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Title: Attention 4um Members
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://none
Published: May 4, 2008
Author: me
Post Date: 2008-05-04 22:40:24 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 34660
Comments: 655

I have to be honest, I'm completely distressed at what's happened to this forum. The fighting and the distrust between those for and those against Obama has gotten to the point where, in my opinion, it's destroying the forum. What's the point of having an open free speech venue when everyone is bozo'ing everyone else?

When I read my mission statement and what Freedom4um was created to be, I don't even recognize the place anymore. There will be changes made in the near future as I decide what is best for the continued growth of this forum.

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#109. To: christine, Pingunite (#0)

Long time, no post :)

I have no dog in this hunt, but FWIW, three points:

a) the bozo filter is a valuable tool. I personally don't use it as I wish to know what is being said. But many posters whom I respect greatly and whom I think are an asset to your forum, benefit from their use of the bozo filter.

b) I'll re-iterate my long held personal belief that the "acid" that eats away at this forum, as it has eaten away at other forums, is the incivility: the personal attacks, the vulgarities, etc. If someone can't make their point without swearing and attacking someone else personally, they really don't have a point worth discussing - they just have a vendetta. But that kind of constant barrage of incivility (from all sides, from any side) eats away at a forum. It drives away lurkers, it spams threads, and it smothers discussion. If you're in a mood to try something new, try banning (even temporarily after a warning or three), whomever in your opinion persists in vulgar personal attacks and who doesn't debate but just rants. Remove the uncivil, let the dust settle, see what that looks like.

c) I don't believe for one second that Neil McIver has ever has read PM's, aside from any sent to him or any involved in software/database problems. Regardless, should he need to, Neil McIver is one of the few people I would trust to read my PM's. If I had a forum I wouldn't hesitate to give Neil the keys. The guy is as honest, trustworthy, and transparent as you'll ever find.

Otherwise, best wishes to you and all.

Starwind  posted on  2008-05-05   0:33:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Starwind (#109)

I'll re-iterate my long held personal belief that the "acid" that eats away at this forum, as it has eaten away at other forums, is the incivility: the personal attacks, the vulgarities, etc.

It's an alternate tactic for those who can't defend their position. They use the personal attacks to punish those who post well thought out opinions that they disagree with - but can't refute. Yukon, ALS and most freeper types resort to this.

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#159. To: ... (#124)

It's an alternate tactic for those who can't defend their position. They use the personal attacks to punish those who post well thought out opinions that they disagree with - but can't refute. Yukon, ALS and most freeper types resort to this.

People who do that ought to be banned. That's the proper solution for those people and I believe is properly exercised here.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-05   1:08:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Pinguinite (#159)

People who do that ought to be banned. That's the proper solution for those people and I believe is properly exercised here.

A perfect example of this is FOH with his silly name calling (see above).

But I disagree that he should be banned. Actually, I think the type of hostile ignorance he bleeds all over the forum is one of the reasons the GOP is now in the toilet. People don't think of Bush when they think of the GOP. That's too abstract for them. They think of moronic, childish bullies like FOH, i.e., their neighbor or co-worker.

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#175. To: ... (#163)

A perfect example of this is FOH with his silly name calling (see above).

That's why I bozo'd him. He does NOT constructively contribute to the forum. In his case I don't think banning is out of order. That's not my call, it's just my opinion. And I'm not even asking he be banned as to merely ask places a burden on the site owner. I'm satisfied banning him from my world via bozo.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-05-05   1:35:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Pinguinite, christine, Jethro Tull (#175)

That's why I bozo'd him. He does NOT constructively contribute to the forum. In his case I don't think banning is out of order. That's not my call, it's just my opinion. And I'm not even asking he be banned as to merely ask places a burden on the site owner. I'm satisfied banning him from my world via bozo.

You offered to buy out Goldi-Witch over Ron Paul (before the body snatchers), why don't you tell Christine what it will cost US to buy your sorry ass out -and replace you- there Mr. Unaccountable?

Christine, plz copy this to sh#t4brains down in Ecuador...he has me on filter.

FOH  posted on  2008-05-05   1:41:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: FOH (#177) (Edited)

He has you on bozo dunce. He can't see you silly shit.

Neil, you can't see this, but FOH is wondering where Trace21231 is tonight.

Why don't you call him a Marxist? That ought to fix him. (Or at least it will give us something to chortle over.)

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#180. To: ... (#178)

He has you on bozo dunce. He can't see you silly shit.

Neil, you can't see this, but FOH is wondering where Trace21231 is tonight.

Why don't you call him a Marxist? That ought to fix him. (Or at least it will give us something to chortle over.)

I pinged the 4um webmaster and two grown ups, I did not ping the kiddie table...

FOH  posted on  2008-05-05   1:49:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#185. To: FOH (#180) (Edited)

I pinged the 4um webmaster and two grown ups,

And I responded. And I pointed out that you were again acting like a silly child.

Here is a suggestion: Turn off the computer. Sit quietly for a while and try to come up with something besides your idiotic name calling. That's how adults behave.

And if you acted like an adult, people might then stop taunting you.

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