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Title: Attention 4um Members
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Published: May 4, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-05-04 22:40:24 by christine
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Views: 18560
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I have to be honest, I'm completely distressed at what's happened to this forum. The fighting and the distrust between those for and those against Obama has gotten to the point where, in my opinion, it's destroying the forum. What's the point of having an open free speech venue when everyone is bozo'ing everyone else? When I read my mission statement and what Freedom4um was created to be, I don't even recognize the place anymore. There will be changes made in the near future as I decide what is best for the continued growth of this forum.
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#136. To: FOH (#127)
Hang in FOH. They've run out of Red Books.
(Be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves)
And I'll leave it at that. Why don't you Che Ophiles go start your own forum and have a World Utopian good time...a gun free zone ! "FREE" healthcare, soak the rich ($100,000+/yr), etc.
I think the real solution, and the simple solution, it to put the policy at the top of the PM page in big red blinking letters. I would also add the suggestion that people could forward an email address to an anonymous hotmail account if they wanted to talk in private.
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Name the forum, and that's my history. Yes, I mean it.
Red books or Red Shields ?? Or both...That Soros plays both sides like this.
I know the feeling. Some food is just too ugly to eat with glasses on too, which can really compound the situation. ;-)
And here is the reason why half the participating 4um has you on Bozo. Now be a good tool and call them all commie Marxists. Maybe if you are just hateful enough, and just vapid enough and maybe if you make a big enough ass out of yourself, then they will start liking you and listen to you. Is that your plan? Seems to be. Everyone except you is a commie, a Marxist or a collectivist. Got it. And do you know how people react to you? Yawn ... another bitter, inarticulate ex-freeper who uses insults in an attempt to shut down discussion he can't refute. All in all, yur a shitty advocate. No humor. No personality. No rational argument. Just knuckle dragging insults - and an apparent confusion as to why have the world puts you on bozo. Shall I explain why they do that?
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Thank you, robin :) Likewise.
(Be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves)
Hi Star, Yes, long time. I do hope you are well. I thank you for your comments. Neil
Did you pass your pop corn consumption by the ELF collective, to ensure that it's earth friendly?
I would imagine if you wanted to subscribe to Red Book Magazine they will always have a copy to send you. Though frankly, you strike me as more a Cosmopolitan reader sort of guy.
There was a disclaimer on the package: No worms were harmed in the creation of this 100% organic popping corn product...
Tagline space for rent.
Now be a good tool and call them all commie Marxists. Maybe if you are just hateful enough, and just vapid enough and maybe if you make a big enough ass out of yourself, then they will start liking you and listen to you. (Yur a shitty advocate.) Let's get something clear, again. I could give 2 freaking rips what ANY of you Liberal/Commie-Fascist/Progressive/OWMs think ! If I'm not on your bozo, I'm not trying hard enough !! I will mock you little deviants endlessly and remind you what anti-American mutants you are...every turn. The best part of ALL of this is that the lines are clearly marked. You know who you are and the rest of us all know what you are...
Actually with you on the wacky left, when I say red book, it's about Mao, not Cosmo.
Who thought that we'd be here in May 2008 looking at these 3 candidates? And still stuck in Iraq? - not me. Well maybe Iraq doesn't surprise me.
"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
I didn't know those folks were a collective. Actually, they are more a cellular movement that ruins everything they touch. A collective is more a type of business, and they are certainly not that. And this is something I have always been very happy to point out to anyone interested in hearing, especially them. ;-D
No, your problem is something else entirely. I guess this is an appropriate time to stop asking why you posted this accusation on this thread as you're obviously refusing to do so, and start asking instead why you are refusing to do so. You could say "Well, I don't have any proof but I thought you were because...." and then fill in the blank. But you can't do that. The answer is you did it to harm the forum. I cannot think of a more plausible reason. You are here to hurt the forum. You are a fraud.
OOoooooh. Hopping mad and jumping up and down. Do you know why half the forum has you on bozo? It's because they don't give a shit for your bitter freeper crap. And do you know why Jim banned you? It's because the freepers don't give a shit for your bitter, ignorant crap either. Yawn. Why don't you call me when you grow enough of a brain to do something besides fling feces. This idiotic name calling, which is all you are capable of, is the reason you guys are now known as the 27%.
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Ok,,,,,but where do ELF freaks dispose of the dung associated with a good meal like popped maize? I'm guessing in each others pockets.
Maybe when you sign up you should indicate whether you're serious or not, and then the serious members won't see the number!
Again, dotty, the ones that have me on bozo are the same people that should have me on bozo. I won a bunch of you peckerwoods over for Ron Paul's campaign and it was akin to inviting your enemy in for some personal destruction. GO EFF YOURSELF small time !!
Peppa's question NEVER would have arisen if it weren't for your space cadet gun comment. That hurt the forum, and you refuse to acknowledge it.
People who do that ought to be banned. That's the proper solution for those people and I believe is properly exercised here.
Not being a WalMart or Cosco shopper, and always willing to blast the Chinese for Tibet and their overall repressiveness and arrogance of power, I am not someone they would gladly give a token of the 'Great Leap Forward' cultural revolution to. I mean, the Revolutionary Communist Party doesn't even try to give me copies of the Revolutionary Worker paper anymore. So if the home grown Maoists don't like me, I'm sure the Chinese ones don't either. ;-D
My, you can talk like a Republican. Why don't you call me when you grow up and learn how to make a rational argument? Now go play. The adults are talking here - and you sound like a hostile, bitter, freeper moron.
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Not always.
"To destroy a people you must first sever their roots." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
A perfect example of this is FOH with his silly name calling (see above). But I disagree that he should be banned. Actually, I think the type of hostile ignorance he bleeds all over the forum is one of the reasons the GOP is now in the toilet. People don't think of Bush when they think of the GOP. That's too abstract for them. They think of moronic, childish bullies like FOH, i.e., their neighbor or co-worker.
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Actually ELF consists of a few pocked marked, suburban yuppies playing weekend radical. Trust me, if a real man had damage done to their property by one of these asshats, the last thing wooden he'd remember is a cocobolo night stick across his ripe melon.
So is it you opinion that if you are just stupid enough, and just hostile enough, and just bitter enough and just insulting enough, then you can intimidate us into silence? I'd be curious for an honest answer. You certainly don't seem capable of making an adult argument to support your view point. So I am wondering what you are doing here?
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If I saw one in action first, you'd have to take a number. My grudge against them is considerably more personal in nature then yours'. ;-)
i've pretty much been a hands off moderator and have had the philosophy of letting members fight it out amongst themselves. i respect the fact that we're all adults here and i am not at all an authoritarian. further, i've never liked other forum's owners and moderators deciding what is civil and what is not and then treating their members like they're naughty children. but, you certainly make a valid point. i am hoping that others will see this and exercise self control and restraint with the personal attacks so that i won't have to change my way of being. i will, however, get tough if i have to. ;) thank you for your comments. i appreciate them and it's very nice to see you again.
ooooh, spank me baby!
Tagline space for rent.
Yep. You weren't in on the last fiasco. Most of the original people here simply don't consider PMs to be secure as a matter of course. A lot of people had got burned by this at an old site. And as was said before, the accusation that someone was peeking at PMs was one of the reasons for the "No Security Promised Here" policy. If you can't defend against the charge that you are peeking, and you can't, then you just don't promise security - and then you don't have to defend against the charge. The original people here did not assume privacy in the PMs, but maybe the new people do. So maybe it would be a good idea to make the policy a little more plain. Maybe something like a check box on the sign up saying "I read the PM policy and I know there is no promise of security" or something like that.
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Does it have to be Christine? I'm sort of into that stuff you know.
It's not terrorism when the Israelis do it.
Ohhhhh..... really. I guess Peppa can't say this herself so she's hired a lawyer. So.... it seems that the perfectly logical basis for my accuser's claim that I read other's Pmail is because we disagree on what the 2nd Amendment means. ... and that it was perfectly reasonable to bring that up on this thread because it delves quite deeply into the 2nd Amendment. Peppa, are you signing your name to that?
How silly of me not to ping you!
You know, we are all gluttons for whips and chains to a degee, or we would not be in these virtual joints. You'd have to lock many of us for a week in a cell with a drag dressed Rudy to really get many of us to squeal like a pig. If anything, being in forums so long is the worst enemy to the endeavour of sustaining participation in a virtual community. Doing real activism in one's community is always much more fun and engaging, and anyone posting online should always strive to never ever forget that.
Their "moderation" is really just an ego trip. The bias and manipulation is palpable. So, agreed, there are no examples I can think of to commend. It may not be as tough as you imagine, and you'll get 80% of the benefit with banning the worst 20%. I believe Pingunite has obscenity filters that could be enabled - that automates a lot of the trivia mommyadmin. Leaving you free to make a judgement call (as you've done in the past) to identify who is here to discuss (or entertain) versus who is looking to start flame wars. Thank you. Condolences on the food fight :)
(Be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves)
That's why I bozo'd him. He does NOT constructively contribute to the forum. In his case I don't think banning is out of order. That's not my call, it's just my opinion. And I'm not even asking he be banned as to merely ask places a burden on the site owner. I'm satisfied banning him from my world via bozo.
Now THAT's funny!
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#137. To: Elliott Jackalope (#126)
I do sometimes boil over and pour out a lot of profane invective when I'm especially angry about something.
IIRC, I've been known to boil over myself a time or two. I'll do my best to keep the profanity in check from now on. No promises, mind you. But, I'll try.
No promises needed, at least not to me, and I find that the more I try to bridle my keyboard, the easier that becomes.
#138. To: Pinguinite (#135)
If you really mean that, I understand.
#139. To: Pinguinite (#132)
#140. To: Pinguinite (#135)
#141. To: Jethro Tull (#136)
#142. To: Critter (#133)
"I'm getting so old, I need spectacles to see my popcorn."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#143. To: FOH (#134)
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And all they get anymore are you goofy collectivists outing yourselves and destroying 4um...
#144. To: robin (#111)
Good to see you!
#145. To: Starwind (#109)
#146. To: Ferret Mike (#129)
But you are always welcome to keep trying to do so. I always have plenty of pop corn on hand for such spectacles.
#147. To: Jethro Tull (#136)
"They've run out of Red Books."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#148. To: Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike (#146)
Did you pass your pop corn consumption by the ELF collective, to ensure that it's earth friendly?
#149. To: ... (#143)
And here is the reason why half the participating 4um has you on Bozo.
#150. To: Ferret Mike (#147)
#151. To: Starwind (#144)
#152. To: Jethro Tull (#146)
"Did you pass your pop corn consumption by the ELF collective, to ensure that it's earth friendly?"
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#153. To: Peppa (#113)
So, you know... it's not my problem.
#154. To: FOH (#149)
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I could give 2 freaking rips what ANY of you Liberal/Commie-Fascist/Progressive/OWMs think !
#155. To: Critter (#148)
No worms were harmed in the creation of this 100% organic popping corn product...
#156. To: Critter (#119)
I'm not a serious person, so I wanna know not only how many,
#157. To: ... (#154)
Do you know why half the forum has you on bozo?
#158. To: Pinguinite (#153)
The answer is you did it to harm the forum. I cannot think of a more plausible reason. You are here to hurt the forum. You are a fraud.
#159. To: ... (#124)
It's an alternate tactic for those who can't defend their position. They use the personal attacks to punish those who post well thought out opinions that they disagree with - but can't refute. Yukon, ALS and most freeper types resort to this.
#160. To: Jethro Tull (#150)
"Actually with you on the wacky left, when I say red book, it's about Mao, not Cosmo."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#161. To: FOH (#157)
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GO EFF YOURSELF small time !!
#162. To: Pinguinite (#159)
#163. To: Pinguinite (#159)
People who do that ought to be banned. That's the proper solution for those people and I believe is properly exercised here.
#164. To: Ferret Mike (#152)
Actually, they are more a cellular movement that ruins everything they touch.
#165. To: FOH (#157)
#166. To: Jethro Tull (#164)
"Actually ELF consists of a few pocked marked, suburban yuppies playing weekend radical. Trust me, if a real man had damage done to their property by one of these asshats, the last thing wooden he'd remember is a cocobolo night stick across his ripe melon."
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#167. To: Starwind, ALL (#109)
b) I'll re-iterate my long held personal belief that the "acid" that eats away at this forum, as it has eaten away at other forums, is the incivility: the personal attacks, the vulgarities, etc. If someone can't make their point without swearing and attacking someone else personally, they really don't have a point worth discussing - they just have a vendetta. But that kind of constant barrage of incivility (from all sides, from any side) eats away at a forum. It drives away lurkers, it spams threads, and it smothers discussion. If you're in a mood to try something new, try banning (even temporarily after a warning or three), whomever in your opinion persists in vulgar personal attacks and who doesn't debate but just rants. Remove the uncivil, let the dust settle, see what that looks like.
#168. To: christine (#167)
i will, however, get tough if i have to. ;)
#169. To: Peppa (#107)
That is why the notice was put on the page. To make people aware of it.
#170. To: Critter (#168)
ooooh, spank me baby!
#171. To: Jethro Tull (#158)
Peppa's question NEVER would have arisen if it weren't for your space cadet gun comment. That hurt the forum, and you refuse to acknowledge it.
#172. To: Peppa (#171)
#173. To: Critter (#168)
"ooooh, spank me baby!"
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly." Robert F. Kennedy
#174. To: christine (#167)
further, i've never liked other forum's owners and moderators deciding what is civil and what is not and then treating their members like they're naughty children.
i will, however, get tough if i have to.
i appreciate them and it's very nice to see you again.
#175. To: ... (#163)
A perfect example of this is FOH with his silly name calling (see above).
#176. To: Critter (#168)
ooooh, spank me baby!
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