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Title: An Open Letter to the Obamophobes
Source: Me
URL Source: [None]
Published: May 4, 2008
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2008-05-04 19:22:53 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 11989
Comments: 154

I keep hearing from a number of thoughtful and well-meaning members of this forum statements such as this one: "most Os have yet to put together a rational argument for his candidacy, save white guilt." I am not going to comment on the honesty of the charge but I am going to address it. It should settle the issue definitively and it should turn all rational and America-loving Obamophobes into enthusiastic supporters of Dr. Barack.


My friend, the rationale has been provided to you, more than once: the alternatives to Dr. O are either Hillary or McCain. We can hardly afford one of the 2 in the White House.

If you (and it's a generic 'you') insist on being so intellectually lazy or derelict as to being unable or unwilling to see any difference between the three of them, that's the way you see things or rather imagine them and I am unable to cure or even treat your intellectual laziness or dereliction. I shall point out to you that even Dr. Paul saw a difference between the 3 and expressed a preference for Dr. Obama but you showed extreme obtuseness, dogmatism, lack of imagination and an inability to accept facts on a recent thread discussing that topic.

Some of you or rather all of you (still that generic 'you') keep throwing the "there's not one dime worth of difference between the three" argument - never backed with facts of any kind - to which I reply: remove the dogmatic blinders and look around. Yes, Dr. O is a bit of a socialist because he is a Democrat but, remember, presidents don't get to appropriate one dime, it's the congress that appropriates funds and there will be no expansion of socialism unless the congress funds it. However, presidents do have the power to bring our troops back home and avoid wasting trillions on ruinous military adventures. It is likely that Dr. O would ease our foreign wars burden if elected president, even Dr. Paul admits it.

So, help save America. Help Obama defeat Hillary and politically slay the odious McCain so that the American dreams don't die yet. There's trillions of dollars worth of difference between them. And, if you are concerned about socialist spending, help elect fiscally conservative reps and senators.


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#9. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Some of you or rather all of you (still that generic 'you') keep throwing the "there's not one dime worth of difference between the three" argument - never backed with facts of any kind - to which I reply: remove the dogmatic blinders and look around.

Renewing American Leadership

Explain to me how the above differs from the neo-con agenda.

America has made her choice. Ineffective action over concrete results so that people can delude themselves into thinking they are making a difference without having to put any real effort into it.

Peace?

As the Germans said: "Enjoy the war. The peace will be terrible."

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-05-04   19:56:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#9)

Renewing American Leadership

Explain to me how the above differs from the neo-con agenda.

You closed your post of Renewing ... with your own little "summary", beginning as follows:

Three points of interest:

1. Obama says that they hate us for our freedoms.

2. In a round about way he accuses Al-CIA-duh of being bitter and clinging to guns and Allah because they hate the US. Decades of US intervention in the ME had nothing to do with it!

Would you kindly cut and paste those words form Obama's speech, unedited or changed in any way, or, for that matter, whatever it was he said to lead you to such irresponsible accusations.

Thank you.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-04   22:09:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: iconoclast (#61)

1. Obama says that they hate us for our freedoms.

"A crucial debate is occurring within Islam. Some believe in a future of peace, tolerance, development, and democratization. Others embrace a rigid and violent intolerance of personal liberty and the world at large."

This sounds like something your average FReeker would post.

2. In a round about way he accuses Al-CIA-duh of being bitter and clinging to guns and Allah because they hate the US. Decades of US intervention in the ME had nothing to do with it!

" This century's threats are at least as dangerous as and in some ways more complex than those we have confronted in the past. They come from weapons that can kill on a mass scale and from global terrorists who respond to alienation or perceived injustice with murderous nihilism."

Remember, the half century of the US mucking about in the middle east is all in your head. You just think you're being bombed because you hate immigrants.

I'll throw in #3 for fun.

3. Unpopular and preemptive war is okay so long as you mean well and think about it really hard before dropping the bombs. Bombs filled with the love of Saint Obama.

"I will not hesitate to use force, unilaterally if necessary, to protect the American people or our vital interests whenever we are attacked or imminently threatened."

If he starts talking about smoking guns and waving a tube of faux-anthrax around, I'm heading for the nearest air raid shelter.

And the quote that makes me scream "my brain is on fire!"

" We must also consider using military force in circumstances beyond self-defense in order to provide for the common security that underpins global stability..."

I don't know if I should laugh or cry anymore. This entire pointless drama would make for grade A entertainment if not for the innocent people dieing every day.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-05-04   22:37:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#72)

Thank you.

I welcome all readers here to compare Obama's words to the wacky/tragic experience of the last eight Bush years and his witless sound bites.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-05   7:22:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: iconoclast (#79)

I see Obama got another vote of support......

Nigeria oil rebels considering Obama truce appeal

Rebels who have stepped up attacks on Nigeria's oil industry in the last month said on Sunday they were considering a ceasefire appeal by United States presidential hopeful Barack Obama.

The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (Mend) has launched five attacks on oil facilities in the Niger Delta since it resumed a campaign of violence in April, forcing Royal Dutch Shell to shut more than 164 000 barrels of oil per day (bpd).

www.mg.co.za/articlepage...._africa/&articleid=338442

robnoel  posted on  2008-05-05   8:39:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: robnoel (#84)

Nigeria oil rebels considering Obama truce appeal

It is a preview of the kind of conciliation and diplomacy that we can look forward to under an Obama administration.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-05   9:43:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: iconoclast (#90)

Good for spin bad for image...again!....would have a argument but when ones public support comes solely from various marxists and other fellow travelers I have to say the following....if it walks like a duck squawks like a duck guess what?....once again this is not to say the other two choices are any less of a duck

robnoel  posted on  2008-05-05   9:59:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: robnoel (#93)

....if it walks like a duck squawks like a duck guess what?....once again this is not to say the other two choices are any less of a duck

The other two "ducks" are bomb crazy.

Whence comes this bomb craziness .... which apparently has also affected you?

What a squandering we have done with the "peace dividend" granted us by Ron the First.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-05   11:33:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: iconoclast (#95)

which apparently has also affected you?

Unlike many I have a microphone and have been on record as far back as the first Iraq war being opposed to wars in far away places....good try no cigar

robnoel  posted on  2008-05-05   13:10:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: robnoel (#101)

Unlike many I have a microphone and have been on record as far back as the first Iraq war being opposed to wars in far away places

Same here, only it goes back to Korea.

My opinion is congruent with Obama's ... we both oppose "dumb wars" ... and we both make an exception with regard to Osama.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-05   13:17:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#109. To: iconoclast (#104)

Well if you a student of war-fare than you know there have not been any "just wars" in the past century....I could make a exception for the Boer War

robnoel  posted on  2008-05-05 13:28:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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