return that money.
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