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Title: An Open Letter to the Obamophobes
Source: Me
URL Source: [None]
Published: May 4, 2008
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2008-05-04 19:22:53 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 8838
Comments: 154

I keep hearing from a number of thoughtful and well-meaning members of this forum statements such as this one: "most Os have yet to put together a rational argument for his candidacy, save white guilt." I am not going to comment on the honesty of the charge but I am going to address it. It should settle the issue definitively and it should turn all rational and America-loving Obamophobes into enthusiastic supporters of Dr. Barack.


My friend, the rationale has been provided to you, more than once: the alternatives to Dr. O are either Hillary or McCain. We can hardly afford one of the 2 in the White House.

If you (and it's a generic 'you') insist on being so intellectually lazy or derelict as to being unable or unwilling to see any difference between the three of them, that's the way you see things or rather imagine them and I am unable to cure or even treat your intellectual laziness or dereliction. I shall point out to you that even Dr. Paul saw a difference between the 3 and expressed a preference for Dr. Obama but you showed extreme obtuseness, dogmatism, lack of imagination and an inability to accept facts on a recent thread discussing that topic.

Some of you or rather all of you (still that generic 'you') keep throwing the "there's not one dime worth of difference between the three" argument - never backed with facts of any kind - to which I reply: remove the dogmatic blinders and look around. Yes, Dr. O is a bit of a socialist because he is a Democrat but, remember, presidents don't get to appropriate one dime, it's the congress that appropriates funds and there will be no expansion of socialism unless the congress funds it. However, presidents do have the power to bring our troops back home and avoid wasting trillions on ruinous military adventures. It is likely that Dr. O would ease our foreign wars burden if elected president, even Dr. Paul admits it.

So, help save America. Help Obama defeat Hillary and politically slay the odious McCain so that the American dreams don't die yet. There's trillions of dollars worth of difference between them. And, if you are concerned about socialist spending, help elect fiscally conservative reps and senators.


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#94. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-05-05   11:13:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: ghostdogtxn, a vast rightwing conspirator, *Obama 2008 (#94)

Well, to play devil's advocate here for a minute, hasn't Obama been calling for an expanded role in Afghanistan? What good is swapping one foreign policy quagmire for another? Sure, "obliterate them" Hillary is an obscenity; and so is "bomb bomb" McCain, but is "let's bomb Pakistan" Obomba any better?

Ghost, you are no better an advocate for the devil than you are for Obama. Obama has clearly stated that he desires to root out bin Laden and rid the world of him. That was our nation's stance way back in '02 ... one that was damn nearly supported by our all of our fellow citizens and just about the entire civilized world!

I for one still support it.

I speak as one who has often stated the position that of the 3 bad candidates left "in the running", Obama is the least bad. I still believe that, a LITTLE BIT,

For cysakes ghost, please CEASE such "support".

With friends like you, who needs enemies?

Go ahead .... join the "vote for Aaron Burr" camp, or whoever ... you're not opposing the Obamaphobes, you're tossing them raw meat every day.

In this instance, the Decider is finally on to something ... you're either for us or against us.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-05   13:00:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: iconoclast (#98)

I myself don't support this 'war on terror'. And when Obama voices support for it, then I don't like him for it. The FBI said there is no evidence agaisnt Bin Laden in the september 11 events. the whole war on terror is a wild goose chase where the only real goal is more war.

We don't have any good choices, so if we make a choice that someone else says is bad, then what difference does it make?

If you're against terrorism, then the first thing to do about it is to have a real investigation of september 11 events. I think the people who directed that there be no response by the USAF to the hijackings should be jailed for incompetence if not for terrorism. this is where we need to start.

and who was it that allowed the bombs to be planted in those 3 buildings. They need to be arrested too for incompetence if not for terrorism.

this is how you fight terrorism, by directly confronting those responsible for it and punishing them. But you can't do that by just overthrowing the Afghan government. The Afghan government did not attack us. We gave aid to the afghan government even, the last aid check we gave them was in August of 2001. Who were the senators & congressmen who approved that aid check to the Taliban? They should be voted out long long long before we even consider war against them. and we didn't vote them out.

What about the FBI undercover agent who made the bomb used in the 1993 bombing of the parking garage at the WTC? That individual was following orders, but who gave him those orders and who set this priority? That individual should be jailed.

So, since Obama doesn't care about who the culprits are and punishing them, he wants to go on this wild-goose chase in Afghanistan/Pakistan, etc., then I say that Obama is soft on terror. same with Clinton & McCain.

Red Jones  posted on  2008-05-05   13:27:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Red Jones, iconoclast (#108)

the whole war on terror is a wild goose chase where the only real goal is more war.

Middle East hegemony and corporate profits just might be a real goals. They don't war just for war's sake, but to use it to achieve one or more real goals.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-05-05   22:59:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#137. To: nolu_chan, Red Jones (#135)

Middle East hegemony and corporate profits just might be a real goals.

Real but bogus.

But, I just can't let go of revenge for invasion.

Probably just the Irish in me.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-05-06 09:31:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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